When i say successful - I obviously mean roidless and just nicely developed...
I understand that meat contains all kind of good crap in it...
But for many reasons from random people and just from seeing how dairy etc etc can do as good as far as protein - i was wondering what u think?
Egg Whites, Cottage Cheese, Milk etc etc etc etc are POWERFUL protein sources...
MAIN QUESTION:
(considering this person really wants to be a BB)
If eating meat is a hassle/disgust etc etc (many other reasons), would it be a right path to just stay on other strong protein sources and would it hurt some gains if meat is never to be touched again?
by meat i mean Chicken, Pork, Beef, Turkey etc. lol if you didnt know...
consider this from a person who would want to become a professional natural bodybuilder...who trains right, right supplements, rests right, and is for real...
just question, really wondering
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08-03-2006, 09:19 PM #1
Can one become a successful bodybuilder without meat?
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08-03-2006, 11:39 PM #2Registered User
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nope! you need meat, full of good protein and calories to help you grow. i also cant see why you woluld not want it, its so dang good!
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08-04-2006, 12:13 AM #3Registered User
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Yeah, you could be successful at BBing without eating meat. Just rely on eggs, milk, cc, nuts, etc...
Oh, and protein powder :P
Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Besides, you don't need THAT much protein anyway, only about 1g/pound anyway, which is easy to meet.
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08-04-2006, 12:51 AM #4Nothin but a peanut!
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It wont be that hard, eggs , milk, whey , nuts, are all good sources, dont touch soy protein though, apparently it can raise estrogen ( testosterones counter hormone)
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08-04-2006, 01:25 AM #5Pontifex Maximus
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Its like asking "can vegetarians play sport? do vegetarians really exist?"
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08-04-2006, 04:18 AM #6Registered User
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Originally Posted by Little 1
I have known several Vegans that are totally big and ripped and one lacto vegetarian that was competitive. If you can get in enough protein you will grow just like everyone else. If your genetics help then woohoo for that.
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08-04-2006, 04:37 AM #7Heavy Duty
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"Bill Pearl didn't convince me to become a vegetarian, but he did convince me that a vegetarian could become a champion bodybuilder" --- Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I only have one meal a day that contains meat.RIP Steve Irwin :(
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08-04-2006, 04:56 AM #8Mister Natural
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vegetarian bodybuilders
I think Steve Brisbois and Andreas Cahling were vegetarians and great bodybuilders! Now these guys were exactly the top IFBB pros, but they were outstanding.
Steve was well know pro bodybuilder in early '90s. He was in the IFBB and from Canada. I think he got 11th place in the '92 Olympia (beating Lou Ferrigno and Ronnie Coleman too).
Andreas was an IFBB pro. He is well known for his posing suit company...
You can find out more about him here: http://www.andreascahling.com/andreas-aboutCompetitive Natural Bodybuilder
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08-04-2006, 07:51 AM #9@___@
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well yeah... its gonna be more due to your overall work ethic, training and genetics more so than it is your source of protein, should probably get some high quality whey and casein to complement your diet.
as for soy protein, its still open for debate, and a little bit here and there isn't going to make or break you, but you definitely shouldn't make it your primary source, or getting shakes from it, as it *is* well documented to mimic weak estrogen...its not the protein itself but the isoflavones that come with it, now exactly how that plays a role is yet to be fully understood.Last edited by grapemaster; 08-04-2006 at 07:55 AM.
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08-04-2006, 07:54 AM #10Registered User
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[QUOTE=reflexions]"Bill Pearl didn't convince me to become a vegetarian, but he did convince me that a vegetarian could become a champion bodybuilder" --- Arnold Schwarzenegger.QUOTE]
Exact person I was going to allude to with the topic of this post. Go to www.billpearl.com he was 250 contest, a very large dude.
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08-04-2006, 08:15 AM #11Fitter than ever.
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Originally Posted by djansen
This person is not educated on the subject; or they are straight up lying.
Many body builders, including myself, are vegeterians. The key is to get alot of protien without meat. Milk and dairy actually has more protien per gram than meat. Especially whey protien.
I've gained like 15 lbs muscle and not have about the same amount of body fat I started with. I gained a bit here and there, but never more than I could handle in a week or two of eating a bit less. The key is moderation, paying close attention to your body, and getting lots of non-meat protien.
I know a few other vegeterian body builders. It is not only entirely possible, because non-meat protien is much healthier on your colon, it is way better in the long run. If you don't know what I mean about the colon, read up on the differences between human digestive systems and those of carnivores like Lions.Visit my journal:
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08-04-2006, 08:38 AM #12Originally Posted by djansen
lol. your a damn foolhttp://www.loosechange911.com/
Click the dark words that say "click here to watch loose change" directly above the picture of the rubble. A must watch video for anyone who cares enough to know the truth of 9-11.
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08-04-2006, 10:25 AM #13
Thank you so much dudes!
Very nice replies...i couldnt ask for more...
Have a nice day!
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08-04-2006, 11:23 AM #14
I am a veggy aswel, and im about to start a cycle,
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08-04-2006, 01:27 PM #15Registered User
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Bill Pearl ate fish and eggs- so he doesn't count imo. He also abused steroids- not that it matters- but the guy that asked the original question did qualify it with "roidless".Originally Posted by reflexionsLast edited by johnnyironboard; 08-04-2006 at 01:31 PM.
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08-04-2006, 03:42 PM #16Registered User
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The biggest natural bodybuilder i've ever seen is a vegetarian...
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06-12-2007, 08:34 AM #17Registered User
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i see u guys talking about SOY PROTEIN being bad...
so whats the difference between soy protein and whey protein?
whey protein isnt bad, right?
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