Layne Norton's Journey to the Natural Pro Stage

[ZMN]

dude, I WON Mr. Muscular legs in the "Mr. Sexy legs" contest on our cruise last year LOL, thats focking hilarious that you won it too

pics look like you guys had alot of fun. which line did you cruise with?

[str8flexed]

so layne do you reccomend eating every 4 hours and taking leucine between these males?

yes

[str8flexed]

Layne, just curious if you've ever taken measurements of your arms. Your eft arm looks significantly bigger than your right. Not Ronnie Coleman discrepancy , but it looks apparent!

um... well yea dude, I tore my pec and haven't done heavy weights on that side in 4 months. is this suprising?

[str8flexed]

you realise he just had pec tear surgery?

some times I sincerely doubt if people even read half of what i write!

[str8flexed]

dude, I WON Mr. Muscular legs in the "Mr. Sexy legs" contest on our cruise last year LOL, thats focking hilarious that you won it too

pics look like you guys had alot of fun. which line did you cruise with?

royal caribean

[ArchAngel'73]

some times I sincerely doubt if people even read half of what i write!

Well, there is a lot.
and some times the wordz r 2 bigg to unerstan.

[ZMN]

royal caribean

oh, we were with NCL. they must do that mr. sexy legs thing on all cruises lol either that or theyre stealing ideas from each other

[Sayan-Jin]

Bro those quads are sick!!! Amazing how big of a progress you have made on them.

[MasterStrongman]

here is a link to download my presentation from the 2008 ISSN symposium

http://www.slideshare.net/biolayne/o...d-muscle-mass/

download it here: http://www.slideshare.net/biolayne/o...-mass/download

Finally got around to reading this. It was very interesting and thorough.

MS < --- needs to learn more about nutrition

[str8flexed]

i wouldn't feel too bad MS. This is what I do afterall.

[low blow]

i wouldn't feel too bad MS. This is what I do afterall.

.....and doing a great job at it too. Hows the pHD coming along? You got any more new lab results? (yes mooching)

[TheUnlikelyToad]

Under Categories... UCP Band.

We may actually be out of stock at the moment. I'll have to check with Dave and report back.

Customizer was on vacation and simplified things for his dad to ship orders while away...

... In other words, they're back in-stock!

https://www.blackstarlabs.com/blacks...roducts_id=389

[MasterStrongman]

i wouldn't feel too bad MS. This is what I do afterall.

Oh, I just need to learn more about nutrition! As a SM competitor, I have ignored nutrition for so long. But now that I am older, I am beginning to realize how badly I have been holding myself back. And nobody knows nutrition better than bodybuilders, especially bodybuilders with PhD's in nutrition!

I like to give everyone their due. When it comes to flexibility, I go to my MMA brothers. Strength, I go to my PLing friends. Nutrition is definitely the area in which bodybuilders punk everyone.

Here is a question: can your diet or hydration levels affect how quickly you build up lactic acid? Is that a stupid question?

MS < --- inquiring minds want to know

MS < ---- bad eating has held me back.

[str8flexed]

i do not know, however the idea that lactate causes fatigue is actually a myth, they have shown at physiological temperatures, lactate does not cause fatigue... it's actually phosphate ion build up and hydrogen ion build up from ATP breakdown that inhibits muscle function by preventing calcium channels in the sarcoplasmic reticulum from functioning properly

[Quelly]

i do not know, however the idea that lactate causes fatigue is actually a myth, they have shown at physiological temperatures, lactate does not cause fatigue... it's actually phosphate ion build up and hydrogen ion build up from ATP breakdown that inhibits muscle function by preventing calcium channels in the sarcoplasmic reticulum from functioning properly

you just blew my mind

[dpd555]

i do not know, however the idea that lactate causes fatigue is actually a myth, they have shown at physiological temperatures, lactate does not cause fatigue... it's actually phosphate ion build up and hydrogen ion build up from ATP breakdown that inhibits muscle function by preventing calcium channels in the sarcoplasmic reticulum from functioning properly

MS, that's why it's important to stay well hydrated too. Being dehydrated will make the scenario worse for sure.
Also, beta alanine may help buffer the decrease in pH. You may want to look into buying bulk beta alanine ...or use a product like Scivation's VasoCharge

[MasterStrongman]

MS, that's why it's important to stay well hydrated too. Being dehydrated will make the scenario worse for sure.
Also, beta alanine may help buffer the decrease in pH. You may want to look into buying bulk beta alanine ...or use a product like Scivation's VasoCharge

I have not had more than a gallon of water this week. I haven't eaten, slept or drank like I should at all.

MS < --- discouraged

[Mitsuomi]

I have not had more than a gallon of water this week. I haven't eaten, slept or drank like I should at all.

