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Old 08-22-2006, 12:30 PM   #1
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How Much Cardio Is Enough?

How much cardio to most of you do. Is 20 minutes of cardio a day, 6 days a week enough?
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Old 08-22-2006, 12:33 PM   #2
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**YOU ARE DOING TO MUCH CARDIO IF YOU COULD BE DOING LESS AND STILL LOSING 1-2LBS OF FAT PER WEEK**
^ I listen to what this guy said
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Old 08-22-2006, 01:21 PM   #3
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^ I listen to what this guy said

Wow, thanks, but that still doesn't answer his question.
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Old 08-22-2006, 01:34 PM   #4
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i do three days (the days i dont work the legs) of 20-30 min cardio after a workout, slow-to med intensity. on one (or two) of my non-lifting days ill do 45 minutes of mid-high intensity. i figure thats the best way for me... that way i wont be overdoing it but will still have enough cardio in my routine
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Old 08-22-2006, 01:47 PM   #5
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I think 4 days of cardio per week is pretty good. I do 4 days a week at moderate-high intensity, 20 minutes each time. I burn almost 400 calories each time.
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:18 PM   #6
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There's a problem with your question.

Here's a comparison.

Let's say my child wants a pony. I live in the suburbs, my lot is .2 acres (and let's not forget, part of that is house). So, because I love my child and I want to give her this pony, I go to the boyfriend and say, "Do you think we could get our daughter a pony? I can afford to buy hay for it."

Does this make sense? Is it logical? Of course not... I've taken one part of the picture, and said, "We can do this because I can afford hay."

How much of the equation is hay? Well... you must have enough room for the pony. You must buy grain for the pony. You must have shelter for it in winter. Our homeowner's association would not allow us to have a pony. Our neighbors would protest the pony poo...

So... what is your real question?

To answer your question, 3 X 30 mins per week is more than sufficient for heart health. You can do all the cardio you can stand... but at some point, you will reach a point of diminishing returns.

And that point will be sooner if you are not eating properly, etc. And what are you wanting to do, you want to lose FAT (not just any kind WEIGHT that will make the scales go down), or do you want to maintain... what do you want?

What are you already doing? Are you lifting? How often? Lifting heavy, we assume?



Your best bet is to first get your diet in line. If that's in line, and you are lifting on a healthy routine that builds muscle for you, then you should vary your cardio. Do 3 x 30 for a month, record the FAT LOSS. Take it up to 3 x 60 per month. Record the FAT LOSS.

(I am stressing FAT LOSS because the scales will lie to you. You might be losing weight, but unless you use calipers, you don't know if it's FAT, or MUSCLE)

Diet and weight training are the foundation. Once the foundation is in place, you can begin adding cardio bit by bit, until you find that "sweet spot" where you're losing fat but not muscle.

You are the best person to monitor and experiement with your own body. You're the master of it, you know it inside and out... and PROPER, HEALTY experimentation is best done by.... YOU.
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i do 45-60min elipital cardio 6x a week. weights 5x week. my cardio is about 12hours apart from my weight training. I found this to work best for me.
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How much cardio to most of you do. Is 20 minutes of cardio a day, 6 days a week enough?
I do cardio twice a day, 7 times a week...note that Im cutting!!! How much cardio is ENOUGH? Well it depends on how much youre willing to do and what works best for you. If 20 mins, 6 days a week is best than go ahead......If you feel you need more than by any means do more.
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I do 20 to 30 minutes of cardio 5 days a week after about 45 minutes of weight training. I feel awesome afterwards and that's what I think a person should go by. Don't do so much cardio each day that you're NOT looking forward to doing it the next day. I think a person needs to do 20 minutes of high intensity cardio five days a week or 30 minutes of moderate intensity cardio five days a week. Unless you're not used to doing any kind of cardio yet. Then you should start with like 10 minutes and work your way up to that. Judging by how well you are handling the 10 minutes of cardio, yanno?

I would suggest just doing cardio to where you're looking forward to doing it and you feel great afterwards. I personally would rather do 20 to 30 minutes a day, five days per week instead of two 1 hour cardio sessions per week. That is a psychological thing and many people think about that and it just makes them dread it. Spread it around a bit, let yourself enjoy it! I actually enjoy doing 30 or 45 minutes of cardio but because I'm doing weight training before had I tend to keep it around the 20 minutes of high intensity mark

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How much cardio to most of you do. Is 20 minutes of cardio a day, 6 days a week enough?

