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sports & asthma
hey guys. i play indoor and outdoor soccer so i do alot of running and i also do some MMA. problem is that i have asthma so i can get winded pretty quickly. i wanted to see if theres anyone else with the same problem who could recomend a specific medication that works really well with excersise induced asthma. I currently take albuterol 10 minutes before a game...and sometimes i'll take a hit during in case im pretty ****ed up. but i really dont feel much of a benefit from it. my alergist is a pussy and just tells me to take it easy. **** that.
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07-13-2006, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by blooeyez
hey guys. i play indoor and outdoor soccer so i do alot of running and i also do some MMA. problem is that i have asthma so i can get winded pretty quickly. i wanted to see if theres anyone else with the same problem who could recomend a specific medication that works really well with excersise induced asthma. I currently take albuterol 10 minutes before a game...and sometimes i'll take a hit during in case im pretty ****ed up. but i really dont feel much of a benefit from it. my alergist is a pussy and just tells me to take it easy. **** that.
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Fellow asthmatic...yes!!!
Please, please don't listen to your allergist.
I played 4 years of college basketball, have competed in various "sprint" triatholons, etc, etc.
Please don't let asthma get you down. I would highly suggest you look into a preventative inhaler called Advair. It's purple and looks like a hockey puck. It's not cheap, but most health insrance does cover some/most of it. You take it in the morning and about dinner time.
I use Alburterol as well. It's never worked to prevent attacks for me, just to alleviate them.
Advair - ask your doctor about it.
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07-13-2006, 06:05 PM
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dude, i have athsma aswell, never listen to people who say you cant do things, just never give up and your lungs will loosen up, i havent had a coughing fit in about 2 years, when i did have them i used symbicort 200 puffer,
never stop yourself from doing things if you think youll get sick, because thats not a winners attitude, athsma is overcomable, you just have to stay active
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07-14-2006, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by EDM4LIFE
dude, i have athsma aswell, never listen to people who say you cant do things, just never give up and your lungs will loosen up, i havent had a coughing fit in about 2 years, when i did have them i used symbicort 200 puffer,
never stop yourself from doing things if you think youll get sick, because thats not a winners attitude, athsma is overcomable, you just have to stay active
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Um, your lungs just don't "loosen" up with asthma. It's a disease that has to be treated with medication. It's a chronic diagnosis that does not just go away. There is no cure, but can be managed with medication
Asthma is not being "sick"- it has nothing to do with a winners attitude.
If you haven't had a "coughing fit" in about 2 years, I'm guessing you have a very very mild case of asthma, if asthma at all. When I have an attack (mine is athletically and allergically induced) I can't breathe...at all. It's not about coughing. Most chronic asthmatics, like myself, take medication 3-4 times a day.
It's not something you "fight thru". It has to be managed with medication.
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07-14-2006, 10:13 AM
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i play football(american) in the midwest so it gets pretty cold and i have chronic asthma but before practice take 2 shots of Alburterol, and it practically goes away but be careful not OD cuz ive taken 4 times in an hour cuz it was that bad and i couldn't even practice cuz i was too busy ****ting.
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07-14-2006, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Clipps
Fellow asthmatic...yes!!!
Please, please don't listen to your allergist.
I played 4 years of college basketball, have competed in various "sprint" triatholons, etc, etc.
Please don't let asthma get you down. I would highly suggest you look into a preventative inhaler called Advair. It's purple and looks like a hockey puck. It's not cheap, but most health insrance does cover some/most of it. You take it in the morning and about dinner time.
I use Alburterol as well. It's never worked to prevent attacks for me, just to alleviate them.
Advair - ask your doctor about it.
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not to worry clips, i will never listen to my alergist. at least about taking it easy. i cant live without sports. anywho, i DID try advair last year.My alergist gave me a sample last year and come to think of it, it worked. i just never went back for a prescription. I must have figured it was my conditioning that had gotten better, instead of the advair working. stupid me. i have good insurance so thankfuly price is not an issue. im setting up an apointment asap. thanks.
ps: anyone tried clenbuterol to manage their asthma? i know its banned, but its certainly attainable.
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07-14-2006, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pwrlifter21
i play football(american) in the midwest so it gets pretty cold and i have chronic asthma but before practice take 2 shots of Alburterol, and it practically goes away but be careful not OD cuz ive taken 4 times in an hour cuz it was that bad and i couldn't even practice cuz i was too busy ****ting.
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Since when does OD-ing make you ****? I highly HIGHLY doubt you can OD on Albuterol. I'm taken it way more than 4 times in an hour before. Nor does it stunt your growth as some others claim. I've been using it since I was about 5.
