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    is it good or am i going to get fatter?!

    here is the thing,
    i'm 163 cm long
    used to be 74kg, today 69.5kg
    i stared today to add a Smoothie after my San Blaze Xtreme serving, it includes:

    1 cup of low fat milk
    3 sp of Quaker oat
    4 dates
    2 wallnuts
    1 banana

    it tastes so good, i hope it lefts up my sex drive too
    after the smoothie i can feel the burn in my body!!
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    why would you get fat?
    "Don't count the days, make every day count"
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    Originally Posted by lirgo
    here is the thing,
    i'm 163 cm long
    used to be 74kg, today 69.5kg
    i stared today to add a Smoothie after my San Blaze Xtreme serving, it includes:

    1 cup of low fat milk
    3 sp of Quaker oat
    4 dates
    2 wallnuts
    1 banana

    it tastes so good, i hope it lefts up my sex drive too
    after the smoothie i can feel the burn in my body!!
    The fact that you made this thread shows me you have a very poor understanding of basic nutritional principle's and concepts.

    I highly suggest you read the stickies.
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    Originally Posted by boyscouT
    The fact that you made this thread shows me you have a very poor understanding of basic nutritional principle's and concepts.

    I highly suggest you read the stickies.
    ur right i'm tring to, maybe u can help me

    thanks for the reply muirsy88, boyscouT
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    Originally Posted by lirgo
    ur right i'm tring to, maybe u can help me

    thanks for the reply muirsy88, boyscouT
    Everyone starts somewhere .

    A good start is by reading the stickies in this section, and Losing Fat.

    Next, read this:

    Originally Posted by pu12en12g
    A few ideas and links that MIGHT help:

    Nutrition / Diet / Macros:

    Total daily calorie intake. This is what will make / break you

    It is NOT efficient to try and lose fat AND gain muscle at the same time

    BMR and nutrition calculator

    Total Daily Protein Intake (for best results I recommend AROUND 2g per lb of bodyweight)

    Foods (Good vs. Bad)

    Unified Theory of Nutrition - by Will Brink
    Bulking:
    When bulking (a calorie surplus to gain lean muscle mass at a optimal rate), I aim for:

    - 1lb beef per day
    - 1 Gallon Milk per day
    - Around 2000 cals per day from oats
    - Lots of protein shakes (up to 8 per day)
    - Chicken / Turkey
    - Beef / Sloppy Joes (manwich)
    - Rice
    - Pasta
    - Tuna
    - Potatoes
    - Veggies (Fresh if possible)

    If there was ONE SINGLE KEY to the gains I made in the 1 1/2 years when I went from 175-225 (my best.. leanest gains), it is OATS / STEEL CUT OATS ! The emphasis here is that oats are a INEXPENSIVE, HEALTHY, yet VERY CALORIE DENSE FOOD. I saw lean gains like I had never seen before. But NO THEY DON'T TASTE GOOD. YOU HAVE TO FORCE FEED THEM. This gets old fast. I added about 1 cup of oats to each protein shake.

    Hungry Hungry Hormones

    Massive Eating

    Stretch Mark Mass
    What are some good indications that I'm gaining muscle... ?
    Mirror / Appearance
    Measurements
    Strength
    Bodyweight
    Cutting:
    When cutting (a calorie deficit to lose fat at a optimal rate):

    I eat many of the same foods above, but with a lower TOTAL DAILY CALORIE INTAKE

    I put a emphasis on PRE- and POST-workout nutrition, and the end result is that most of my calories are eaten before my afternoon workout. I have found this to be ideal (for me).

    Fullness Factor Chart 1
    Fullness Factor Chart 2
    What it my basal metabolic rate ?
    Your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is the energy used (measured in calories) by your body to perform basic functions, including internal energy expenditure, breathing, and body temperature. It is the number of calories your body would expend if you performed no physical activity throughout the day.

    Simply put... your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is the rate at which your body burns calories while you rest. This is very important because we only have so much time for cardio each day.

