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    Best Night Time Protein?

    In your opinion what is the best night time Protein?
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    I've had a pretty good experience with MuscleMilk so far. Mocha Joe flavor contains caffeine, so I'd stay away from that. Cookies and Cream is good.
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    The Matrix 5.0 perfect choclate is really good if you want one with out the fat and calories that Muscle Milk has.
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    Ultra Peptide hands down
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    you'd want any protein whose main source is casein protein. right now there are only a handful of options, ultra peptide probably being the best.

    on has a 100% casein but i hear the flavor might suck.

    i know DS just asked for testers for sustain which is a casein blend as well.

    just look for casein as the main protein.
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    Originally Posted by nni
    you'd want any protein whose main source is casein protein. right now there are only a handful of options, ultra peptide probably being the best.

    on has a 100% casein but i hear the flavor might suck.

    i know DS just asked for testers for sustain which is a casein blend as well.

    just look for casein as the main protein.
    indeed, ON casein tastes like ass
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    Originally Posted by Seth25
    Ultra Peptide hands down

    I agree, UP is excellent.

    I'm currently using Ergopharm's Mass Meal at one scoop before bed. I'm looking to gain some weight and this stuff tastes excellent.



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    Matrix seems good cuz the price is right...

    How does it taste?

    I am currently using ON Casein and I basically have to focus and tell myself not to gag...
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    Muscle Milk worked great for me when i was Bulking. Also Cottage Cheese is great before bed.
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    Originally Posted by Seth25
    Ultra Peptide hands down
    Yep, and it "probably" contains more casein than Matrix 5.0


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    OP Matrix 5.0, is not really the way to go because of price, because it has more whey than casein, and Synthrax will not disclose how much actual casein protein is in it. So right there it makes me scratch my head.
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    Originally Posted by ForceLineBacker
    Yep, and it "probably" contains more casein than Matrix 5.0
    change that to definitely
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    Originally Posted by nyg99
    Matrix seems good cuz the price is right...

    How does it taste?

    I am currently using ON Casein and I basically have to focus and tell myself not to gag...
    The taste is not bad from what I hear do a search in the review section and you will see plenty of reviews on it.
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    Originally Posted by nyg99
    Matrix seems good cuz the price is right...

    How does it taste?

    I am currently using ON Casein and I basically have to focus and tell myself not to gag...
    Matrix is a great nighttime protein, and like someone else said - if you want to read reviews on the taste, just do a search - people love the Chocolate flavor, and also the Orange Cream flavor. It has casein, whey, and egg white protein (it also contains glutamine peptides). So it's certainly not 100% casein, but is a great mix of a few different protein types some of which digest quickly ... so with the mix of fast acting and longer lasting protein sources, it is ideal for any time, especially morning and night when you want some casein.
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    I think the taste of the Ultra Peptide is as good as any protein I've tasted. I'm not a big fan of the way ON protein tastes.
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    I have tried the Matrix Orange Cream and I can atest to the flavor, that stuff is truley amazing. I have been using it for a night time protien for about two weeks now.
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    Originally Posted by bengoshi
    I think the taste of the Ultra Peptide is as good as any protein I've tasted. I'm not a big fan of the way ON protein tastes.
    I use the vanilla if you want it to taste even better try this
    1 scoop UP
    2 cups milk
    1/4 cup almonds
    1 tbsp flax oil
    UNBELIEVABLE TASTE !!!!!!!!
    I don't know how that will taste with chocolate but its the bomb with vanilla.
    I also don't think ON's casien is that bad tasting either.
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    Seth try putting a couple ice cubes in with that. I imagine chocolate would be very good too
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    Well if I got time I put it in the freezer and get it frosty, tastes almost like an ice cream shake but then again its been years since I've had a real shake so I don't know if I can honestly compare
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    On casien with skim milk and icecubes = A great tasting shake.
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    Originally Posted by nyg99
    Matrix seems good cuz the price is right...

    How does it taste?

    I am currently using ON Casein and I basically have to focus and tell myself not to gag...
    You are in for a treat if you check out the Orange Cream Matrix 5.0. I can't get enough of the Orange Cream. I have been hooked on it ever since it came out. It taste just like the push ups you used to get when you were a kid.
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    Originally Posted by SI03 Board Rep
    You are in for a treat if you check out the Orange Cream Matrix 5.0. I can't get enough of the Orange Cream. I have been hooked on it ever since it came out. It taste just like the push ups you used to get when you were a kid.
    What do you mix it with usually?
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    Originally Posted by ForceLineBacker
    Yep, and it "probably" contains more casein than Matrix 5.0


    EDIT:
    OP Matrix 5.0, is not really the way to go because of price, because it has more whey than casein, and Synthrax will not disclose how much actual casein protein is in it. So right there it makes me scratch my head.
    This is standard pratice in the industry. Try asking Met-rx what is in their blend, what is the ratio in VPX's micellean or in San infusion. Companies need to protect their development costs, otherwise take-offs would spring up as usual.
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    Originally Posted by BiggJohn
    This is standard pratice in the industry. Try asking Met-rx what is in their blend, what is the ratio in VPX's micellean or in San infusion. Companies need to protect their development costs, otherwise take-offs would spring up as usual.
    I understand that, but as the customer, I'd rather not waste my time with something that I have no idea with what's in it. With XF UP, I know what is in it and I know what I am getting. No contest to me.


    Also, I really do not see how saying what percentage of casein is in it would hurt? No company can copy just off that info. My guess, and I would ask you to correct me if I am wrong (but alas you cannot as it is a "secret"), but I believe that Matrix 5.0 does not have enough casein to be classified as a true bedtime protein, and is really just an "anytime" protein.
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    The question is ultrapeptide or MPI? Which is better!
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    ON casein isn't bad if you mix it with milk.

    i tried using water and i had to spit it out
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    Originally Posted by Spaniard00
    In your opinion what is the best night time Protein?
    Micellean, Infusion and plain MC
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    Originally Posted by ForceLineBacker
    I understand that, but as the customer, I'd rather not waste my time with something that I have no idea with what's in it. With XF UP, I know what is in it and I know what I am getting. No contest to me.


    Also, I really do not see how saying what percentage of casein is in it would hurt? No company can copy just off that info. My guess, and I would ask you to correct me if I am wrong (but alas you cannot as it is a "secret"), but I believe that Matrix 5.0 does not have enough casein to be classified as a true bedtime protein, and is really just an "anytime" protein.
    I have asked SI03 about this and they have assured me that it has ample amounts of casien to be effective as a nighttime protien. If this is not good enough for you then ok, but I am very satisfied with the product my self.
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