I wish I was fat.

**Amris** · 09-01-2006, 06:26 AM

I haven't been able to get my blood sugar down (gestational diabetes). I'm on 20 units of insulin, and I can't get them down more than 3 points on average. That's up from 10 units...

My dietician's response? "Well, part of the problem may be because you're so muscular. Muscles are highly metabolic."

She has just jumped up the amount of insulin I have to self-inject by 4 units (usually it's 2). Now I wish I'd eaten all that ice cream and cake, damn it!

I thought exercise was supposed to help control this problem!

It's starting to look like I may have to be on as much as 40 units... and that is expected to increase exponentially as the pregnancy progresses.

Too muscular? I wish I was fat, then!

Is it over yet?

**TheLBM** · 09-01-2006, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by Amris

I haven't been able to get my blood sugar down (gestational diabetes). I'm on 20 units of insulin, and I can't get them down more than 3 points on average. That's up from 10 units...

My dietician's response? "Well, part of the problem may be because you're so muscular. Muscles are highly metabolic."

She has just jumped up the amount of insulin I have to self-inject by 4 units (usually it's 2). Now I wish I'd eaten all that ice cream and cake, damn it!

I thought exercise was supposed to help control this problem!

It's starting to look like I may have to be on as much as 40 units... and that is expected to increase exponentially as the pregnancy progresses.

Too muscular? I wish I was fat, then!

Is it over yet?

Hang tough girl....it will all be worth it soon

**Amris** · 09-01-2006, 06:40 AM

I don't want to go up to a bigger needle, and I don't want to have to go up to 40, because that means I may end up on as much as 60 or more by the end of the pregnancy. Which means an even bigger needle.

As it is right now, it STINGS when I inject just 20 units! Not a little beesting type sting, either, I mean, it HURTS.

I'm tired of stabbing myself all day long, morning noon and night, and I'm tired of going to bed with my leg throbbing in pain.

Plus, her kicking has become painful, and to be honest, I think that may also have to do with the muscles being so tight in my stomach. But it isn't like I can relax them or anything.

I dunno, I guess I'm just having a bad day because it all seems so difficult. I hate being completely out of control of my body like this. All of my experimentation has been useless, etc. I'm tired, I just want to get this done already, and I'm looking forward 2 months and just feeling totally overwhelmed.

**ChocoChick** · 09-01-2006, 06:57 AM

Amris, what happened on Tuesday when you saw the NP about your urine color and excessive thirst? My gut says this is all related.

**Amris** · 09-01-2006, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by dbflgirl

Amris, what happened on Tuesday when you saw the NP about your urine color and excessive thirst? My gut says this is all related.

They called and cancelled, I have to go NEXT tuesday.

The one they had called out, and they didn't have enough to cover for her.

Oh, and by the way, if I eat any carbs besides vegetables, it seems like my bloodsugar just skyrockets. I haven't had the courage to tell her that just yet, though... she told me to eat what was a fairly large number of carbs, and frankly, that didn't work. Eating mostly protien and vegetables, though, seems to work out pretty well for controlling it during the day. Which is opposite of what she told me to do.

**darkangel** · 09-01-2006, 08:53 AM

Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble! How much longer do you have to go?

Just think though, when she gets older, instead of the usual "I walked five miles to school, uphill in the snow - both ways" stories, you can make her feel guilty by telling her about the big needles and painful injections.

**buttandlegs** · 09-01-2006, 09:08 AM

Find another dietician

**bigchick** · 09-01-2006, 10:13 AM

find some different medics the works this not on! Hang in there. Hugs

**TheLBM** · 09-01-2006, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by dbflgirl

Amris, what happened on Tuesday when you saw the NP about your urine color and excessive thirst? My gut says this is all related.

yerp mine to...That thirst thing is not any better yet??
Damn girl.. that stinks..

**LiftingIsLife** · 09-01-2006, 11:26 AM

first off, Amris, i'm truly sorry that you're having a tough pregnancy at this point. knowing that you had problems with pregnancies in the past, it would seem that expecting a 'pain-free' 'easy-one' this time around was a little too much to expect.

i doubt that the kicking is due to tight stomach muscles. babies kick. some a little, some alot. considering this is your first preg to last 7 months, things are still tighter in there than they need to be. same thing happened to my ex when she had our 3 sons... 1st babe kicked a ton.. and my ex certainly didnt have 'tight abs' .. 2nd and 3rd babes kicked less (but stuck out their elbows more

anyway, 'hang in'... i know right now 2 months seems like an eternity, but once the babe is born, all those endorphins will kick in, and you will forget just how bad it was

best,
~lifer

**Amris** · 09-01-2006, 02:50 PM

No, this is my second full-term pregnancy. The first one didn't HURT so much when he kicked.

I realize that some are more active than others, it's not the activity that bothers me... it's that it really HURTS.

