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    Is it true?

    Today I was talkin to a couple boxers at my gym that I had just met and they asked me what I train for and I told them MMA and they started telling me MMA is really risky because you get the **** kicked out of you all the time and you get a lot of broken bones and when you get hurt it takes a long long time to recover and that I should just be a boxer instead because you dont get hurt as much or as badly. I dont know it just kinda broke my spirits a bit. I was just wondering, is participating in an MMA fight really like this? I hope this isnt a dumb question.
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    Originally Posted by T-bomb
    Today I was talkin to a couple boxers at my gym that I had just met and they asked me what I train for and I told them MMA and they started telling me MMA is really risky because you get the **** kicked out of you all the time and you get a lot of broken bones and when you get hurt it takes a long long time to recover and that I should just be a boxer instead because you dont get hurt as much or as badly. I dont know it just kinda broke my spirits a bit. I was just wondering, is participating in an MMA fight really like this? I hope this isnt a dumb question.
    I'ld prefer to risk a broken arm rather than take a few too many shots to the head and start slowing down where it really matters.
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    EDC is bang on. Ask them how many head shots they take per fight and also how many they take in training. A broken arm isn't going to hurt you long term (and seriously, if it gets broken, you should've tapped already), multiple head shots will.
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    You dont get that many injuries in MMA..little things sometimes like broken toes...not really a big deal. Even when you fight, not much usually happens minutes bruises and abrasions..in boxing you get brain damaged from SUSTAINED repetetive head shots.
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    I'd rather break a few bones than end up like Muhammad Ali.
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    Muhammad Ali has parkinsons, and it's just expected he is like he is due to too many hits to the head.. His illness is not related to boxing..

    But the posts are still right... boxing equals brain damage...

    MMA, the damage you receive heals.. repeated blows to the head from ten ounce gloves does not heal...

    Do some research.. how many boxers die a year.. then find out how many MMArtists die a year, or ever... simple enough answer..

    MMA is seen as brutal because blood is involved.. but the simple fact is it is short term damage being dealt... not long term... a break, a cut, a tear... all heals...

    Brain Damage.. doesn't heal... Neither does death...
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    Originally Posted by Swole4Life
    Muhammad Ali has parkinsons, and it's just expected he is like he is due to too many hits to the head.. His illness is not related to boxing..

    But the posts are still right... boxing equals brain damage...

    MMA, the damage you receive heals.. repeated blows to the head from ten ounce gloves does not heal...

    Do some research.. how many boxers die a year.. then find out how many MMArtists die a year, or ever... simple enough answer..

    MMA is seen as brutal because blood is involved.. but the simple fact is it is short term damage being dealt... not long term... a break, a cut, a tear... all heals...

    Brain Damage.. doesn't heal... Neither does death...
    You didn't happen to see Bill O'Reilly's interview with Rich Franklin and Dana White did you? Dana and Rich made the exact same points(more risk for long term injury in boxing, never been a major injury/death in MMA, Ali's disease not related to boxing etc.) and basically owned O'Reilly on his own show. The clip is probably on youtube if you haven't seen it, it's pretty good, Rich and Dana come off looking pretty smart.
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    Originally Posted by 2kool4skool
    You didn't happen to see Bill O'Reilly's interview with Rich Franklin and Dana White did you? Dana and Rich made the exact same points(more risk for long term injury in boxing, never been a major injury/death in MMA, Ali's disease not related to boxing etc.) and basically owned O'Reilly on his own show. The clip is probably on youtube if you haven't seen it, it's pretty good, Rich and Dana come off looking pretty smart.
    Rich and Dana should have come to the table with more though.. I did see it though, and I ****in hate O'Reilly for it.. "Ultimate Fighting Challenge, where combatents literally beat the heck out of each other".. haha, what a joke...

    Why are you in the red... I always see good posts from you..
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    If your spirits break that easily then I don't think your cut out for the business. Do what you want and **** everyone else.
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    oh i'm definitely still gunna train my ass off dont worry. thanks guys.
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    As stated (amazing post's guys, you got my respect) boxing is much more damaging in the long run.

    I mean, worst I've had so far, is bruised feet, dislocated toe, sprained wrist, nothing major, they heal, and they become stronger and more adapted, where as boxing it's just literally pounding the **** out of eachothers head and midsection for 10 rounds, now that's ****ed up.

    Boxing = outdated fighting technique, it's just a sport/art now, MMA is where you wanna hang now, MMA breeds the perfect fighter, if not for the competition, for survival.
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    Yeah boxing is generally way more dangerous than MMA. Most guys don't get any kind of injuries from submission holds, and taking a few big punches to end a fight in MMA isn't half as bad as taking a prolonged beating in boxing, getting up from repeated 10 counts, etc.
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    The guy is a boxing trainer, he loves boxing...my boxing trainer tried to convince me that boxing is better than kickboxing...boxing isn't bad or anything, but he's telling me that he can escape the reach from a guy's foot....
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    Originally Posted by Jeam
    The guy is a boxing trainer, he loves boxing...my boxing trainer tried to convince me that boxing is better than kickboxing...boxing isn't bad or anything, but he's telling me that he can escape the reach from a guy's foot....
    LOL! YAH OK!

