I have posted this at another board, but thought that this should be up here on BB.com too...
After having tried everything under the sun for the last 10 years (or, if this is an overstatement, "everything under the roof of *************) I have finally found a supplement that truly makes a difference in hypertrophy: X- FACTOR (XF). As a result, XF replaces Sesathin ans my favorite supplement of all time. By the way. XF and Sesathin are the only supplements that I have noticed a difference with. All others fall into the "well maybe it helped a bit, but I can't really tell" category, which for me is not worth the money spent on them.
I will not be able to do a full log but to make a long story short, I had started XF a month ago at 4 capsules a day (each capsule has 250 mg of arachidonic acid) and after 7-8 days I had to stop as I was forced to travel. Unfortunately, 4 caps/day had done nothing in 7-8 days, so when I returned and was ready to start the XF cycle again, I ordered another bottle (now I had 2.5 bottles) and began the cycle with 5 caps/day. In around a week, I started to notice strength and size gains but most amaznigly, I started to lose fat even though I was trying to bulk. I was eating around 3000 kcal a day and was losing fat ==> This never happened before. When I upped the calories little by little to 3750 - 3900, I finally found the level that gave me the best muscle/fat gain ratio, and after 3 weeks of this cycle, I gained 8 pounds. I estimate that it was 6 muscle / 2 fat. This has bumped up my weight from 187 to 195. (I have another 20 days supply or so, I didn't really count how many pills are left in the bottle as of today)
As of yesterday, I increased the dose to 6 caps/ day (yesterday was off) and today I had the weirdest sensation in my biceps. In the last rep of barbell curls, as I was pushing as hard as I can, I sensed the biceps contract so hard that it felt like a nuclear explosion was going on inside my arm. I have never had that sensation before. Also, all muscles felt so much fuller. I have no idea if increasing the dose from 1250 mg to 1500 mg can have such an effect in just 2 days. But I can only report what I have experienced. Similarly, it is odd that 1000 mg did nothing while 1250 did a lot; maybe 1000 mg was about to work when I had to stop.
Just as importantly, this compound seems extremely well suited to cutting. I am planning to dedicate the last 5-6 days on the XF cycle to cutting and think that I can lose 1 to 1.5 pounds of fat in that period alone. If all goes according to plan, this should leave me with a good gain in muscle and fairly small amount of fat to burn. All in all, so far this has been the best supplement I have used by far.
My suggestion to Molecular Nutrition: Ditch the 100 ct bottles and sell this thing in a 200 ct bottle for between 60 and 85 USD. As is, a lot of people are going to buy just one bottle to see if it works and then not be tempted enough to buy a second bottle. In my case it took some experimenting and then a good bump in calories to see serious muscle gain and some people may even need more accumulation of arachidonic acid and calorie adjustment. This way you may be selling just one bottle to a lot of people who never return to buy a second one. Get a bigger bottle, which would force people to persist and really see results....
Thanks to all
PS: I had originaly posted this a while ago on the other board and since then I have been continuing to take 6 caps a day with excellent results. No sides whatsoever. I feels like I am a tiny bit more prone to headaches as I have a tiny tiny amount of tension in my neck but it is so hot in here and excessive heat sometimes causes that. Even if the tension is entirely due to XF, I would say it is no problem at all as it easily goes away with a little bit of self-massage.
Since 6 caps is working so great, I would love to experiment with an even larger dose but for the time being that is way beyond my budget.
07-31-2006, 02:33 PM #1
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07-31-2006, 05:42 PM #5
i ordered xf and im going to start it on the 8, i have 1 and 1/2 bottles of it. should i take 3 pills a day or 4 becuase i want to gain as much lmm as possible but i dont want to have to order a new bottle. so what i was thinking was to take 3 pills a day with lots and lots of protein. does this sound good ?
07-31-2006, 08:13 PM #6
Originally Posted by steve39
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Did you change anything in your diet or training regimen or has everything stayed the same? Also what is your previous training experience? And how long have you been lifting seriously? What was your starting weight? I ask these, because I did not achieve anything on AA, I ran 1200 mg for 40 days. Thank you
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can't talk about steroids as I never took any, neither did I take pro-hormones
Also Protein is not a supplement in my view. You can supplement with additional protein but you obvioulsy would not want to live with zero protein and compare this to eating protein to see which is better for mass gain.
So other than those (steroids and protein) XF beats everything I have ever tried.
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08-01-2006, 06:46 PM #14Originally Posted by theram911
ive gained about 2...2.5lbs or so..but at the same time it seems ive lost bodyfat and my waist has shrunk too. its incredible too considering ive bumped up my caloric intake AND have been having some good cheat days as of late(summertime...cmon)
its amazing...WORTH EVERY SINGLE PENNY!
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08-10-2006, 02:39 PM #19Originally Posted by cheyuen
DROP THE 100. itll be the best benjamin uve ever spent. and im with sub 7 when he says its the best supp hes ever used..to date. as far as sides go..i noticed slightly more oily skin in the first week or so but its subsided...but the most prevalent side so far is the PUMPS(very VERY extreme pumps...dont take with NO product) and the DOMS.
DOMS is killlller on this stuff....guess its just doing its part to tell you its working
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08-12-2006, 06:12 AM #23
I took and I can say it great for reducing body fat. I did not gain size and strength, but I played like 10 hours of tennis a week when I was on X...sure it had something to do with it.
It is a chunk of change, and they are "gell caps" so if you travel don't try to take it on as carry on luggageThere is no such thing as overtraining. Only weak minds!
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08-13-2006, 01:12 AM #25
to everyone in here who has taken x-factor, how are the sides regarding joint problems. when it first came out some of the initial logs people reported joint pain. I had some problems but my shoulders but since taking cissus rx i have no more pain in my shoulders. if i could keep taking cissus during x factor i think i might give it a try.
08-16-2006, 02:23 PM #26
Ive been taking X factor for a week and i dont know if its normal for me to have joint pains already, but they're there. I was just riding my bike home from my gf and my knee joints hurt somewhat, and then suddenly i had a pain spike in my left knee it caused me to lose all power in it, i couldnt push with it anymore. that lasted about 10 seconds though luckily. Anyway thats what i have to report about joint pains. (Elbows are a little bit sour during bp aswell but nothing special)
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hey I got about 60 pills left of this stuff from a while back. How long do I take it for and what is the best dose to take?
6 pills a day for 50 days?Get swoll or die tryin!!! Light weight baby!!!
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hmm...ive always wanted to try XF...my question to those who have used it is...im almost ready for another cycle of test boosters..should i start XF now or should i wait until i can cycle again and just hop on animal test (which has AA and ive also herd is the ****)...opinions?
im assuming i should just wait.
04-05-2009, 10:23 PM #30