    BMR Calculator:
    http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/
    Where can I learn more about the "Fatloss Basics ?"
    What are some good indications that I'm losing fat... ?
    Mirror / Appearance
    Measurements
    Bodyfat caliper
    Bodyweight
    Supplements:

    SAVE $$$$$ ! ! STICK WITH THE BASICS:

    Multivitamin
    (Click here for a Multivitamin Comparison Chart)
    10 lb bags of Optimum Whey Protein
    (Great BCAA profile AND glutamine... Note: I recommend Choc / Choc Mint only)
    Creapure Creatine or Creatine Ethyl Ester HCL or Magnesium Creatine Chelate
    Fishoil / Essential Fatty Acids
    Essential Amino Acids [Free Form Powder] pre-workout

    Stay on creatine, there is no need to cycle it ! (cycling and loading are totally optional)

    Creatine timing (when / how to take it):

    Science behind creatine timing
    In depth look at creatine

    For best results, aim for AROUND 2g of total daily protein intake per lb of bodyweight EVERY SINGLE DAY ! !

    Example:

    Bodyweight: 200lbs
    Total daily protein intake: 400g

    Here is why:

    Protein Prejudice
    Protein intake studies
    BCAA's / Leucine
    Workout / Routine:
    I recommend a MAX-OT, 5x5, HST (or similar) routine with a EMPHASIS ON:
    Squatting / Leg pressing
    Deadlifts
    Barbell benchpress
    (Including flat / decline / incline)
    Both BB's and DB's for best results

    Concentrate more on measurements and less on bodyweight

    Weigh yourself once a week. Should gain (or lose) around 1lb per week (depending on goals).

    Concentrate on form first, in order to stay injury free

    Emphasize both range of motion, and mind-muscle connection

    With intensity, strength gains, and a proper bodybuilding diet, the size gains (or fatloss) will come

    Make sure and have a spotter when working out your major muscle groups, preferrably someone bigger than you

    Don't be scared of overtraining. Simply listen (pay attention) to your body, and ask more questions later if you think you are overtraining.
    Cardio:

    If possible, do cardio at least 8 hours from when you lift weights

    If possible, do cardio in the AM after sleeping.

    No need to do cardio on a empty stomach, but many prefer to due to nausea

    Jumping rope is a very efficient form of cardio

    Sprinting is a very efficient form of cardio

    HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) is a efficient form of cardio
    Recovery (A.K.A GROWTH !):

    With proper intensity MUST COME PROPER RECOVERY !

    Make sure and get enough protein right before you go to sleep.

    Make sure and get enough protein/carbs right when you wake up

    Make sure and get enough deep, quality sleep (Not getting enough quality sleep is the #1 newbie mistake. You should aim for at least 8 QUALITY hours of sleep per night):

    http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...sleep_1_pr.htm
    http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...sleep_2_pr.htm

    Make sure and get enough protein / calories on off days (This is when your body will be recovering) It is important to be consistent !

    Make sure and get proper pre and post-workout nutrition:

    Carbs pre and post workout.
    Protein pre and post workout.
    Creatine pre and post workout:
    Pre, During, & Postworkout Nutrition (Click here)


    Cell volumization:

    Make sure and drink enough water both throughout the day and during your workout (this is CRITICAL ! !) I drink about 1 liter per hour, and at least 3 liters during my workout. (Keep in mind I am currently over 240lbs so you may not need this much).

    H2O / Cell Volumization... the ultimate supplement
    Stretch Mark Mass !
    The role of cellular hydration in the regulation of cell function
    In depth look at creatine
    Glycerine / Glycerol
    Nitric Oxide
    Other Resources:Good luck !
    If you have read this post and ALL the links provided and you still have a question or concern.. please E-Mail me and I'll get back to you as soon as possible:

    pt@controlledlabs.com
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    thanks alot boyscouT
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    Originally Posted by lirgo
    thanks alot boyscouT
    You're welcome. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. We're all here to learn and help each other.
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    Originally Posted by lirgo

    1 cup of low fat milk
    3 sp of Quaker oat
    4 dates
    2 wallnuts
    1 banana
    I love seeing stuff like this. You might try substituting 3.5 almonds or 4 peanuts in lieu of the walnuts. You could also throw in 3/4 of a brazil nut.
    Supplement free,
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