Hamburgers vs. Chicken Sandwiches?

[RavensFan2k3]

When I say chicken sandwiches, I'm talking about breaded chicken. I was wondering which is better for you. Like which has more fat...but then which has more protein?

[utjock12]

depends on the cut of beef. for the most part they have about the same protein but the chicken is leaner.

[RavensFan2k3]

Ok in the case...lets say its fast food.

[utjock12]

both are usually pretty bad. most of the time the chicken is just stuffed full of preservatives and the beef is really fatty. choose the lesser evil though if you have to and go with chicken (no sauces).

or go to a sandwhich place.

[Elliptical Envy]

If you are looking at fast food get grilled chicken instead of breaded. Most fast food chicken contain a lot of extra sodium anyway so it really isn't the winner by much.

[RavensFan2k3]

Ok...since we're on the subject what are some places you guys would recommend if someone needed to eat fast good but wanted to stay healthy, and still get in alot of protein/carbs? I tried subway, but then I did some research on it and realized there food had no substance(didnt have alot of protein or carbs or anything) and even if it did, they dont even give you enough of it. I'm trying to stay away from fast food, but you know sometimes you have no choice and you need something cheap, so whats cheap high in protein and isnt too bad for me? Please dont say tuna, because I eat tuna but it doesnt taste very good and is hard to stomach...

[BIG_GUNZ666]

quiznos...get some turkey on there whole wheat bread with some vegetables no sauces, although their bread is probably fake whole wheat and made with enriched flour thats probably the best youll do

[Benneli_G]

hey at quiznos is the black angus steak good for you on wheat bread, or would the prime rib be better for ya ?????

quiznos...get some turkey on there whole wheat bread with some vegetables no sauces, although their bread is probably fake whole wheat and made with enriched flour thats probably the best youll do

[RavensFan2k3]

hey at quiznos is the black angus steak good for you on wheat bread, or would the prime rib be better for ya ?????

yeah wondering the same thing

[utjock12]

subway is still a ton better than any fast food joint. look for a better sandwhich shop like quiznos though, better ingredients.

[gobluevw]

fast food - go with the chicken as long as it is grilled and not fried

at home - lean ground beef has only slightly higher fat and cholesterol levels, so eat what you like more, switch it up even

[BigPappaSmurf]

I would say even the fattiest ground beef is better for you than deep fried chicken. In my opinion, deep fried carbs(flour) are one of the worst things you can consume. And don't even mention the trans fatty acids...

[acidburrito]

OK, eating "unhealthy" food doesn't make you fat, eating too many CALORIES makes you fat. This is assuming you dont do something retarded like drink 2500 cals of mountain dew or eat ONLY bacon to hit below maintenance.

As long as you're eating enough protein during the rest of the day, then worry more about not eating too many CALORIES when you get fast food, rather than focusing too much on where those cals are coming from, assuming you're worried about too much fat gain.

1000 cals of chicken and brown rice over your caloric target will get you just as fat as 1000 cals of big mac over your target.

With that being said, usually the "healthiest" as in "minimizing your fat gains while eating the occasional fast food meal" option would be whatever combo of items is closest to your caloric goals for that day. As long as you avoid trans-fats, anything should be gravy as long as it fits in your caloric goals for the day.

white flour vs wheat flour is a trivial GI difference, especially when you're eating that bread with a fat - heavy fast food meal. Fat and protein dramatically decrease the GI of the whole meal. Again, calories are the focus here, NOT the content.

[GymClassHero90]

1000 cals of chicken and brown rice over your caloric target will get you just as fat as 1000 cals of big mac over your target.

What a dumbass thing to say...

[triplewhammy]

I would say even the fattiest ground beef is better for you than deep fried chicken. In my opinion, deep fried carbs(flour) are one of the worst things you can consume. And don't even mention the trans fatty acids...

Agreed. The beef has a higher biological value, plus at least its fats are natural.


-Triple "red meat rocks!" Whammy

[chris3g]

What a dumbass thing to say...

it's 100% correct

[RavensFan2k3]

subway is still a ton better than any fast food joint. look for a better sandwhich shop like quiznos though, better ingredients.

