Designer Protein Whey VS Optimum Nutrition Whey

[digital1986]

I have been talking to a friend of mine about a couple proteins. Which protein has the better quality?


Next Designer Protein
Container Size: 2 Lbs.
Serving Size: 1 level scoop
Servings Per Container: 40

Amount Per Serving:

Total Calories 90
Calories From Fat 15
Total Fat 1.5 g 2*%
Saturated Fat 1 g 5*%
Cholesterol 30 mg 10*%
Sodium 60 mg 2*%
Potassium 90 mg 3*%
Total Carbohydrates 2 g 1*%
Dietary Fiber <1 g 4*%
Sugars <1 g
Protein 17.5 g 35*%

Calcium 100 mg 10%
Thiamin (B1) 1.13 mg 75%
Riboflavin (B2) 1.28 mg 75%
Pyridoxine (B6) 1.75 mg 88%
Cyanocobalamin (B12) 4.5 mcg 75%
Pantothenic Acid 7.5 mg 75%
Phosphorus 85 mg 9%
Magnesium 100 mg 25%
Zinc 5 mg 33%

Ingredients:
Designer Whey - Full spectrum whey peptides [modified molecular weight and partially pre-digested (hydrolyzed) whey protein concentrate, PDUF whey protein isolate, whey glutamine peptides (incl. natural glutamine peptides), taurine, l-leucine, l-phenylalanine], cocoa (treated with alkali), whey mineral complex, lecithin, natural and artificial chocolate flavor, glutasynth (l-glutamine, oligofructose, glutamine peptides), natural and artificial flavor, zinmag-6 (magnesium oxide, magnesium aspartate, zinc aspartate, pyridoxine), artificial peanut butter flavor, salt, cellulose gum, dried cream extract, xanthan gum, sodium alginate, artificial caramel flavor, acesulfame potassium, sucralose, vanillin, natural vitamin E (as mixed tocopherols), lactoperoxidase.

Optimum 100% Whey Protein
Container Size: 2 Lbs.
Serving Size: 1 Scoop
Servings Per Container: 31
Calories: 120
-Calories from Fat: 10
Total Fat: 1g
-Saturated Fat: 0.5g
Cholesterol: 30mg
Total Carbohydrates: 3g
-Sugars: 1g
Protein: 24g
Calcium: 140mg
Sodium: 60mg
Potassium: 220mg
Enzyme Blend: 25mg
-Aminogen --
-Lactase --

Other Ingredients:
Protein blend (whey protein isolate, whey protein concentrate, whey peptides), cocoa (processed with alkali), artifical flavor, lecithin, acesulfame potassium.

[lisaroberson2]

optimun all the way buddy the designer taste horrible

[E-Go]

ON is a much better value and bang for you buck. In terms of quaklity, they are both good brands. ON uses a bigger scoop (29g compared to 24g) so thats why it has more protein. But it also has less choelestral, sodium and fat than Designer

[punksurfer024]

cost effective is ON. but its more opinion then anything, my vote as always goes to ON.

[digital1986]

I really dont care about cost, I am talkign quality. I tried the chocolate out from Designer and I actually like the taste not to mention it blends very well.

[E-Go]

I really dont care about cost, I am talkign quality. I tried the chocolate out from Designer and I actually like the taste not to mention it blends very well.

But your talking apples to apples. Who knows what practices either company uses. I've never heard of anything ON doing being bad, but that's not the case for Next Proteins (who make Designer Whey). They got in trouble for mislabeling the fat and sugar content on the Detour bars after they came out and had to change the formula so its nowhere near the taste they had in the first couple of batches. Between those 2 choices, ON is my preferance.

[digital1986]

But your talking apples to apples. Who knows what practices either company uses. I've never heard of anything ON doing being bad, but that's not the case for Next Proteins (who make Designer Whey). They got in trouble for mislabeling the fat and sugar content on the Detour bars after they came out and had to change the formula so its nowhere near the taste they had in the first couple of batches. Between those 2 choices, ON is my preferance.

ON lies on there label also lol

The say there is glutamine in their protein, there is NO glutamine in protein. There is glutamic acid but there is no guarantee that will go into glutamine

[punksurfer024]

i only see 4 grams of glutamine and glutamine PRECURSORS. so as long as there is 1 gram of glutamine in that entire 5 pound tub then they are not mislabeling.

but ive honestly never seen lab reports of ON whey. do you have these??? id like to see them for my own knowledge.

[OneBetter]

designer whey vanilla and chocolate both taste like garbage IMO.

they sell it at wal mart/meijers for real cheap, i think it was the first protein i ever tried.

go with ON, more isolate and a small amount of digestive enzymes.

[Coulaid]

ON's i found the Choc Mint the best of the flavors.

[E-Go]

i only see 4 grams of glutamine and glutamine PRECURSORS. so as long as there is 1 gram of glutamine in that entire 5 pound tub then they are not mislabeling.

but ive honestly never seen lab reports of ON whey. do you have these??? id like to see them for my own knowledge.

