IS there anyone here who used SCORCH alone and not stacked it with Vaporize?

noypi · 07-11-2006, 10:31 AM

I mean.. is it really a must? Cause i just ordered 2 bottles of scorch man, does this mean that scorch wouldnt be effective without vaporize? cause i used the last of my money to order animal pak. the shipping to guam costs more than $20. bummer!

nni · 07-11-2006, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by noypi

I mean.. is it really a must? Cause i just ordered 2 bottles of scorch man, does this mean that scorch wouldnt be effective without vaporize? cause i used the last of my money to order animal pak. the shipping to guam costs more than $20. bummer!

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umm, yeah, umm, they are effective on their own. don't know where you got that.

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noypi · 07-12-2006, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nni

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umm, yeah, umm, they are effective on their own. don't know where you got that.

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cause i read that scorch preferrably be stacked with vaporize. so i was just owndering if anyone here was able to use it alone and get results.

NATHAN518 · 07-13-2006, 12:07 AM

you don't have to take vaporize with scorch...but, i would highly suggest that you are at least taking fish oil with it...sesamin is certainly not necessary

noypi · 07-13-2006, 08:02 AM

I am actually.. how much dosage do you reccomend? actually, one of the reasons why i didnt get scorch is because i read the active ingredients and it felt like i could get those from natural sources. as for the fish oil, i take 1 soft gel a day would that be enough? I'm still waiting for bb.com's shipment tho.

dwm230000 · 07-13-2006, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by noypi

I mean.. is it really a must? Cause i just ordered 2 bottles of scorch man, does this mean that scorch wouldnt be effective without vaporize? cause i used the last of my money to order animal pak. the shipping to guam costs more than $20. bummer!

Both Scorch and Vaporize will both be effective on their own. Here are a couple logs and reviews from people that used or are using Scorch without Vaporize if you want to check them out.

Scorch Review

LancerV's AMP/Scorch/Dicana Log

Uhockey Reviews MAN SCORCH V3

Sixpack · 07-13-2006, 12:40 PM

Scorch is one of the best used with vaporize or without it.

PieEyedPiper · 07-13-2006, 02:23 PM

I loved Scorch V1. I imagine V2 is only better.

Also you will want to aim for 1gram of EPA a day, so thats going to be about 6 fish oil pills daily, evenly spread.

noypi · 07-15-2006, 07:04 PM

great dude! i actually take 1 softget daily, hehe.. i guess im gona have to up my dosage when i start to use scorch in 2 weeks. anyone here who used it with animal pak?

its also my first time to use animal pak.. I liked the reviews about its performance enhancing abilities, but a lot of people say they get hooked.. is this true?

TimoteoS · 07-15-2006, 07:14 PM

Scorch is the real deal. My love, but I have to say Ive been using the new CAMP by USP LABS and after two bottles of Scorch I may have to break up with her.

LJ57 · 07-15-2006, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PieEyedPiper

I loved Scorch V1. I imagine V2 is only better.

Also you will want to aim for 1gram of EPA a day, so thats going to be about 6 fish oil pills daily, evenly spread.

I think they're up to Vol. 3 (Remix) It looks like a solid product.

young_squatter · 07-15-2006, 07:42 PM

I took scorch without vaporize and loved the results, I was also taking sesamin and fish oil at this time as well though. But scorch is one of my favs.

Dublo · 07-15-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by noypi

great dude! i actually take 1 softget daily, hehe.. i guess im gona have to up my dosage when i start to use scorch in 2 weeks. anyone here who used it with animal pak?

I'd be guessing that one soft gell is 1000 milligrams of fish oil. You should be aiming for about 6000 milligrams (6 grams) a day.

rizoN17 · 07-15-2006, 09:06 PM

If I take Scorch, but also fishoils/CLA's, do I really need vaporize?

TheUnlikelyToad · 07-15-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rizoN17

If I take Scorch, but also fishoils/CLA's, do I really need vaporize?

You don't need anything but a solid routine and a good diet.

Sesamin's effects as a standalone are far more appearant than just fish oil IMO.

