dude that is not what I was talking about. It was a direct response to someone saying that it was a choice and that these kids choose it.Originally Posted by pinchharmonic
The part about someone's kids being gay is to give someone an insight on what that kind of hate would do to their family. I will be honest and say that I was raised to be afraid of and hate gay people. Learned that from my dad...then my dad's youngest brother said he was gay and had AIDS. I was forced to rethink the whole demonization of gays cause my uncle was very cool and never molested us and bought us Matchbox cars. Just trying to show that sometimes when things hit close to home that it forces us to re-think things.
The only thing I want is for people to stop hating and spreading hate. I am not saying that gays should be allowed to get married, or even advocating equal rights (even though Im not against that).
R these people killing themselves cause they cant get what they want...nope.
****Dude Im a therapist and at the very core of almost all these cases is the intense realization that they are hated ; that their family and friends are disgusted by what they are and will abandon them ; and that most of all they are unworthy of life ***** I wouldnt have realized all this if I became a lawyer or whatever, but when I did, it broke my heart.
This is alot more deep than what you make it seem
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Thread: Gay ifbb pros?
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06-26-2006, 06:27 PM #31To strive, to seek, to find...and never to yield
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06-26-2006, 07:04 PM #33Originally Posted by justaman
Words from 'justaman':
1) I hope your favorite bb is gay so you can have dreams of him coming and molesting you
2) I hope all those who are apathetic or hateful towards gays will have the queerest children on the face of the earth.
hmm i donno if those are bad enough. Anyways dont gimme crap about the jews, they were born into being jews, and the poor culture were killed because of their race. Difference Jews BORN into being jewish, Gays CHOOSE to be gay, so dont gimme that crap about other races or what not being killed because of their beliefs its a whole different story.
Oh and ofcourse I think you're gay, with your comments who wouldn't, you sound like a gay rights activist.Offering online personal training.. please PM for rates and complete info
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Originally Posted by Russian47D
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06-26-2006, 07:46 PM #38
and people arent born gay. (so theres none of that bilogical cell etc.. stuff to cure the.) What we got to do is stop encouraging it in the media and place laws stopping this stuff from happening in our world. There are laws around many countries, but not here, and we need them.
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06-26-2006, 07:46 PM #39
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Вы понятия не имеете, о чем Вы говорите и прежде, чем Вы смущаете себя больше, я предлагаю замолчать. Наука доказала ваши идиотичные теории неправильно. Ищите это.
LOL at Latrell. Stop the comedy please, i am trying to get some work done here. Unless,,,,,,,you really are a moron and its not an act. In that case let the legislating begin!! Loby your congressman now man quick, before they take over the world!!!Last edited by chenko; 06-26-2006 at 07:56 PM.
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06-26-2006, 08:43 PM #44Originally Posted by latrell
Second of all, Bob Cicherillo is a nice guy but a real MAN would politely not reply. I like you Bob and you were nice enough to accept my earlier apology, but for this I will not be apologizing. This thread seems more and more like WITCHHUNT and that I don't find very pleasing. Bob (or anyone else than the person in question) has no right to divulge intimate secrets. Bob has not done so YET and shouldn't do so in the future. Not b/c it's illegal (which it isn't) and not because he may fear the person (that would be a silly reason), but because it's the RIGHT thing to do.
If you over there think the REAL DEAL is gay...go ask him face to face you PUNK. I am really pissed off right now. I don't care if Gunter took it or gave it, the man will be a MR.O one day and his physique speaks volumes. So many insecure little geeks on here, I now understand why Kamali gave up on these boards. Not one of you would ever approach any IFBB pro and ask him this crap, why do it behind you computers. I give my name, my city, I'll give you my address and phone number, but you guys (not Latrell he just made a silly thread in my opinion, but the haters on here) you people may not be gay, but you have no balls.
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06-26-2006, 08:59 PM #45Originally Posted by latrell
You didnt expect someone to react like I did ? Well welcome to the world of anger and hate..it seems like yur pretty confortable with it, so not sure why you would be surprised with it.
as for Jews not haning a choice, well what if they did (as most people have when choosing a religion) ? if you dont see whats wrong with this argument I wont waste time trying to explain it...I know that in your mind that being gay is a choice and its the wrong choice. Many people agree with you, but the majority of modern psychological though does not. If you choose to believe your own opinion over experts in the field of psychology, then I guess I wont be convincing you. If you dont believe me check the difference between the DSM pre 1960 and the DSM IV...homosexuality used to be considered a disorder until the American Medical Association and the APA looked t it in the light of modern though. But I guess you could say they were pressure by gays or that they are all just ***gots anyway. Just know that the majority of the medical community says you are wrong.