I sorta responded in my other thread but I personally think if you choose the correct intensity during your 20 minutes and you're doing some weight training (I just assumed that you were), you'll be fine!!!

But if you end up wanting to cut some extra body fat, just add a little more cardio and clean up the diet (most important).

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Old 08-22-2006, 06:49 PM   #12
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Here's a light week for myself - see the attached image.

My weight has totally flatlined at 250 although I do see definition *slowly* creeping in and other people that I don't see every day make comments that I'm getting more and more slender every time they see me.
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Old 08-23-2006, 09:01 PM   #13
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I hit up cardio before every work out.. for 5-15 mins pre workout and 5-15 mins post workout.. i have a 3 day split.. but i add in a bit of cardio on my off days cause i got alot of fat to burn. it all depends on what your goal is..
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Old 08-23-2006, 09:35 PM   #14
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yeh i also do it twice a day 7 days a week for the 3-4 weeks, but im cutting...i find tweaking activity levels to higher points over moving calories down too much helps in the long run more, and i like to keep my cuts short and sweet and lose max fat as quickly as possible. need to really state your goals... even when im not cutting i do some form of cardio everyday, i walk 3 miles a day from work and back, i play basketball or go for a light jog everyday for about 30 minuets....
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How much cardio to most of you do. Is 20 minutes of cardio a day, 6 days a week enough?
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So... what is your real question?
The second question is really the one you need to answer. What are you attempting to do with the cardio? What intensity are you at for that 20 minutes, if any? If you are going for cardiovascular health, there has to be a degree of intensity that walking for 20 minutes cannot provide. There is also the endurance equation, which calls steady running vs. sprinting/jogging alternations.

The basic caloric expenditures for cardio go roughly like this:

First 20 minutes -- 80% carbs burned, 20% fat.
Next 20 minutes -- 50% carbs, 50% fat.
40 minutes+ -- 80% fat, 20% carbs.

If you are just trying to flush out whatever carbs may be remaining in your system, 20 minutes may be enough. If you're trying to actively burn fat, it probably will not be, regardless of how many days a week you are doing it, but if you're trying to burn fat, then 80% (or more) of your success will depend on your diet. This raises the final question of what is your goal?
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The basic caloric expenditures for cardio go roughly like this:

First 20 minutes -- 80% carbs burned, 20% fat.
Next 20 minutes -- 50% carbs, 50% fat.
40 minutes+ -- 80% fat, 20% carbs.
Is that right? What intesity?
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Low to medium, which are generally the two paces most commonly used...
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It doesn't matter if you do an hour of low intensity or 20-30 minutes of high intensity as far as burning fat is concerned.

Lower intensity will burn a higher percentage of calories as fat, higher intensity will burn a lower percentage of fat but still toasts more total calories, so it really evens out.

The metabolism spike after each type of exercise nets the same amount of fat burned after the fact.

It's more about do you want to spend 20-30 minutes or 45-60 minutes on cardio, and can your joints (and other parts of your body) actually handle the rigors of higher intensity exercise?

There was an article posted in this forum within the past week examining the whole "Fat Burning Zone" myth and it was pretty exhaustive, citing numerous studies and tests performed on the subject.
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My Goal

I am trying to figure out how much cardio to do for cutting. I am 5'9, 180lbs, and 16% body fat. I want to get down to about 10% body fat before i bulk up. I workout 5 days a week, doing 1 body part a day. I do abs 3 times a week, thrown in the other workouts. I do cardio immediatly after my about 40 minute workouts. The cardio i do is usually 20 minutes on the stair master on level 10 which keeps my heart rate at about 160 beats per minute. My diet is pretty much in line. I eat 1900-2100 cals a day. Its based on 50% protien 35% carbs and 15% fat. So can you guys tell me if im doing enough cardio, and am heading in the right direction based on my goal?
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If you are trying to go for cutting, typically duration is more important than intensity. If you are driving your HR up to 160 and sustaining it for all 20 minutes, then you should add a 5 minute warm-up and cool-down period and plan on going 30 minutes instead of 20 total. Pushing as hard as you seem to be is dancing very close to catabolic activity, so you may want to reign it in a bit. If you're doing your workouts correctly, you shouldn't really have a great deal of carbs left to burn out, which means that it is mostly fat/protein cannibalized from body cells. If you would like to make it more fat than muscle, I suggest you use a more moderate pace.
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