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    Solid Fact: Not to Do Cardio After 4 pm? REPS

    Is this, if not a solid fact, quite true? I read many times not to do cardio after 4 pm cuz insulin level is high, thus you wont burn any fats...

    Sorry, again, Im new at fat loss. Im an ecto so I bulked hard for 1 year, and now got a few fats in my belly.

    Anyway another thing, Im 5'10", 185 lbs. I wanna make it down 160 lbs. I have a waistline of 33, and want it down to 32. How many lbs. worth of fat do you think that is?

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    yer soild fact, its got nothing to do with caloric difference, i mean at 3.59 and before cardio burns cals, after it doesnt every1 knows, a few fats in your belly, lol how did u get those reps posting **** like this, although its more effective in the morning, raise metabolism for the day etc
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    how does writing a coherent sentence sound?....if you want to lose fat, then do your cardio in the morning, before eating....if your training for physical fitness (for sports or something), i'd imagine training after 4 is fine
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    Originally Posted by benjamin88
    yer soild fact, its got nothing to do with caloric difference, i mean at 3.59 and before cardio burns cals, after it doesnt every1 knows, a few fats in your belly, lol how did u get those reps posting **** like this, although its more effective in the morning, raise metabolism for the day etc
    lol u negged me n think i giv a ****, regradless of the fact im right
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    I don’t believe that’s true, I do my cardio after I work out. Best times for cardio are in the morning right after you wake up or right after you work out. Going from a 33 to a 32 should not take much weight at all, maybe 4 lbs, if you’re a 33 inch waist you do not want to get all the way down to 160 IMO you would look like a stick.--LQ
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    Originally Posted by sweetmisery
    Is this, if not a solid fact, quite true? I read many times not to do cardio after 4 pm cuz insulin level is high, thus you wont burn any fats...



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    Insulin is not linked to the clock. This is not possible. Insulin is linked to your diet. The only way your insulin can be high at 4pm is if you eat something with a bunch of sugar around 3pm or so.

    In addition, cardio does not always burn fat in real time. What I mean by this is that cardio is not strictly performed with the intent of burning fat for the 30 minutes that you are actually running. Cardio instead, serves to increase your metabolism overall such that you can burn fat throughout the day more efficiently. Many here advocate HIIT cardio because of its long lasting effects after the workout.

    That being said, cardio can burn fat while it is being performed. To do this, you must ensure that insulin is very low, and that the intensity is not too high. Fat burning requires oxygen, and high intensity cardio requires more oxygen than low intensity cardio. If the body does not receive enough oxygen to burn fat, it will burn something else. Many people perform cardio early in the morning before eating. This ensures that insulin levels will be low.

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    Originally Posted by sweetmisery
    Is this, if not a solid fact, quite true? I read many times not to do cardio after 4 pm cuz insulin level is high, thus you wont burn any fats...

    Sorry, again, Im new at fat loss. Im an ecto so I bulked hard for 1 year, and now got a few fats in my belly.

    Anyway another thing, Im 5'10", 185 lbs. I wanna make it down 160 lbs. I have a waistline of 33, and want it down to 32. How many lbs. worth of fat do you think that is?

    THANKS! REPS!
    I'll try and help you, ignore that sarcy tw@t.

    First off, if your cutting the KEY IS DIET. Cliche i know but it is the truth.
    Concentrate on getting this in line and cardio will become worthwhile, other its not as usueful as it can be.

    Anyway cardio, in my experience there has no noticeable difference based on the time ive done it. I prefer a good 20 mins of HIIT most, its quick and very effective, im of the opinion that for cardio to be most effective one should be crawling by the end. The idea is to get your heart rate going so fast that it will be up for a long time after you've finished hence burning calories. Usually, i try to build my speed up by 1MPH per minute so by the 8th or 9th minute im doing around 11-12 MPH, then after the sprint minute is done, do it from 4MPH again up to thesprint. I've just started doing boxing, now thats more tiring than running ive found! try it!!

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    doesn't matter,,,night/day empty stomach, semifull stomach, I'm losing right now. and fitting cardio when I can...that means it's not at any given time everyday...it may be 5:30am (when My inlaws are here and I can work later in the day) or 10:30pm (after putting baby to bed) just get it in.
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    still true that you loose fat faster if you glycogen reserves are low.
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    Thanks guys! Its just that I read many who said that you will burn no fats if your insulin level is high, which it is after 4 pm.

    Most of you have been repped! Thanks again!
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    Originally Posted by sweetmisery
    Thanks guys! Its just that I read many who said that you will burn no fats if your insulin level is high, which it is after 4 pm.

    Most of you have been repped! Thanks again!
    They are half right...

    They are right that fat cannot burn while insulin is high. This cannot be avoided. However, they cannot state that insulin rises at 4pm. There has to be a cause for the insulin to rise. I am not 100% sure, but insulin can linger in your systems for hours after a big meal. Earlier, I stated that your insulin could only be high at 4pm if you ate sugar at 3pm. This was overly simplistic, so please do not take it for absolute truth. If you eat lunch at 12 noon...chances are that by 4pm, most of that insulin is actually starting to taper off and disappear.

    Sugar also takes many forms. Baked Potatoes have suger, and it can quickly affect your blood sugar such that large amounts of insulin are released. Potatoes do not taste sweet at all...so what gives? I am just reminding you that sugar takes many subtle forms.

    Learn about the GI and its implications:

    www.glycemicindex.com

    This will help you some, but this info is not fool-proof...it is merely a guide.
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    I think it also depends on the person as well...if you have lots of fat to lose (like me) it doesn't matter when you do it. this week...I'm down 3lbs already...I take in most of my carbs 3 hours before and 1 hour after lifting...the rest of the day is fibrous veggies and protein...I also feel great doing 30 mins cardio after leg day...with only protein after the workout then an hour later the pWO meal..
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    OK thanks again. So that said, what is the best cardio length to lose excess fats(mine just in the gut)? And just moderate? And if daily or not?

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    If you burn sugar off instead of fat during cardio, you'll just lose the fat later when your body would normally be burning sugar. It doesn't matter too much but yes, I do my cardio when I wake up.
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    basically its like this:

    you eat something with a certain GI value, and it raises your blood sugar

    your body releases insulin (insulin lowers your blood sugar) to get it back to normal levels
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    Originally Posted by sweetmisery
    OK thanks again. So that said, what is the best cardio length to lose excess fats(mine just in the gut)? And just moderate? And if daily or not?

    THANKS!
    Try to split your cardio up into two or three shorter segments.

    When I walked or jogged three times in a day, I saw the most progress. Instead of doing a single 1 hour session, do three 20 minutes sessions or two 30 minute sessions. Seperate them by about 4 hours or more. This will likely help a little also.
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    Originally Posted by pickitup
    Try to split your cardio up into two or three shorter segments.

    When I walked or jogged three times in a day, I saw the most progress. Instead of doing a single 1 hour session, do three 20 minutes sessions or two 30 minute sessions. Seperate them by about 4 hours or more. This will likely help a little also.
    Hmmm... wont that be too risky that I might lose muscles? 1 hour cardio a day I mean.
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