Ok so quiznos is better than subway

fast food - go with the chicken as long as it is grilled and not fried

at home - lean ground beef has only slightly higher fat and cholesterol levels, so eat what you like more, switch it up even

Well I'm assuming breaded chicken(like a chicken patty) is fried, right?

I would say even the fattiest ground beef is better for you than deep fried chicken. In my opinion, deep fried carbs(flour) are one of the worst things you can consume. And don't even mention the trans fatty acids...

Is a chicken patty(breaded chicken) deep fried? Thats what the main question was about...So you're saying I'm better off getting a hamburger than eating a chicken sandwich(breaded chicken not grilled)?

[RavensFan2k3]

OK, eating "unhealthy" food doesn't make you fat, eating too many CALORIES makes you fat. This is assuming you dont do something retarded like drink 2500 cals of mountain dew or eat ONLY bacon to hit below maintenance.

As long as you're eating enough protein during the rest of the day, then worry more about not eating too many CALORIES when you get fast food, rather than focusing too much on where those cals are coming from, assuming you're worried about too much fat gain.

1000 cals of chicken and brown rice over your caloric target will get you just as fat as 1000 cals of big mac over your target.

With that being said, usually the "healthiest" as in "minimizing your fat gains while eating the occasional fast food meal" option would be whatever combo of items is closest to your caloric goals for that day. As long as you avoid trans-fats, anything should be gravy as long as it fits in your caloric goals for the day.

white flour vs wheat flour is a trivial GI difference, especially when you're eating that bread with a fat - heavy fast food meal. Fat and protein dramatically decrease the GI of the whole meal. Again, calories are the focus here, NOT the content.

I would say that calories are the most important thing when trying to gain weight or lose weight. But to say calories make you fat...I dont know. I workout, run, and practice is getting ready to start. So I'm sure if I dont eat over maintainence I'll be losing weight. I'd have to eat alot over maintainence to gain weight or maybe even to just maintain it. If all I ate all day was fast food, fried foods, and candy all day but I cant at my maintanence or below in calories, would I lose weight? But if I ate perfectly healthy(if it were possible) and I ate over maintainance, would I gain weight?

[chris3g]

I would say that calories are the most important thing when trying to gain weight or lose weight. But to say calories make you fat...I dont know. I workout, run, and practice is getting ready to start. So I'm sure if I dont eat over maintainence I'll be losing weight. I'd have to eat alot over maintainence to gain weight or maybe even to just maintain it. If all I ate all day was fast food, fried foods, and candy all day but I cant at my maintanence or below in calories, would I lose weight? But if I ate perfectly healthy(if it were possible) and I ate over maintainance, would I gain weight?

yes and yes, but it'd be extremely difficult to eat fast food all day long and still be at or under maintenance because of the calorie density of those foods. Take a look at this - http://www.truthinfitness.org/projec...s/journal.html

[acidburrito]

Props for posting that, chris.

It's hilarious how people treat oats, chicken breast, and "healthy" food as if they were composed of some sort of magical "my body can't store this as bodyfat" calories.

calorie surplus = weight gain

calorie deficit = weight loss

eating healthy may or may not contribute in a significant way to how much gained/lost is muscle vs fat. but that's another debate.

[BIG_GUNZ666]

it is not all about calories in vs calories out because healthy foods such as oats ,chicken, vegetables, fruit, and olive oil all make your body run much more smoothly eating 1000 cal over your limit with fast food would be 1 million times worse than eating 1000 cal over with chicken and brown rice because if you have a solid workout plan the chicken and brown rice will help you put on muscle while you would most likely still put on a slight amount of fat but if your eating 1000 cal over with big mac's and fries theyre going to do nothing for you but add fat and increase your sodium intake making your water retention go higher also making you more bloated making you look even fatter than you are and since your muscles would not be getting high quality nutrients like they would be from the brown rice and chicken your muscles wouldnt be growing theyd probably be breaking down while your body is gaining fat.....in other words cut out all fast food its the easiest way to go make your own lunch this way you know what your getting at all times

[cardman]

Qudoba or Moe's SOuthwest Grill is the healthiest thing you can eat fast food wise. Get a burrito with chicken and beans and some vegetables and you are set. Dont know if these are located nationally abut they are very healthy choices.