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    You get more injuries in MMA, definitely. The injuries sustained in a fight are minor compared to the injuries sustained in practice... lots of ACL/MCL tears, tendon damage, etc. All of which heals of course, but it's to be expected when you're simulating lethal and crippling submissions on each other. The gloves are smaller, so there's more cuts (although we don't really train with the 4oz gloves). Right now I'm nursing a serious of ligament tears, sprained joints, and hematomas on my shins and insteps. So anybody who says that MMA isn't rougher on the body is wrong. Maybe boxing has worse long-term effects... but I definitely get way more jacked up in practice doing my muay thai and BJJ training than I do when I just work my hands alone.
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    Originally Posted by King Baer
    You get more injuries in MMA, definitely. The injuries sustained in a fight are minor compared to the injuries sustained in practice... lots of ACL/MCL tears, tendon damage, etc. All of which heals of course, but it's to be expected when you're simulating lethal and crippling submissions on each other. The gloves are smaller, so there's more cuts (although we don't really train with the 4oz gloves). Right now I'm nursing a serious of ligament tears, sprained joints, and hematomas on my shins and insteps. So anybody who says that MMA isn't rougher on the body is wrong. Maybe boxing has worse long-term effects... but I definitely get way more jacked up in practice doing my muay thai and BJJ training than I do when I just work my hands alone.

    I would not classify any of those as severe injuries. Pulls, cuts, tendon damage etc. is minor compared to the brain injuries boxers receive from the constant blunt trauma of a boxing glove.

    Getting hit once with a bare fist/4 oz. glove and being knocked unconcious is MUCH better than being hit 200 times with a boxing glove and not being knocked unconcious.

    The safer sport is MMA. The UFC has NEVER had a serious injury or death. Boxing has 2-3 deaths a year. Not to mention the fighters that are vegetables by age 50.
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    I'ld prefer to risk a broken arm rather than take a few too many shots to the head and start slowing down where it really matters.

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    Originally Posted by 2kool4skool
    I would not classify any of those as severe injuries. Pulls, cuts, tendon damage etc. is minor compared to the brain injuries boxers receive from the constant blunt trauma of a boxing glove.

    Getting hit once with a bare fist/4 oz. glove and being knocked unconcious is MUCH better than being hit 200 times with a boxing glove and not being knocked unconcious.

    The safer sport is MMA. The UFC has NEVER had a serious injury or death. Boxing has 2-3 deaths a year. Not to mention the fighters that are vegetables by age 50.
    I never disagreed with you. But at the same time, I know a LOT of people who have had to go under the knife for some serious injuries---shoulder surgery, acl repair, etc---and they all train MMA. MMA is very, very tough on the body, way moreso than boxing is. Perhaps boxing will cripple you mentally after time, but MMA has the potential to end any serious athletic aspirations you may have had very early on through irreversable joint/bone/tendon damage. Not to mention the rare cases of wrestlers getting dropped on their heads and sustaining spinal damage. Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't soon, and there are no rules against slamming in pro MMA like there is in amateur wrestling.

    Boxing is NOT that dangerous, unless you have a long career. If you're deciding to do one or the other recreationally, you will be better off with boxing if injuries and health are a important factor.
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    Originally Posted by 2kool4skool
    never been a major injury/death in MMA.
    not true theres a clip out their of some dude dieing, he didnt get a proper medical before the fight i heard, i think somthin happend with his heart
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    Some of the guys I've trained with faught amateur. I don't think elbows were aloud, not sure about knees, and I think they wore shin pads. So if you're fighting amateur it is much less risky and the fights aren't as brutal. Plus you shouldn't get broken arms unless it's just a freak accident because you should always be able to tap before that happens (unless you're a dumbass like sylvia). The worst I've had is a broken toe...and it was from warm ups before practice started lol. We were doing hip heists and I'm use to having wrestling shoes on, and when I went to sit my foot through my pinky toe caught on the mat.
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    Originally Posted by Meyhem
    not true theres a clip out their of some dude dieing, he didnt get a proper medical before the fight i heard, i think somthin happend with his heart
    I think that was in another country in like an unsanctioned fight where the guy had a preexisting heart condition. There hasn't been a death in the us I don't think.
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    not to my knowledge there has not been a death in a saction'd fight. you can get hurt getten outta bed in the morning.. train what you wanna train.. and of course if your a begginer.. the vets aren't gonna beat on you when you first start.
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    Yeah the guys name was douglas dedge and he had a preexisting medical condition. He had been blacking out in training before the fight.
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    Sounds like boxers promoting boxing over MMA to me. Yes, you will probably experience a greater VARIETY of injuries in MMA, but a sprain, cut, even a broken bone will heal. Compare that to boxing where you take roughly 5x as many punches to the head, and not punches that are a distraction to set up for a takedown, punches that are intended to crack your dome. (Yes I realize that there are KO artists in MMA as well, but not nearly as many). Head injuries are the worst (IMO) and the potential to get those in boxing is much greater. Don't even get me started on the standing 8 count...
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    Originally Posted by Swole4Life
    Muhammad Ali has parkinsons, and it's just expected he is like he is due to too many hits to the head.. His illness is not related to boxing.
    Uhh, wrong. His Parkinsons certainly is related to boxing, and taking blows to the head. Dana was wrong.
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