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07-14-2006, 03:02 PM
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DO NOT USE ADVAIR for exercise induced asthma. it contains an ingriedient that while helping to fight the onset of sudden attacks will slowly make you asthma worse and that is exactly the opposite of what you need if your asthma is only triggered by exercise.
Also its true that you should avoid taking abuterol much more than is recommended ( if you are having an emergency then take it but dont just puff it every time out) not because it will make you **** ( dont know what thats about) but because it contains stimulants that will well overstimulate you. during wrestling season i am often forced to use my inhaler many times a day at tournaments (we're talking like 10+ puffs) and i get shaky and weak and hypervenilate which makes the asthma worse so you should avoid that.
another important warning to you is that these people who are saying to you never give into it and that asthma is totally overcomeable could be dead wrong. personally i follow the same policy but you should know your own limits and judge when to stop by that rather than worring about having a winners attitude.
as far as medicines i used albuterol but was switched to maxair and find that it works about the same, maybe ever so slightly better, and is easier to use because it triggers automatically when you breath in rather than shooting all over your tongue.
another thing that may help you is to see an a new allergist and start taking shots of alergy extracts. if your asthma is at all related to or if you suffer from allergies this will almost certainly alliviate your asthma.
breathing exercises also help things like steady breathing from the diaphram. personally i try to take one full breath in and out about every two seconds but you will have to decide whats right for you as it depends on many personal factors. also experiment with breathing through your nose and mouth at the same time it will help you to open up all your passages if you can do it properly.
asthma sufferers often also suffer from post nasal drip (snot and nasty slimy goo in your nose and throat) which can farther clog your air ways up. avoid things like milk that make spit and mucus thicker and drink plenty of water. also i would take a drink of water after you drink your gatorade cause it has the same effect for most people. and keep your nose and throught cleaned out properly
hope thats not to long to read
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07-14-2006, 03:13 PM
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A daily Singular pill has helped my asthma. I have an albuterol inhaler that my doc gave me but she said that if I ever get to where I use my inhaler every day I can switch to a daily inhaled steroid asthma inhaler.
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07-14-2006, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Clipps
Fellow asthmatic...yes!!!
Please, please don't listen to your allergist.
I played 4 years of college basketball, have competed in various "sprint" triatholons, etc, etc.
Please don't let asthma get you down. I would highly suggest you look into a preventative inhaler called Advair. It's purple and looks like a hockey puck. It's not cheap, but most health insrance does cover some/most of it. You take it in the morning and about dinner time.
I use Alburterol as well. It's never worked to prevent attacks for me, just to alleviate them.
Advair - ask your doctor about it.
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I used to take advair and it worked very well. The only problem I had was that it made me tired and I felt like taking a nap most of the time. I never really noticed it untill I stopped taking it. I'm not sure if this will happen to you but just remember to stay pumbed up so your not tired on the field.
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07-14-2006, 04:24 PM
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i have like dormant asthma but idk i just used 2 meditate focus on my breathing seemed 2 strengthen my lungs
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07-14-2006, 09:57 PM
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If you want to know how to fix it:
I used to have exercise induced asthma.. maybe some types are different but I definately fixed mine as have many others using this method. Do not knock it until you try it. Remember that the pharmacutical industry is privately owned and they want you taking there medication for life as its worth billions. My asthma was caused from overbreathing. When you overbreathe the carbon dioxide levels in ur blood get too low so your lungs and respiratory system try and counter this. Its your bodies self defense mechanism by tightening your all your airways etc. to restrict your breathing in order to prevent anymore loss of CO2 from ur blood.
Asthmatics tend to chronicly overbreath, practise under breathing, so u feel a slight need for oxygen, even just sitting there on the computer, eventually your body and brain adjusts to new breathing rate and the CO2 levels of your blood will return to normal. When you are doing cardio work do NOT focus on breathing and trying to breathe more !!! Its a NATURAL process. Never try and breathe more.
google buteyko for more info..you never have to pay anything there is heaps of free info... It' on wikipedia aswell.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buteyko
This definately fixed my exercise induced asthma 100% and I used to have it pretty severe.
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07-15-2006, 02:13 PM
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what about ventolin?? it's the safest inhaler i think and works pretty well.
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07-15-2006, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cool
DO NOT USE ADVAIR for exercise induced asthma. it contains an ingriedient that while helping to fight the onset of sudden attacks will slowly make you asthma worse and that is exactly the opposite of what you need if your asthma is only triggered by exercise.
