I recently purchased SciFit Ephedra 1000. Only after receiving my shipment did I realize that it contains 40mg of ephedra per capsule. Most products that I've used only contain 20mg per serving of 2-3 capsules.
Has anyone used this particular product or anything else with similiar doseage?
Is it ok to dump some of the capsule contents into a shake to lessen the doseage?
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Thread: Safe Ephedra doseage???
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01-08-2003, 06:49 PM #1
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Re: Safe Ephedra doseage???
Originally posted by OnMyWay
I recently purchased SciFit Ephedra 1000. Only after receiving my shipment did I realize that it contains 40mg of ephedra per capsule. Most products that I've used only contain 20mg per serving of 2-3 capsules.
Has anyone used this particular product or anything else with similiar doseage?
Is it ok to dump some of the capsule contents into a shake to lessen the doseage?You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to believe. -- Carl Sagan
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01-09-2003, 08:35 AM #4
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I have read in several places that the 'industry recommended standard' is no higher than 25mg in one dose and 90mg per day.
Is it just a matter of tolerance?
Does anyone regularly use doseages higher than 25mg?
If so, did you build up to the higher amount or jump right into it?
Again, any input as far as mixing half a capsules contents into some sort of beverage to cut the 40mg dose down would be apreciated.
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01-09-2003, 04:43 PM #5
Re: Safe Ephedra doseage???
Originally posted by OnMyWay
I recently purchased SciFit Ephedra 1000. Only after receiving my shipment did I realize that it contains 40mg of ephedra per capsule. Most products that I've used only contain 20mg per serving of 2-3 capsules.
Has anyone used this particular product or anything else with similiar doseage?
Is it ok to dump some of the capsule contents into a shake to lessen the doseage?
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Originally posted by OnMyWay
What's the difference?
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01-10-2003, 01:25 PM #8Originally posted by CerealKiller
Ephedra also known as ma huang is a plant. Ephedrine is the active ingredient in ephedra. Sort of like marijuana is a plant while THC is the active ingredient that produces the effects.
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01-10-2003, 01:40 PM #9
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Originally posted by WillBrink
Exactly. It also means the product he mentioned in fact is quite low dosed, not high dosed for the active compound.
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I must be missing something. Please explain.
1000mg Ephedra
X .08 ephedrine extract = 80mg ephedrineYou can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to believe. -- Carl Sagan
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01-10-2003, 01:46 PM #10Originally posted by CerealKiller
80mg of ephedrine per serving is low dosed ?
I must be missing something. Please explain.
1000mg Ephedra
X .08 ephedrine extract = 80mg ephedrine
"40mg of ephedra per capsule. Most products that I've used only contain 20mg per serving of 2-3 capsules." And most ephedra is standardized to more like 4-6%.BrinkZone, Where Bro-Science Got Rabies and Died!
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01-10-2003, 02:05 PM #11
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Originally posted by WillBrink
Dont think you read the post close enough. He said:
"40mg of ephedra per capsule. Most products that I've used only contain 20mg per serving of 2-3 capsules." And most ephedra is standardized to more like 4-6%.You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to believe. -- Carl Sagan
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01-10-2003, 02:11 PM #12Originally posted by CerealKiller
The product he's questioning is standardized to 8% and I believe he meant to say 40mg ephedrine per capsule.BrinkZone, Where Bro-Science Got Rabies and Died!
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Originally posted by WillBrink
I quoted exactly what he said no? He said ephedra, hence the reason for the thread.
OnMyWay - Best to play it safe with ephedrine products. I wouldn't suggest trying to build up your tolerance to the stuff. IMO take one capsule 45 mins pre-workout and don't exceed 90mg per day.You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to believe. -- Carl Sagan
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01-10-2003, 02:42 PM #14Originally posted by CerealKiller
Yes. But lets not tell him the product he's selected is a weak dosage. It's not. Serving size is 2 capsules and that's 80mg ephedrine at once.
OnMyWay - Best to play it safe with ephedrine products. I wouldn't suggest trying to build up your tolerance to the stuff. IMO take one capsule 45 mins pre-workout and don't exceed 90mg per day.
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Originally posted by WillBrink
I really dont follow you. If its 40mg of ephedRA per cap and its 8% ephedrine (which BTW is probably not true) then the fact is, its a low dose period and FAR below the doses found to be effective in the data. I have never seen a product that had 40mg of ephedRINE per cap, but who knows.
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01-10-2003, 02:52 PM #16Originally posted by CerealKiller
It's not. It's 40mg of ephedRINE per cap. You can check the label at the cyber store here.
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Sorry for the confusion guys. I just assumed that the terms went hand-in-hand.
However, now I'm more confused after checking out the ingredient labels on a few products I have in the house.
Here are 3 products and what they say the ingredients are:
(note the different use of the words 'EphedRA and EphedRINE'. Are they labeling wrong, or are some are the TW adn SciFit products less effective?)
Vitamin Shoppe, MetaboShape
Ma Huang Extract 334mg, (Ephedra Sinica)(aerial parts), standardized to 6% Ephedrine Alkaloids 20mg.
Twinlab Ripped Fuel Extreme
Ma Huang Extract, (aerial parts), standardized for 20mg ephedra alkaloids
SciFit Ephedra 1000
Ephedra Extract 500mg, (8% ephedrine), standardized for 40mg ephedra alkaloids
Sorry to drag this on, but with all the controversary I just want to be sure of what I'm using.
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01-13-2003, 07:18 PM #19
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Originally posted by OnMyWay
Sorry for the confusion guys. I just assumed that the terms went hand-in-hand.
However, now I'm more confused after checking out the ingredient labels on a few products I have in the house.
Here are 3 products and what they say the ingredients are:
(note the different use of the words 'EphedRA and EphedRINE'. Are they labeling wrong, or are some are the TW adn SciFit products less effective?)
Vitamin Shoppe, MetaboShape
Ma Huang Extract 334mg, (Ephedra Sinica)(aerial parts), standardized to 6% Ephedrine Alkaloids 20mg.
Twinlab Ripped Fuel Extreme
Ma Huang Extract, (aerial parts), standardized for 20mg ephedra alkaloids
SciFit Ephedra 1000
Ephedra Extract 500mg, (8% ephedrine), standardized for 40mg ephedra alkaloids
Sorry to drag this on, but with all the controversary I just want to be sure of what I'm using.
MetaboShape 334mg X .06 = 20.04mg ephedrine
SciFit 1000 500mg X .08 = 40.00mg ephedrine
Just take the big number and multiply the percentage its standardized to like the examples above to figure how much ephedrine you're getting per capsule or serving.You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to believe. -- Carl Sagan
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01-14-2003, 12:21 AM #20
yeah, ignore the amount of "ephedra" per cap. the "ephedrine" is what matters.
i would recommend building a tolerance before taking those caps. 40 mg at once will be about the same as if you took 2-3 caffeine pills. if you want to feel like that, it's all good, but it can cause heart palpitations and so on.
you could break the pills in half and put them in a shake, but often times when something is put into aqueous solution - especially alkaloids, like ephedrine - it can change it's composition. you could be changing the ephedrine HCl into ephedrine and HCl (salt) separately, which could render the compound orally inactive (although it might be possible for you to smoke it....) instead, i'd recommend buying a weaker dosage and working your way up. 50 mgs a day works fine for me.
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