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    Chewing tobacco and bodybuilding?

    My training program is solid and my nutrition is in check. I don't drink AT ALL or smoke marijuana. However, I chew a little less than a quarter can of Copenhagen snuff every day. I'm not concerned about getting mouth or throat cancer (call me ignorant, but right now I could care less). What I am curious about is the acute effects of nicotine on the body in relation to training. Is chewing at this rate having adverse effects on my progress (gaining muscle), or is the effect negligible? I've heard that nicotine acts as a fat-burner, but I don't know whether this is psuedo-science. I know I should be trying to quit, but unless the nicotine causes definite, acute adverse effects on muscle building, I won't stop right now. So, is the tobacco having adverse effects on my goals, or can I continue to chew without sacrificing my progress? Thanks for the help.
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    As far as actual muscle growth, I don't believe the nicotine will affect it. What nicotine will do is suppress your appetite, which could affect your gains adversely (and hence why ppl think its a "fatburner"). Hell, I smoke cigs a few days a week (not a chain smoker by any means though) and Im seeing great gains. Just make sure to eat and lift hard, and u'll see gains, trust me
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    same boat

    Originally Posted by IronGame08
    My training program is solid and my nutrition is in check. I don't drink AT ALL or smoke marijuana. However, I chew a little less than a quarter can of Copenhagen snuff every day. I'm not concerned about getting mouth or throat cancer (call me ignorant, but right now I could care less). What I am curious about is the acute effects of nicotine on the body in relation to training. Is chewing at this rate having adverse effects on my progress (gaining muscle), or is the effect negligible? I've heard that nicotine acts as a fat-burner, but I don't know whether this is psuedo-science. I know I should be trying to quit, but unless the nicotine causes definite, acute adverse effects on muscle building, I won't stop right now. So, is the tobacco having adverse effects on my goals, or can I continue to chew without sacrificing my progress? Thanks for the help.
    Bro I am in the same boat as you and chew a can a day. It doesnt effect my gains at all. If you ever can figure out how to quit let me know because I tried and failed several times.
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    Nictotine can raise cortisol levels over time, which isn't ideal for an anabolic environment in your body.
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    Dip is great! I will get into binges of it then stop using it for like a month and start using it again..I'm craving some green apple skoal1
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    i chewed a can a day for almost 3 years and tried to quit like 6 times. I never was successful for staying clean for more than like 2 weeks. I still miss it and the relaxation it gave me, but nicotine is no joke. I don't think there are any tricks to quitting, the time I "really" quit was no different than any other time really. I actually quit cold turkey. What is wierd is that it was during a rough time in my life that I actually quit. You'd think that would make it harder, but it really wasn't.
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    Yeah I used to chew a can a day but it became too expensive. I'm not about to start giving out sloppy blowjobs behind dumpsters to support my habit, so I decided to cut down. It was rough at first but I'm getting by on a quarter can. My old man has been chewing for 45 years and still hasn't been able to quit. He stopped for 4 years after undergoing acupuncture for his addiction, but he started up again. Now THATS a ****ing addiction fellas.
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    haha, we are talking about tobacco here, not crack. i don't think many people need to give blowjobs to support a chewing habit. especially sloppy ones
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    Originally Posted by BigPappaSmurf
    Nictotine can raise cortisol levels over time, which isn't ideal for an anabolic environment in your body.

    What this guy said ^^^

    Cortisol = Catabolic, that's why you if you can you should avoid medications like Prednisone and other corticosteroids.

    As for chewing tobacco, did you know they put shards of fiberglass in this stuff to cut the flesh inside the mouth so that the nicotine enters the blood more freely/quicker?
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    Originally Posted by StoneJaw
    What this guy said ^^^

    Cortisol = Catabolic, that's why you if you can you should avoid medications like Prednisone and other corticosteroids.