Also its true that you should avoid taking abuterol much more than is recommended ( if you are having an emergency then take it but dont just puff it every time out) not because it will make you **** ( dont know what thats about) but because it contains stimulants that will well overstimulate you. during wrestling season i am often forced to use my inhaler many times a day at tournaments (we're talking like 10+ puffs) and i get shaky and weak and hypervenilate which makes the asthma worse so you should avoid that.
another important warning to you is that these people who are saying to you never give into it and that asthma is totally overcomeable could be dead wrong. personally i follow the same policy but you should know your own limits and judge when to stop by that rather than worring about having a winners attitude.
as far as medicines i used albuterol but was switched to maxair and find that it works about the same, maybe ever so slightly better, and is easier to use because it triggers automatically when you breath in rather than shooting all over your tongue.
another thing that may help you is to see an a new allergist and start taking shots of alergy extracts. if your asthma is at all related to or if you suffer from allergies this will almost certainly alliviate your asthma.
breathing exercises also help things like steady breathing from the diaphram. personally i try to take one full breath in and out about every two seconds but you will have to decide whats right for you as it depends on many personal factors. also experiment with breathing through your nose and mouth at the same time it will help you to open up all your passages if you can do it properly.
asthma sufferers often also suffer from post nasal drip (snot and nasty slimy goo in your nose and throat) which can farther clog your air ways up. avoid things like milk that make spit and mucus thicker and drink plenty of water. also i would take a drink of water after you drink your gatorade cause it has the same effect for most people. and keep your nose and throught cleaned out properly
hope thats not to long to read
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That Advair "side effect" mention is a load of ****. I've taken Advair for about 3 years now. Please tell me the "ingredient" that triggers asthma....because I think you pulled that out of your ass. I've used Fordil, Aerobid and Azmachort and Advair is far better than any controller inhaler I've ever used.
Medication reacts differently to different people. To the person above that said it may fatigue you, I've never experienced that...ever. So I can't help you there.
I've used both Maxair, Albuterol and Preventul. They are basically all the same cocktail.
My mom has been a pharmacist for about 30 years. I don't pretend to know a lot about other diseases, but ashthma is something I know.
I wouldn't listen to anyone here. Some medications work great for some, less for others. I'm a chronic athletically and allergic sufferer...and have a very strong case of it at that.
Go see a resperatory specialist. Don't listen to the clowns in here.
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07-16-2006, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cool
DO NOT USE ADVAIR for exercise induced asthma. it contains an ingriedient that while helping to fight the onset of sudden attacks will slowly make you asthma worse and that is exactly the opposite of what you need if your asthma is only triggered by exercise.
Also its true that you should avoid taking abuterol much more than is recommended ( if you are having an emergency then take it but dont just puff it every time out) not because it will make you **** ( dont know what thats about) but because it contains stimulants that will well overstimulate you. during wrestling season i am often forced to use my inhaler many times a day at tournaments (we're talking like 10+ puffs) and i get shaky and weak and hypervenilate which makes the asthma worse so you should avoid that.
another important warning to you is that these people who are saying to you never give into it and that asthma is totally overcomeable could be dead wrong. personally i follow the same policy but you should know your own limits and judge when to stop by that rather than worring about having a winners attitude.
as far as medicines i used albuterol but was switched to maxair and find that it works about the same, maybe ever so slightly better, and is easier to use because it triggers automatically when you breath in rather than shooting all over your tongue.
another thing that may help you is to see an a new allergist and start taking shots of alergy extracts. if your asthma is at all related to or if you suffer from allergies this will almost certainly alliviate your asthma.
breathing exercises also help things like steady breathing from the diaphram. personally i try to take one full breath in and out about every two seconds but you will have to decide whats right for you as it depends on many personal factors. also experiment with breathing through your nose and mouth at the same time it will help you to open up all your passages if you can do it properly.
asthma sufferers often also suffer from post nasal drip (snot and nasty slimy goo in your nose and throat) which can farther clog your air ways up. avoid things like milk that make spit and mucus thicker and drink plenty of water. also i would take a drink of water after you drink your gatorade cause it has the same effect for most people. and keep your nose and throught cleaned out properly
hope thats not to long to read
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when posting something like that you really need to cite sources. saying an asthma medication will actually make your condition worsen sounds like it is fresh from your ass. i was taking advair with albuterol when needed for 2 years because of my sports asthma and i don't even need any of them any more.
the best things i can reccommend are advair, pre-loading with albuterol about a half hour before activity (advised by my doctor), and learining how to control your breathing. they are all pretty much self explanitory.
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07-16-2006, 04:42 PM
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when posting something like that you really need to cite sources. saying an asthma medication will actually make your condition worsen sounds like it is fresh from your ass. i was taking advair with albuterol when needed for 2 years because of my sports asthma and i don't even need any of them any more.
the best things i can reccommend are advair, pre-loading with albuterol about a half hour before activity (advised by my doctor), and learining how to control your breathing. they are all pretty much self explanitory.
