To give me an idea of what i should definitely stay away from...... if you had to pick about 5 foods that'll kill your progress, what would they be?
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Originally Posted by AJmuscle
Ice cream
Pasta
White bread
White Rice
Chocolate"If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is "God is crying." And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is "Probably because of something you did."
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07-02-2006, 01:59 PM #7Originally Posted by ReverendMisterHALEO Lead Forum Representative
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07-02-2006, 02:18 PM #8Originally Posted by dbx
And some of the items people are listing are useful for me sometimes, but not usually. White rice, for instance, is sometimes part of a refeed for me.
Ice cream was a big problem until I figured out that whole measuring cup thing.
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Here we go, the deadly 5 foods that will hinder your progress.
1. Flour. White or whole grain makes no difference. Whole grain is just the lesser of two evils.
2. Hydrogenated oils, also known as trans fats. More man made poison imo.
3. High Fructose corn syrup, man developed this poison to keep it's endomorphic population in check, and keep the medical industry booming.
4. Any type of food that is high in fat and high gi carbohydrate. Insulin gets spiked, fat gets sucked in. Doesn't matter if you're cutting or bulking, you probably don't want to do it.
5. Alcoholic beverages. More man made poison which will do nothing but hinder progress/gains for a multitude of reasons.I've gained and lost over 100lbs more times than any man alive should. Do as I say and not as I do.
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07-02-2006, 03:27 PM #16
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I dunno why you would put down milk. But i had a post up today about soy v. dairy milk. And if you drink alot of milk i personally like soy cause it is the same as skim but it is creamy... Plus helps with cancer, lowers estrogen levels... (according to a report i read on that same thread.) Im starting to become a big fan of soy.
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07-02-2006, 03:37 PM #20
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No, I think i have it right... According to what i read (it may be wrong! and if so good thing we are clearing it up) Im not challenging you because i jsut started to really get into this but according to what i read it supports my previous post ....
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=834161
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07-02-2006, 03:42 PM #22
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http://www.google.com/search?q=soy+e...-US:unofficial
hmmm, my supporting evidence is more expansive. Oh, and my links actually work.I've gained and lost over 100lbs more times than any man alive should. Do as I say and not as I do.
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07-02-2006, 03:46 PM #23
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yes sir, yours did... and i found this...
Endocrine Function
Measures of endocrine function were reported from 50 trials in 47 articles. Five studies with a total of 179 participants reported testosterone levels in healthy males before and after soy consumption. Four of these trials found a statistically non-significant decrease in testosterone levels. The small total number of subjects as well as the low quality of these studies precluded any meaningful conclusion. No statistically significant effect was found on FSH level, which is commonly measured in the initial evaluation of male and female infertility; results were conflicting.
http://www.ahrq.gov/clinic/epcsums/soysum.htm
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07-02-2006, 03:48 PM #24
there are articles on here about milk so do a search. i use milk since im bulking, but even skim milk has a large amount of sugar in it. (cant remember exactly but look at your jug and you'll see) i wouldnt use anything above skim, but thats jsut my opinion. obviously our bodies need sugar, but there are better forms out there. i havent heard that soy increases estrogen? thats interesting ill have to look farther into that
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07-02-2006, 03:53 PM #25
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Originally Posted by gvfb60
Conclusions
Most of the studies evaluated the effects of soy on various biomarkers or measures, not clinical outcomes, although, several of the endpoints, such as blood pressure, LDL, and bone mineral density, do have known meaningful correlations with clinical outcomes. Cardiovascular surrogate endpoints were assessed by the largest number of studies. Overall, soy was found to have a small effect on lipids. However, the duration of these studies were generally short, and it is uncertain whether the results would be sustained. No study evaluated clinical cardiovascular disease.
Reduction of hot flashes by soy was seen in trials involving post-menopausal and peri-menopausal women. Most of the trials lasted only 3 to 4 months, thus the long-term benefits remain unclear. In addition, different measurements were used to assess benefits across studies making comparisons and synthesis difficult. Soy phytoestrogens are seen by some as an alternative to estrogen therapy to treat post-menopausal symptoms. However, the estrogenic effect of soy in potentially promoting tumor recurrence raises the concern for its use by breast cancer survivors. The current literature provides no data to address this issue.
The evidence does not support an effect of soy products on endocrine function, menstrual cycle length, or bone health; although evidence was often limited and of poor quality. No study evaluated clinical endocrine or bone disease.I've gained and lost over 100lbs more times than any man alive should. Do as I say and not as I do.
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I linked you to search engine results, so that you can conduct your own research and formulate your own opinions and beliefs like the majority of us have. No one is telling you soy is bad "just cos someone else said it". The majority of people who willingly give advice on matters usually spend a great deal of time seeking the truth for themselves before hand.
All things in research are shades of gray, and the results of research are HIGHLY dependent on the corporations funding said research....I've gained and lost over 100lbs more times than any man alive should. Do as I say and not as I do.
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07-02-2006, 04:08 PM #28
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Rep point for that..(like you need it) im talking about it so i can learn more. to me it is more creamy and the same as skim. And i agree the corp. funding it depends on the type of conclusion that comes out. Im jsut saying there are alot that say good things and alot that say bad. But the point is its more creamy
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Originally Posted by gvfb60
Do you feel happier drinking the soy? or do you feel happier not drinking it knowing that you've escaped possible hinderance? That ultimately is your answer...
Rep points to you, because you're realisticI've gained and lost over 100lbs more times than any man alive should. Do as I say and not as I do.
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