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    Just did sternum chin ups 10 minutes ago...WOWWW...

    Heard about this exercise on T-nation and it seems pretty easy from what I read.(Oh well...)

    So I decided to try it out as part of my "grease the groove" chin up routine.Usually I perform 6 sets of 6 non to failure reps for standard chins.I set myself a target of 4 sets of 6 reps for sternum chins.

    All in all,this chin variant is a whole new ball.I could feel this movement is a lot different and more taxing in the first 3 reps of my 1st set.I had to terminate the set at rep 5 because I know rep 6,if executed,would be to utter failure.To cut a long story,I only managed to do 3 sets of 5,5,4.Yes,I reached utter failure at Rep 4 in Set 3 and indeedthis rep was not performed strictly as my chest barely touched the bar.

    So much for my target of 4 sets of 6!

    Way to go sternum chins!


    This is the link to the T-nation articles on back training.

    http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=278back2
    http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....le=body_85back
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    http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459477&pageNo=0

    I was shocked when I didn't see exercises like the deadlift, bent-over, t-bar row, and kneeling db row on the list. My brother has always believed that you could develop an impressive upper back with a back routine of various pull-ups and chin-ups. He may not have the thickness I have but his overall development is more impressive. This article is great because it really gets me thinking.
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    Originally Posted by papi93
    http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459477&pageNo=0

    I was shocked when I didn't see exercises like the deadlift, bent-over, t-bar row, and kneeling db row on the list. My brother has always believed that you could develop an impressive upper back with a back routine of various pull-ups and chin-ups. He may not have the thickness I have but his overall development is more impressive. This article is great because it really gets me thinking.
    I think there is no clear definition between "back width" and "back density" exercises.If you increase your poundage on the row,your back as a whole becomes bigger and hence it would look wider also.
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    Originally Posted by Doenitz79
    I think there is no clear definition between "back width" and "back density" exercises.If you increase your poundage on the row,your back as a whole becomes bigger and hence it would look wider also.
    Do you incorporate horizontal pulling movements (rows, etc.) or just vertical pulling movements (pullups, etc.)?
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    Originally Posted by papi93
    Do you incorporate horizontal pulling movements (rows, etc.) or just vertical pulling movements (pullups, etc.)?
    I do rows in the gym.(3 times a week)

    I do vertical pulling movements in the fitness corner near my place(4 times a week)

    non to failure of course.

    used to do heavy rackpulls,but have stopped doing 'em coz my traps are overpowering my delts...
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    Originally Posted by Doenitz79
    I do rows in the gym.(3 times a week)

    I do vertical pulling movements in the fitness corner near my place(4 times a week)

    non to failure of course.
    I don't think I ever seen anyone do weighted sternum chinups. You couldn't use a chin belt but I imagine you could use a weight vest.
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    Originally Posted by papi93
    I don't think I ever seen anyone do weighted sternum chinups.
    Now you have unwittingly set a target for me....Hehe.
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    Originally Posted by Doenitz79
    Now you have unwittingly set a target for me....Hehe.
    Now that is an exercise worthy of a video!
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    Originally Posted by papi93
    Now that is an exercise worthy of a video!
    I did I can do 2 strict reps with a 10kg(22lb) weight right now.
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    uh..thats how I always did my chins..I didn't know they were an exercise with a name of its own and was thinking that I was doing chins with bad form. lol well I'm glad I was doing something right the whole time after all.
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    Originally Posted by Doenitz79
    I did I can do 2 strict reps with a 10kg(22lb) weight right now.
    Do you know how to link the video here?
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    Originally Posted by papi93
    Do you know how to link the video here?
    I don't have a chinning bar and 10kg dumbbell with me right now...Haha

    By the way,what would be a decent number for sternum BW only chins?
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    Originally Posted by Doenitz79
    I don't have a chinning bar and 10kg dumbbell with me right now...Haha

    By the way,what would be a decent number for sternum BW only chins?
    Not sure. I don't remember reading anything on that subject. Sorry about that.
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    Are you supposed to aim for touching your sternum to the bar with this?
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    Are you supposed to aim for touching your sternum to the bar with this?
    Yes you are.
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    Sounds hard. I'll have to try it. Hope I don't look like DW trying
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    Originally Posted by papi93
    http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459477&pageNo=0

    I was shocked when I didn't see exercises like the deadlift, bent-over, t-bar row, and kneeling db row on the list.
    The example with Dave Tate and Louie Simmons having huge backs due to squatting a lot...

    DEADLIFTS, anyone?
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    Originally Posted by aiwass
    The example with Dave Tate and Louie Simmons having huge backs due to squatting a lot...

    DEADLIFTS, anyone?
    I'm confused. What do you mean? Sorry about that.
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    Now I feel DOMS in my traps,mid back and (surprise surprise) my abs.I guess it is because I tensed them a lot last night.
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    Originally Posted by papi93
    I'm confused. What do you mean? Sorry about that.
    I just meant it was kind of a faulty argument. They use powerlifters as an example of people getting massive backs from heavy squatting. However, said powerlifters can probably attribute most of their back development to deadlifts.
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    Originally Posted by aiwass
    I just meant it was kind of a faulty argument. They use powerlifters as an example of people getting massive backs from heavy squatting. However, said powerlifters can probably attribute most of their back development to deadlifts.
    Ok, I understand now. Thanks for clarifying.
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    I don't like them. I think that most people, when approaching failure, tend to hyperextend their backs in order to help with the pull. If you want to do a row, do a row. If you want to do a pull up, do a pull up. But i don't see why you'd have to try to do both in one exercise. Just my opinion of course.

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    I think it's a very good exercise. I do them whenever I do pullups really, I do about 3x10 of it.

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    Originally Posted by md3sign
    Sounds hard. I'll have to try it. Hope I don't look like DW trying
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    Still Shruggin, you must have a mental disorder if you hate drunk chicks. They are the best. However, you also hate James Blunt so that kinda makes up for it.
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    They dont deadlift very often only 2-3 weeks out from a meet, they do however use GM's
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    Originally Posted by Still_Shruggin
    Oh yeah, nothing like dirty, used goods to make my day.

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