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    TAMOXIFEN CITRATE liquid, understanding doses

    I am going to be running the TAMOXIFEN CITRATE liquid for my pct at

    60mg day1
    40 2 weeks
    20 2weeks

    I have the liquid version vial which is 20mg per ML. The whole vial is 60 ml.

    So how does this work? I havent opened the vial or anything but is each full squirt a ml?

    How many ML to get 60 mg, 40mg,20mg? Is there a ratio i should know?

    I also have inhibit e which i think is a rebound xt copy, how should i use this whith the TAMOXIFEN CITRATE?
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    First off, go to the drug store and get a graduated dropper or syringe (they sell them there for cough syrups and such, so there's no reason to feel wierd about it), something with the ml markings on the sides. Every ml of solution contains 20mgs of TC, so 3ml of solution equals 60mgs of TC. Get it? It's pretty easy if you just step back and look at it. There was a big controversy a number of months ago about the companies not aloowing for the offset of the substance itself in the graduations, but the difference is so small that it really doesn't matter.
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    P.S. - Just in case you aren't aware: a cc and a ml are the same.
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    with tamoxifen citrate i believe thats there is only 14mg of actual "nolva" per ml. its 20mg of tamoxifen but only 14 mg of the active. so 3ml would be 42mg of nolva. someone correct me if im wrong here.
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    Hey thanks a lot GG, just want to make sure everything is ok before i start. Any help on the inhibit e and reduce xt?
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    Originally Posted by punksurfer024
    with tamoxifen citrate i believe thats there is only 14mg of actual "nolva" per ml. its 20mg of tamoxifen but only 14 mg of the active. so 3ml would be 42mg of nolva. someone correct me if im wrong here.

    See this is what i am talking about here.
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    Originally Posted by punksurfer024
    with tamoxifen citrate i believe thats there is only 14mg of actual "nolva" per ml. its 20mg of tamoxifen but only 14 mg of the active. so 3ml would be 42mg of nolva. someone correct me if im wrong here.
    tamoxifen citrate is 2/3 tamoxifen and 1/3 citrate...many "research chemical" companies compensate for the weight of the citrate in the dosage...
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    Originally Posted by NATHAN518
    tamoxifen citrate is 2/3 tamoxifen and 1/3 citrate...many "research chemical" companies compensate for the weight of the citrate in the dosage...
    Really? I thought otherwise. I remember IBE saying that theres does indeed take 1.5ml to equal 20mg. I believe the pill version is compensated though.
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    Originally Posted by spoonman
    Really? I thought otherwise. I remember IBE saying that theres does indeed take 1.5ml to equal 20mg. I believe the pill version is compensated though.
    this was my understanding as well. and the 2/3 tamoxifen is approximatly 14mg/ml if rated at 20mg/ml
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    IBE is what i have so that would be really cool if you guys could some how clarify
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    IBE 1ml=20mg of "nolva". The conversion is already figured in. IBE has a forum on AM where reps have confirmed this.

    Also, IBE also has their own forum where this can be verified as well.
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    I was unaware of this but apparently they reformulated it so that it 1ml does equal 20mg. Im pretty sure i have the old version though.
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    Originally Posted by Viking22
    IBE 1ml=20mg of "nolva". The conversion is already figured in. IBE has a forum on AM where reps have confirmed this.

    Also, IBE also has their own forum where this can be verified as well.
    yes, as i said, many companies make the conversion for you...IBE does...
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    Nice!

    so can you guys help me on the other 2 pct's, is it worth using them along with the Nolva?
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    My upcoming PCT for a superdrol cycle will be Nolva for 3 weeks running inverse to Restore by ****

    Week 1: Nolva 40mg / 1 cap restore
    Week2: Nolva 20mg / 2 caps restore
    Week 3: Nolva 10mg / 3 caps restore
    Week 4: 3 caps restore

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    so what do you think the theory is by ramping the restore up instead of down?
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    Well the Nolva is my main means of getting my HPTa restarted. Once its kicked back up, the 6-bromo in the Restore will elevate my test. It also has ingredients to control prolactin/cortisol and the main reason I am doing it that way is because of the talk over at AM about running an AI inverse to a SERM for PCT. People have been having great success with it.
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    But then you will be running 75 mgs of restore and then just stop? Will that not cause some sort of effect?
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    But then you will be running 75 mgs of restore and then just stop? Will that not cause some sort of effect?
    There has been substantial debate over ramping up and ramping down with regard to PCT supplements. Although most of the debate concerns an ATD such as Rebound XT or Novadex XT. The effects that people have noticed when ramping up are typically estrogen rebound resulting in light cases of gyno. I personally experienced this after a SD cycle about 1 year ago. I resumed taking Nolva for 3 weeks and the rebound subsided. Honestly, I think it is more about your personal sensitivity to these chemicals as there are people who have run a cycles without any PCT and never experience any estrogen related sides. I would hardly recommend trying this but I think it speaks to fact that everyones bodies react differently. For my last cycle (Pheraplex/Prostanozol), I ditched the ATD and just ran Nolva and Retain as part of my PCT and have yet to see any estrogen rebound.
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    thats why i was under the impression of going down gradually with the nolva. It just makes sense, am i wrong?
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    Originally Posted by adelii
    thats why i was under the impression of going down gradually with the nolva. It just makes sense, am i wrong?
    That is correct. What I am doing is running an AI inverse to the SERM (Nolva). I may end up ramping down the Restore just in case. I dont think Rebound effect would happen but its good to be safe when your playing with your hormones.
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    could you give me an example of your pct?

    I was thinking

    60mg nolva first day
    40mg 1 week
    40mg 2nd week 3 caps AI
    30mg 3rd week 2 Caps AI
    20mg 4th week 1 cap AI
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    I'll be starting a pheraplex 3 weeker soon. My pct will include:

    Anabolic innovations Cycle Support through cycle and pct. This has all your hawthorne, NAC, Milk thistle, etc...

    Nolva:
    Week1 - 60 mg
    Week2 - 40 mg
    Week3 - 40 mg
    Week4 - 20 mg
    Week5 - 20 mg

    I'm also going to run:
    Diesel Test
    Lean Extreme / Sesamin to keep fat down during pct
    Xceed maybe not right away. Dependant on how bad back pumps are.

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    Originally Posted by adelii View Post
    I am going to be running the TAMOXIFEN CITRATE liquid for my pct at

    60mg day1
    40 2 weeks
    20 2weeks

    I have the liquid version vial which is 20mg per ML. The whole vial is 60 ml.

    So how does this work? I havent opened the vial or anything but is each full squirt a ml?

    How many ML to get 60 mg, 40mg,20mg? Is there a ratio i should know?

    I also have inhibit e which i think is a rebound xt copy, how should i use this whith the TAMOXIFEN CITRATE?

    Hey Guys ..I know this is a very old forum but...I am trying to track down some tamoxifen citrate myself and I have found a couple websites online...CAn anyone point out aomewhere I can get some peptides like this ..by the way I live in Canada somwhere that can ship here no problem?..If so I would appreciate it very much thanks guys!
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