Agreed on the first point, it says 4082 milligrams per scoop (aka 4.082 grams) of glutamine and precursors. Also, protein is made up of amino acids, when you intake 24 grams of protein like you do in ON, you intake 24 grams of Aminos. Add up the Amino profile on ON and I guarantee you will get 24 grams. You can't do this with Next's DW because they are one of the only companies that don't include an amino profile on the label. (I'm not telling you in particular, I'm making a broad generalization to anyone who doesn't realize this)

Are you asking me for the lab reports? Cuz I don't have any, never seen one for anything.

[punksurfer024]

im just saying its hard to condemn a company for mislabeling without proof.

[Phosphate bond]

Designer is mostly concentrate, but I like their strawberry (which last time I checked beats ON's strawberry)

ON is pretty much a sure bet as far as quality goes, but I wouldn't discount the whey concentrate on Designer (whatever concentrate they use it seems to be good quality stuff).

[Coulaid]

ON's i found the Choc Mint the best of the flavors.

[E-Go]

im just saying its hard to condemn a company for mislabeling without proof.

I agree and I'm not or have I said anything bad about ON, the other dude did. I talked about Next mislabeling their bars and getting in hot water because they did that. I know they did it, because my company sent out letters to the stores saying that was the reason it was on backorder. I'm with you 100% about false acusations

[punksurfer024]

opps sorry about that fallen for some reason when i saw your post i thought it was digital. my apoligies.

[E-Go]

opps sorry about that fallen for some reason when i saw your post i thought it was digital. my apoligies.

No prob man, I have the ability to run to a shelf and check something out when someone says something like that

[Anssi Manninen]

ON lies on there label also lol

The say there is glutamine in their protein, there is NO glutamine in protein. There is glutamic acid but there is no guarantee that will go into glutamine

There are both glutamine and glutamic acid in protein powders.

[rabidgymrat]

a good rule of thumb when comparing protein powders: calculate what the percentage of protein is in a single serving. for example say a single serving size is 100 grams, and out of those 100grams there are only 60 grams of protein..then you would have 60% protein. good proteins should be 75% and higher. The higher the protein percentage, the better and more pure the protein. in other words it means that the company didnt cut corners by leaving unnecessary impurities like lactose, ash, etc... during separation, filtration and purification.

[pu12en12g]

Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey for sure... Chocolate or Chocolate Mint

[Worldwide]

Designer Whey is great stuff IMO - I've used it for years. Skip the "natural" flavor and stick to vanilla praline, chocolate, or strawberry. I mix all my shakes with water and find that Designer tastes good and mixes well too. Something I can't say about other brands.

Seems ON has a solid following though. Probably can't go wrong with either.

[Phosphate bond]

How much is a Designer 5 lb'er now?

One thing about Designer is that it has added Magnesium and zinc along with some B-vitamins which is kind of nice. (although sometimes I just like straight protein)

If it wasn't for the strawberry I probably wouldn't even bother buying it. But I think taste is important and this fruit flavor they do is pretty good.

[E-Go]

How much is a Designer 5 lb'er now?

One thing about Designer is that it has added Magnesium and zinc along with some B-vitamins which is kind of nice. (although sometimes I just like straight protein)

If it wasn't for the strawberry I probably wouldn't even bother buying it. But I think taste is important and this fruit flavor they do is pretty good.

Next stopped making the 5lb bottle/jug of it. They now have a 3.5 lb box. I still have to go ON, because the fact that Next doesn't list the amino profile, but that's just me

[digital1986]

Next stopped making the 5lb bottle/jug of it. They now have a 3.5 lb box. I still have to go ON, because the fact that Next doesn't list the amino profile, but that's just me

All whey proteins have a Typical Amino Acid Profile, its just that ON makes a nice little box for it on its tub . . . so what.
Its funny how ON is always the top seller on this site and how most people think its just the greatest along with its quality. I cant go in the depth of what I was told. I will have him register and show you guys how Designer Whey is better quality then ON. He also has lab reports if I remember correctly, he is pretty insane with proteins.

[metalhead626]

ON hands down

[digital1986]

ON hands down

damn, you really supported what you just said by that great info posted

[metalhead626]

damn, you really supported what you just said by that great info posted

whatever dude, the info is already posted why should i have to do it again? im just telling you what the better one is based on my info and the caparison that the thread starter stated. the profiles are very similar and ON is dirt cheap and the chocolate tastes awesome, ok.. good enough for you?

[Black_Spit]

Next stopped making the 5lb bottle/jug of it. They now have a 3.5 lb box. I still have to go ON, because the fact that Next doesn't list the amino profile, but that's just me

They did, but, the Vitamin Shoppe's have just discontinued the 5 lb jugs... 50-75% off 5 lb jugs at your local Vitamin Shoppe.

[TheDukeUSMC]

I've had nothing but superios results with ON

Happy Pumping!

[E-Go]

All whey proteins have a Typical Amino Acid Profile, its just that ON makes a nice little box for it on its tub . . . so what.
Its funny how ON is always the top seller on this site and how most people think its just the greatest along with its quality. I cant go in the depth of what I was told. I will have him register and show you guys how Designer Whey is better quality then ON. He also has lab reports if I remember correctly, he is pretty insane with proteins.

OK fine, Designer is a better quality protein, but at least you know what Amino's your getting with ON. Oh, and Designer may be a quality protein, but Next is far from a quality company