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07-16-2006, 11:55 PM
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advair actually does work when my asthma was bad i liked it better then albuertol
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12-15-2006, 10:14 PM
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i've suffered from asthma since i was born due to being premature by 3 months i think. I've used ventolin to treat it and recently i've used seretide as a preventer. Ventolin works well to treat an attack. When i first started using Seretide work extremely well i could play sport etc. without problems. Its effectivness has worn off slightly but it still does a better job than if i wasn't taking it at all.
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12-15-2006, 11:36 PM
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it's kind of comforting to see fellow asthmatics
I have asthma and play baseball and wrestle and my asthma really affects me at times. I get winded really quickly when it comes to cardio like running.
I'm currently using advair and it seems to be helping a little
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12-15-2006, 11:42 PM
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Hi guys, I've heard a lot of success stories of people using our Cordygen5 product to relieve asthma related symptoms during sporting events and working out. Email us for free samples if you'd like.
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If you want to know how to fix it:
I used to have exercise induced asthma.. maybe some types are different but I definately fixed mine as have many others using this method. Do not knock it until you try it. Remember that the pharmacutical industry is privately owned and they want you taking there medication for life as its worth billions. My asthma was caused from overbreathing. When you overbreathe the carbon dioxide levels in ur blood get too low so your lungs and respiratory system try and counter this. Its your bodies self defense mechanism by tightening your all your airways etc. to restrict your breathing in order to prevent anymore loss of CO2 from ur blood.
google buteyko for more info..you never have to pay anything there is heaps of free info... It' on wikipedia aswell.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buteyko
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you have some false physiology going on in this post.
for normal, healthy human beings, the body relies on the co2 levels in your blood to determine the amount of oxygen needed (less co2, more o2). what happens when you exercize is the co2 levels INCREASE as you are using more oxygen, and needing an even higher supply. to compensate for this, the medulla oblongota (sp?) tells the heart to pump and the body to breathe faster thus increasing perfusion (aka oxygen supply) to the brain. for most asthmatics this is basically causing them to hyperventilate and in many cases also has mucous build up and constriction in the bronchioles. MDI (metered dose inhalers) like albueterol or advair help dialate the airways and help deliver more oxygen due to increased volume in the passage ways.
so to reiterate incase i lost somebody, the normal human body relies on CO2 levels in the blood (basically lack of oxygen molecules) to determine how to breathe and the appropriate heart rate (hypoxic drive). exercize increases the level of co2 which tells the body to breathe faster and basically end up hyperventilating yourself. controlled breathing is key for ANY asthmatic, especially during an attack. if this does not completely control the situation, then meds are needed.
if you plan on being successful in school or just plain want to prove a point, dont ever cite wikipedia as a source. it is a highly unreliable source, no matter how legit it may look.
and just an FYI, many people like smokers and Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD) patients end up losing this mechanism and have to revert to the backup system which measures the levels of oxygen in the blood (o2^ breathing down, vice versa). in the emergency medical field it is possible to actually kill a person by giving them too much oxygen because the body will see too high of levels, but of course this is a very long process and takes at least 6-8 hours to develop, so its really nothing to worry about.
as i said before, premedicating is probably the best thing to do if you have this condition.
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I have much of the same experience. I am a tennis player, though I do bodybuilding both for the positive effect it has on my game and because I like the sport itself.
I play tennis at quite a high level, but I found that after the fourth or fifth stroke in a rally, I would start to get the SYMPTOMS, but not an actual asthma attack, just the general feeling of breathlessness. I went to doctors, who checked everything, heart, etc., but seemed unsure how to treat it (they said: give up the tennis!).
When I was in Russia, I was working with the sports trainer of super-heavyweight boxer Nikolai Valuev. He suggested homeopathic tablets and a device they have called the Kuznetsov applicator (which is a little like acupuncture - it is a cloth with sharp plastic pins that you attach to your chest). This seemed to work, as this summer I had no problems (I also found that when I practice ran with the applicator, it was like I had wings, I felt I could run forever and never tire).
But two months ago, in early October, I had to play in Prague and when I hit my very first ball, it all came back and is still with me now. I have overcome so much to get back into tennis after injury, so I am in complete despair, especially as I feel that I can be a great sportsman - if only I could get rid of this thing. I can only compare it to the story of Sinbad and the Old Man of the Sea - I feel I am carrying someone on my shoulders, something that has its grip on me and will not let go.
I am a bit averse to what medication to choose as I have this innate fear of steroids, yet I feel I need something radical designed purely for sportsmen, i.e. no whimpy half-measures. I am worrying so much that I am even now getting some of the symptoms outside sport!
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