As for the bull**** that I am a gay rights activist, I can tell you what I am. I am social worker for the state of NY...as such we are suppose to fight for social justice. If I defended black people, does that make me black ? If I defend Catholics does that make me Catholic (I assume you believe that being Catholic is a choice) ? If I think something is wrong I will defend it. You may say the same, but I dont see you really lookin at an argument and analysing it. You go with a feeling that has been infused in you by society and let hate hold sway over you.
I know we dont agree on this and so be it...again I regret saying that bad **** falls on you and your kids...but I dont regret defending a group of people who did nothing to you.
As for my sexual preference and lifestyle, I would tell you to go bck through my posts but Ill save you the time. I was engaged (yes to a woman) but my fiance died in the World Trade Center. She was a social worker too. I promised myself that the hate that caused that **** would never be in my heart and that is why I apoligized to you for what I said. I promised my self and God that I would always work for people who were treated less than others or had less than others...thus my "protectivesness" of minority groupsLast edited by justaman; 06-26-2006 at 09:01 PM.
To strive, to seek, to find...and never to yield
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"The biggest test of courage on earth is to bear defeat without losing heart"
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06-26-2006, 09:07 PM #47Originally Posted by Russian47D
BTW there is a treatment program for gay people who dont want to be gay..actually there is a few and if that is someone's choice then go for it. Im not pushing gayness--I asking people to stop the hate
All the things that you say about doing studies about gay people --been done man. Read some and you'll see how many people disagree with you...people who actually studied what is going on and looked at it objectively.
also how can you biologically study why people make "The choice" to be gay ?
THIS IS ALL ABOUT STOPPING HATRED FOR OTHER PEOPLE SO DONT TRY TO MAKE IT ANYTHING BUT THATTo strive, to seek, to find...and never to yield
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06-26-2006, 09:53 PM #50Originally Posted by justaman
Gays choose to be gay and should not be protected by any rights because there choice is immoral IMHO. I was born into my culture, and even though I am proud of it, there will always be jackasses who treat me in a harsh way. But gays choose to live that life and I personally don't think its moral, but we can babel about that for hours.Offering online personal training.. please PM for rates and complete info
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06-26-2006, 10:19 PM #51Originally Posted by latrell
thanks dude...
didnt know you were Persian and Black..thats a cool mix. In NY anybody whose mixed, people go crazy over (girls I mean:-) so its sucks that you live in a place where people dont. Im sorry for that ****
yeah its hard to argue on morality cause if ya believe something is wrong then thats that.
we can probably lay this one to rest cause it looks like this other thread is gonna stir up some major **** hahahahahahaTo strive, to seek, to find...and never to yield
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I don't really think much of this thread. Who cares if a pro is gay or not? I know it doesn't help bodybuilding in the public eye or anything, but I love the sport. It changes people's lives and helps them get in shape. On to some stuff I thought I read earlier
Larry Scott: "...think he might be gay..." Now; I'm not sure, but I heard from a reliable source that Larry Scott was a mormon and had multiple wives, which I'm not too happy about either but hey, he was a great bodybuilder and that's all I really care about.
Ellen Degeneres: I don't know what someone's statement on her was about...I'm not exactly thrilled that she's gay, but she is a hilarious comedian and a pretty cool person overall. Ever seen her show? Hilarious! Plus, maybe it's just me, but I was kind of disapointed when i found out she was gay even though the two of us would probably never met.
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06-26-2006, 11:00 PM #54
dude, I hate Ellen Degeneris (My dad and probably a million other people call her Ellen DeGenerit)...not cause she's gay but cause I dont think she's funny...just my opinion but find her annoying
also how could u not know she was gay ? **** thats like thinking Rosie O'Donnell is straight...............yup met her and I though she was an ass munch too..just a really abrasive person...actually she was just like a New YorkerTo strive, to seek, to find...and never to yield
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