I was planning to make my own ECA stack and I saw this ephedrine HCL what's the difference? which one should i use?
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12-24-2002, 08:24 AM #1
Difference between ephedrine hcl and normal ephedrine?
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12-24-2002, 09:31 AM #2
I'm planning to add some yohimbine hcl caps to the mix too. 5mg 3 x day
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12-24-2002, 09:46 AM #3
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12-24-2002, 11:09 AM #4
The HCL actually stands for hydrochloride, and this is the synthetic version of ephedrine which has more of a kick than ephedra, its herbal cousin. I used to take one mini-thin (25 mg of ephedrine hcl) and one no-doz (200 mg of caffeine) before working out, and this combination IMO surpassed the potency of one yellow jacket. I would hold off of the yohimbe until you become acclimated to this type of ephedrine because it might cause your blood pressure to get too high.
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12-24-2002, 12:01 PM #5
Not messing with the hcl then
ok, what if I just get an eca stack (ripped fuel xtreme) and add the yohimbine hcl caps? Would that be too much?
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"My mind is like a General. And my body's like an Army." - Herschel Walker -
What we do in life, echoes in eternity...
Recovery is key. Massages, epsom salts baths, foam rolling, sleep masks, contrast showers, it all adds up. Get a foam roller, The Stick, a tennis/baseball, use them and stay healthy, pain and injury free.
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12-24-2002, 12:15 PM #6
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12-24-2002, 12:29 PM #7
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12-27-2002, 03:09 AM #8Originally posted by 2demon2
It's hydrochloride. Next thing you'll be telling people to stay away from dihydrogen monoxide.
But seriously I am still hesitating myself between EPHEDRA (which is legal in my country but not as effective) and EPHEDRINE HCL (which is illegal, but more effective).
The key question is... which one is safest to use? I thought the ephedrine might be safer since it is better known what the actual dose will be. With ephedra, it's an educated guess.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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12-27-2002, 03:54 PM #9
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08-08-2009, 12:43 AM #10
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08-08-2009, 12:46 AM #11
hcl is a way in which the ephedrine alkaloids are precipitated out of the solution. its the result of an A/B extraction.
Basically you would take ephedra sinica and grind it up. then you would (if preferred) use a non polar solvent (such as NAPTHA) and extract any fats or toxins. afterwards you would let the "purer" ephedra dry allowing the NAPTHA to evaporate. Then you would soak the powdered ephedra in a polar solvent which extracts the ephedrine alkaloids. Next you would mix this extract resin in a solution of water and HCL(muriatic acid). fine crystals should precipitate out of the solution. These are HCL salts crystals of ephedrine. Of course there are many different ways of doing this procedure.Last edited by ToshiroMifune; 08-08-2009 at 12:51 AM.
i do it for the tacos.
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08-08-2009, 12:51 AM #12
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08-08-2009, 12:56 AM #13
also, i might add that in order to properly absorb, your body turns alkaloids into salts using hcl. HCL is produced in the body to break down food into "chyme". after broken down to chyme your liver andother organs produce peptins to break down the fats, carbs, and protein. But anyways, hcl is a natural part of the digestive system. ephedrine hcl is just an easier way to let your body absorb it, as it is already in salt form.
i do it for the tacos.
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