    As for chewing tobacco, did you know they put shards of fiberglass in this stuff to cut the flesh inside the mouth so that the nicotine enters the blood more freely/quicker?
    My friend said (not the smartest guy..) they don't do that with copenhagen cuz its strong enough or something like that...but he does know his dip.

    just remember...dont dip before sex...stuff "doesnt happen" when nicotine is in your blood.
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    Originally Posted by smknmofo
    My friend said (not the smartest guy..) they don't do that with copenhagen cuz its strong enough or something like that...but he does know his dip.

    just remember...dont dip before sex...stuff "doesnt happen" when nicotine is in your blood.
    Just open a tin of Copenhagen and look for reflective stuff, I never have so I wouldn't know, but it doesn't hurt to look.
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    Originally Posted by msundi83
    haha, we are talking about tobacco here, not crack. i don't think many people need to give blowjobs to support a chewing habit. especially sloppy ones
    Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances known to man; up there with heroin, meth, and cocaine, even though the high is nowhere near that of those aforementioned drugs.
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    Originally Posted by StoneJaw
    What this guy said ^^^

    Cortisol = Catabolic, that's why you if you can you should avoid medications like Prednisone and other corticosteroids.

    As for chewing tobacco, did you know they put shards of fiberglass in this stuff to cut the flesh inside the mouth so that the nicotine enters the blood more freely/quicker?
    That's a myth. Just like the one where dealers put glass in MDMA pills so they enter the bloodstream faster.
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    I love the Cope

    I dipped Cope for about 4 years and my last trip to Iraq i quit. Lifting and eating was my substitute. I did notice i was a lot more energetic after i quit but i had no trouble with gains while dipping.
    Everyonce in a while i crave a pinch so bad! Times like this.
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    as long as your getting enough food your fine. i have to keep check on making sure i get in enough food everyday, cuz i would much rather throw a dip in then eat. i know of a few pros who chew while cutting to controll their appetite.
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    I have chewed for about 20 years. thought I was smart quiting the smoke and going to chew. well I finally quit about 5 days ago, and I'm ready to start cigars now, then maybe go to a pipe, love the smell of pipe tabacco.
    Just joking about the cigars and pipe, but wouldn't mind any sort of tabaccoo right now as I'm going nuts and dont think I'm going to last much longer. I actually feel like crap, more sleepy (spaced out) , more tense, which I expected, but having LESS energy isn't something I would have expected.

    reason I quit is because I started having the cold sweats out of the blue for no reason. I would be just sitting there watching tv or something where I'm doing nothing, and all of sudden start feeling abit chilled, then start getting clammy and abit sweaty. Only thing I can think of is that the nic. was making my anxiety alot worse than normal, and possibly affecting blood pressure, not sure, but its enough to scare me into quiting. thought it was strange though and I should be use to it after doing it for twenty years, but guess my body was telling me enough of that ****.

    Is there any of you that have quit,, after chewing as long as I have?
    let me know your withdrawl symptoms and how long they lasted.

    I can see myself breaking down and buying a can, Heh, heh, maybe not now, but when hunten season starts, but if I do, I'll have to do some research and find out which ones contain less Nicotene.
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    Originally Posted by Danoe
    I have chewed for about 20 years. thought I was smart quiting the smoke and going to chew. well I finally quit about 5 days ago, and I'm ready to start cigars now, then maybe go to a pipe, love the smell of pipe tabacco.
    Just joking about the cigars and pipe, but wouldn't mind any sort of tabaccoo right now as I'm going nuts and dont think I'm going to last much longer. I actually feel like crap, more sleepy (spaced out) , more tense, which I expected, but having LESS energy isn't something I would have expected.

    reason I quit is because I started having the cold sweats out of the blue for no reason. I would be just sitting there watching tv or something where I'm doing nothing, and all of sudden start feeling abit chilled, then start getting clammy and abit sweaty. Only thing I can think of is that the nic. was making my anxiety alot worse than normal, and possibly affecting blood pressure, not sure, but its enough to scare me into quiting. thought it was strange though and I should be use to it after doing it for twenty years, but guess my body was telling me enough of that ****.

    Is there any of you that have quit,, after chewing as long as I have?
    let me know your withdrawl symptoms and how long they lasted.

    I can see myself breaking down and buying a can, Heh, heh, maybe not now, but when hunten season starts, but if I do, I'll have to do some research and find out which ones contain less Nicotene.

    Its tough bro I hope you kick it. I tried and couldnt
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