If you are already somewhat lean, Scorch will do.

solarize · 07-16-2006, 01:08 AM

Scorch is da bomb, very potent. Can be run solo, or with vaporize for a 1,2 combo.

Scorch with Eph is knarly also. Very cool, probably not recommeded by MAN though

dwm230000 · 07-16-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by solarize

Scorch with Eph is knarly also. Very cool, probably not recommeded by MAN though

Actually, it is fine with the new version of Scorch(not recommended with the previous version due to the tyramine content). We've had a couple people run logs on the combo.

Chronic's MAN Scorch Remix/Vaporize/Ephedrine Log

gresh's MAN Scorch v.3 / Vaporize / Ephedrine Gel Log

wantstobeinshap · 07-16-2006, 12:23 PM

scorch v1 didn't do much for me, v2 was awesome, got me down to 7%bf. I'm going to be finished with my bulk at the end of august and i'm going to give v3 a go. V3 can only be better and I got sweet results with only 1 bottle of V2. Lets not forget though that you still gotta work hard for it! Just Scorch should be fine...

noypi · 07-16-2006, 06:09 PM

wow.. those are great news! can't wait for my scorch to arrive.

I am also in the process of gradually increasing my fishoil dosage to 3 softgels a day, so that when scorch arrives ill be able to take 6and i noticed that i am already losing weight.. especially if i take the last softgel before i go to bed. just an observation.. could be water loss.. but its noticeable..

noypi · 07-23-2006, 06:39 PM

hey guys! ive been using scorch and animal pak plus 6 softgels of fishoil.. and it really worcked. Im glad i stayed away from lipo 6. <--- the gugulsterone issue

After 1 week, ive already lost 2% bf. damn! maybe its the 45 minute twice a day cardio, but still.. I always feel the burn after taking scorch. the best ive used so far since the original hydroxycut with ephedra.

and i dont have a hard time sleeping also which is great..

TheUnlikelyToad · 07-23-2006, 11:21 PM

This is my recent transformation from my 10-week cut along with Drewkowski and zachattach43.

Supplements used:

Scorch, Body Octane + Orotine, and Vaporize (Last 5 weeks)

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noypi · 08-28-2006, 08:15 AM

lost 26 lbs already.. and gettin ripped. ill post pictures soon..

i noticed a side effect though.. i was itching.. and had bumps on my skin, kinda loke goose bumps.. could this disappear after the cycle? got rashes on my neck, nape and tummy.. it can become uncomfortable sometimes.. and the chickn skin like appearance is just nasty..

dwm230000 · 08-28-2006, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by noypi

lost 26 lbs already.. and gettin ripped. ill post pictures soon..

i noticed a side effect though.. i was itching.. and had bumps on my skin, kinda loke goose bumps.. could this disappear after the cycle? got rashes on my neck, nape and tummy.. it can become uncomfortable sometimes.. and the chickn skin like appearance is just nasty..

Congrats on your results. That is a lot of weight loss pretty quickly.

The itching/flushing is most likely due to the Xanthinol Nicotinate. It is pretty common among users and should stop when you finish the Scorch.

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Xanthinol Nicotinate

Xanthinol Nicotinate (XN) is a form of niacin that passes through the cell membranes. It is the most effective form of niacin available. XN stimulates memory and concentration by improving the brain's blood flow and has been shown to increase brain glucose metabolism, improve brain ATP levels and act as a vasodilator. This explains its ability to improve brain blood flow. XN (like Niacin) can cause a flushing of the skin and a sense of warmth. It has consequently been suggested that XN can aid weight control through water loss.

young_squatter · 08-28-2006, 09:37 AM

You would see good results with just scorch, scorch is one of the best fat burners on the market when combiined with a proper diet and training program. I personally stacked it with sesamin and fish oil, which is what vaporize is and saw nice results.

TimoteoS · 08-28-2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by young_squatter

You would see good results with just scorch, scorch is one of the best fat burners on the market when combiined with a proper diet and training program. I personally stacked it with sesamin and fish oil, which is what vaporize is and saw nice results.

lol you already replied to this thread a month ago