No, the thirst is still not better, and I'm getting really tired of it. I feel like I'm suffering, because it's beyond a discomfort, to being a genuine pain.

My first full-term pregnancy had its problems (namely the horrible sciatica, which I am having yet again), but this is just... well, it sucks.

**Ruth** · 09-02-2006, 03:17 AM

Amris, I feel so sorry for you, pregnancy and childbirth can be physically devastating, and it isn't helped by the fact that some women sail through both unscathed, so you end up feeling like a hypochondriac.

I got a piece of very simple but helpful advice from somebody after my baby was born and I was feeling very low, both physically and mentally (terrible back pain and total exhaustion due to a baby that slept little and cried a lot due to colic). She said, "hang on to this idea constantly: it will be over, very soon, it's temporary, so be very, very kind to yourself until then."

**ozigal** · 09-02-2006, 03:38 AM

hey amris hang in there!!!! If it helps console you my mum had three babies in her at the same time and couldn't get out of bed at all for the last three months she was so big!!!

**Geno** · 09-06-2006, 07:41 AM

Hey girl. I'm worried about you. If you don't get to a doc soon I'm going to take up a collection to pay for one outright.

**Amris** · 09-06-2006, 08:46 AM

I saw a GP yesterday, and a naturalistic doctor today... I forked over the $300 for this visit today out of pocket. Kind of feel bad about that... but I really think it will help.

She stated that she thinks my adrenals are depressed. My blood pressure was 96/60 while I was there, despite my best efforts to eat as much salt as I can.

She thinks that might be as a product of my adrenal exhaustion.

I really liked her, and I really felt that she did a LOT better helping me with my diabetes. She's concerned about the thirst, but thinks that it might also be a product of it- everyone's body works differently.

The GP is really worried about my urinary tract infection. I was unaware that those can cause you to go into preterm labor- it's the leading cause!

Have had them nonstop all my life, so it's antibiotics til childbirth for me. Bummer.

**Geno** · 09-06-2006, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Amris

I saw a GP yesterday, and a naturalistic doctor today... I forked over the $300 for this visit today out of pocket. Kind of feel bad about that... but I really think it will help.

She stated that she thinks my adrenals are depressed. My blood pressure was 96/60 while I was there, despite my best efforts to eat as much salt as I can.

She thinks that might be as a product of my adrenal exhaustion.

I really liked her, and I really felt that she did a LOT better helping me with my diabetes. She's concerned about the thirst, but thinks that it might also be a product of it- everyone's body works differently.

The GP is really worried about my urinary tract infection. I was unaware that those can cause you to go into preterm labor- it's the leading cause!

Have had them nonstop all my life, so it's antibiotics til childbirth for me. Bummer.

Thanks for the update cuteness. Do you have help with prescriptions? I have a ton of antibiotics laying around that are less than a year old. If you want I can look and see if any of them would be suitable.

**imperfectly_lou** · 09-06-2006, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Geno

Thanks for the update cuteness. Do you have help with prescriptions? I have a ton of antibiotics laying around that are less than a year old. If you want I can look and see if any of them would be suitable.

Eeeek! No!!!!!!!

**KickBoxQueen** · 09-06-2006, 05:17 PM

Amris!! There you are... I've been posting in your journal! I was worried about you! Well, I'm glad that you're okay--despite all the problems you're having. It will be worth it when it's over.... I hope things get better soon!!

**comebakthursday** · 09-06-2006, 05:34 PM

I dont think i know you as well as these guys do but i pray for you none the less. I usually know my fair share of medical talk(sister, dad and mom have all been through nursing school so its expected lol) but i know little about this stuff during pregnancy.

The one thing i do know about is adrenals and that its caused from basically over-exhaustion and a B-vitamin deficiency(of course you know this). Only tip i can give you is steer one hundered percent away from caffine. I know adrenals have a lot to do with sexual development and growth. Does this have any effect on your baby or do you not know?

Iv had my own problem with adrenals, it sucks.
All honesty i think your a stronger women then any man or women in these forums so im not only hoping but im expecting that you get through this

. Keep us updated hun.

**Geno** · 09-07-2006, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by imperfectly_lou

Eeeek! No!!!!!!!

lol - don't take pills from naked guys?

**Lucky K** · 09-07-2006, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Geno

lol - don't take pills from naked guys?

I'm sure it's either the glasses or your want of a bigger Ducati. Those Duc guys are kinda weird. ;>

**Geno** · 09-08-2006, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by Lucky K

I'm sure it's either the glasses or your want of a bigger Ducati. Those Duc guys are kinda weird. ;>

LOL!!

**empresscat** · 09-08-2006, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Geno

Thanks for the update cuteness. Do you have help with prescriptions? I have a ton of antibiotics laying around that are less than a year old. If you want I can look and see if any of them would be suitable.

Why would you have antibiotics laying around?
When you are prescribed antibiotics, you need to take the full course - otherwise you've just killed off the weak bacteria and left the more resistant ones - risking a re-infection that will be more difficult to kill.

Also a good reason not to take someone else's drugs - it's not just the correct drug and dosage, but the correct duration that's important.

Unless you're a doctor with a bunch of samples - in which case, none of that is news to you!

**empresscat** · 09-08-2006, 09:01 AM

Diabetes runs in my family. It's what put my dad on life support last year over the holidays. He had self-managed it with diet and exercise for years, but then an infection set everything out of whack.

HOWEVER - if he had not been in excellent physical condition before that, he would have had it much worse, and probably not survived. I have NEVER heard of too LITTLE bodyfat causing or exacerbating diabetes. Maybe I'm wrong. Ask your doctor for some studies you can read. I don't believe for a minute that being in good condition is the source of your problems. It probably is a mitigating factor.

Excessive thirst is one of the major indicators of blood-sugar imbalance. Since you already know that you have this, and are addressing it, not a lot more you can do. Maybe try some electrolyte drinks (the kind they make for babies) and see what effect they have on your system.

One of the things I was surprised by with the diet they put my dad on, is that it had higher amounts of carbs than I would have expected. At first, this did cause his blood sugar to wobble, but after a little while it evened out. He seemed to do better with fruits and sweet potatoes than with starchy carbs, too.

Taking those antibiotics for so long is not gonna be fun, watch for signs of yeast infection.

**Ruth** · 09-08-2006, 09:32 AM

The diabetic diet these days is very different for each individual. I know a young girl who's been told she has to eat 20 slices of bread per day and she finds it quite a nightmare getting the stuff down.

**Amris** · 09-08-2006, 09:53 AM

Well, lots of news.

I fired my OB/gyn. I complained at one point about severe fatigue, and have complained about this thirst. The famale doc there said, "Doesn't your family have a history of psychological disorders?" Yes, I'm sure that my aunt's schizophrenia is causing me to be tired and thirsty, MORON. Then, shortly after that, I found out from my dietician that I was anemic, which makes you... extremely fatigued (go figure).

Last time I went, I was kind of mad. I asked, "Why wasn't I told I'm anemic, and why did she insinuate that the fatigue was due to some mental problem, when she knew I was anemic?"

I was told, "we don't tell pregnant women when they're anemic, because it doesn't matter." Bull****, it sure as hell mattered to ME.

So I asked about the antibiotics, and why I wasn't told to go get something done about the recurrent infections. And why I wasn't told about the possibility of pre-term labor. He replied, "I don't have to tell you why, when I give you a prescription, you just take it."

That was the last straw for me. Blind obedience isn't going to happen. It seems that he forgot that I'm his boss- I am PAYING him, and if I want to know WHY, then I get to know WHY, or I quit giving him my damned money.

So now I'm going elsewhere for the final stage of my care. To hell with their "it's all in your head" when it's really anemia, and "you just do what I say, I don't have to tell you why."

Yeah, I'm not a very happy camper today.

**ChocoChick** · 09-08-2006, 10:12 AM

Good for you, Amris. I fired my ob/gyn in my 3rd trimester of my 3rd, higher risk, pregnancy and I didn't regret it for a minute. Have you found a new doctor yet?

**Amris** · 09-08-2006, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by dbflgirl

Good for you, Amris. I fired my ob/gyn in my 3rd trimester of my 3rd, higher risk, pregnancy and I didn't regret it for a minute. Have you found a new doctor yet?

Yep, sure did. I went in and got a tour of the office, and met with some of them. It was tough, though, I went through a great number of telephone calls before I found one that would accept someone so late in the pregnancy.

**empresscat** · 09-08-2006, 10:47 AM

I'm so glad to read that you did that.
I was seeing all kinds of red flags.

A doctor who won't respect my intelligence and explain things to me is one I refuse to keep.

**Amris** · 09-08-2006, 11:29 AM

Okay, update from my general practitioner... they want me to do electrolyte testing every week, they took my electrolytes while I was there, and they've come back low. They are concerned over how low my salt is, also, given that I salt just about every single meal.

I have an appointment on the 14th to get my kidneys and gall bladder looked at, to ensure that they're not inflamed (due to pain location, she thinks they might well be).

I did manage to get my records from the old OB/gyn, and will drop them off this Monday to the new Doc. I'm glad at least that they didn't give me any problems with that.

I'm really relieved with this GP, they are taking my issue seriously, and they're showing concern over the same things that have been concerning me, as well.

I use emergen-C twice a day to try to keep my elctrolytes up, and yet they're still low. This clearly shows the GP that there's something going on. She's concerned about those levels, though they're not down to dangerous. However, considering that I use emergen-C twice a day, she feels they really should be quite a bit higher.

I'm relieved to feel like some progress is being made. I may not know what's wrong yet, but at least I know that someone is trying to figure it out besides me!

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