MS < --- discouraged

go hit some PR's for motivation

[warbird00]

Layne,

do you use r ala or ala? How do u work the dosing time and how many mg at a time?

thanks

[Rodzilla]

Layne, I've been waiting on more info from your research. That was a great presentation. Some of the information was of course way beyond me..but I got the gist of it. I know you are still doing further research, so you can't give an ultimate answer, but suppose we want to be guinea pigs. Can you remind us of what you are doing?

If I recall correctly it's: 5 meals spaced at least 4 hours apart. 1-2 scoops xtend inbetween meals. Additional Xtend around training.

I believe I saw you say a protocol like this helped you add size while staying leaner than you have been in the past.

[italianplaya30]

Layne, I've been waiting on more info from your research. That was a great presentation. Some of the information was of course way beyond me..but I got the gist of it. I know you are still doing further research, so you can't give an ultimate answer, but suppose we want to be guinea pigs. Can you remind us of what you are doing?

If I recall correctly it's: 5 meals spaced at least 4 hours apart. 1-2 scoops xtend inbetween meals. Additional Xtend around training.

I believe I saw you say a protocol like this helped you add size while staying leaner than you have been in the past.

im not layne but here is the protocol Layne and I came up with for my contest!!

6am Wake up
1 scoop Xtend with breakfast

9am
1 scoop Xtend

11:30am PreWorkout Meal
1 scoop Xtend with 2 scoops Vasocharge

1:30-2pm
2 scoops Xtend with post workout meal

3:30pm
1 scoop Xtend

5pm
Meal 4

8pm
1 scoop Xtend

9-10pm
Meal 5

12am before bed
1 scoop Xtend

3am
Meal 6 with 1 scoop Xtend

6am repeat cycle

[KarateChris]

im not layne but here is the protocol Layne and I came up with for my contest!!

6am Wake up
1 scoop Xtend with breakfast

9am
1 scoop Xtend

11:30am PreWorkout Meal
1 scoop Xtend with 2 scoops Vasocharge

1:30-2pm
2 scoops Xtend with post workout meal

3:30pm
1 scoop Xtend

5pm
Meal 4

8pm
1 scoop Xtend

9-10pm
Meal 5

12am before bed
1 scoop Xtend

3am
Meal 6 with 1 scoop Xtend

6am repeat cycle

You wake up at 3 am to eat another meal?

[Rodzilla]

im not layne but here is the protocol Layne and I came up with for my contest!!

I appreciate that I myself don't wake up in the middle of the night..so I may try it out, cut my meals from 6 to 5. It would really free up my day as well Now question..how far apart were your pre and post workout meals? Edit: you already told me that..haha.

You wake up at 3 am to eat another meal?

some people wake up anyway.

[AllGenetix]

Layne,

do you use r ala or ala? How do u work the dosing time and how many mg at a time?

thanks

300mg ALA pre/post

[italianplaya30]

You wake up at 3 am to eat another meal?

yup i have to pee so why not get a meal in! my body never goes into a span of longer then 4-5 hours with no food....works for me!

I appreciate that I myself don't wake up in the middle of the night..so I may try it out, cut my meals from 6 to 5. It would really free up my day as well Now question..how far apart were your pre and post workout meals? Edit: you already told me that..haha.

i eat about 45-1 hour preworkout...then workout for 1 hour to 1 hour and half

[str8flexed]

Layne, I've been waiting on more info from your research. That was a great presentation. Some of the information was of course way beyond me..but I got the gist of it. I know you are still doing further research, so you can't give an ultimate answer, but suppose we want to be guinea pigs. Can you remind us of what you are doing?

If I recall correctly it's: 5 meals spaced at least 4 hours apart. 1-2 scoops xtend inbetween meals. Additional Xtend around training.

I believe I saw you say a protocol like this helped you add size while staying leaner than you have been in the past.

on the money

[EricTheRed]

You wake up at 3 am to eat another meal?

might as well if ya gotta piss

[Rodzilla]

on the money

awesome, I'm going to try it out as soon as this first summer semester is over.

Question though, do you find that you have to eat a lot of carbs and fats together? I feel the meal combining thing has been blown out of proportion, but I still don't like the idea of a lot of carbs with a lot of fat. If you are keeping pre and post workout meals low in fat, do the other 3 get pretty high. Any thoughts on how high is to high?

[str8flexed]

not really, my fat is about 65g/day so the biggest carb fat meal is like 10g fat, 50g carbs which isn't a big deal

[Rodzilla]

not really, my fat is about 65g/day so the biggest carb fat meal is like 10g fat, 50g carbs which isn't a big deal

thanks.

you are still having a mid-night meal though. For those of us who sleep straight through the night..would the higher fat to carb be a problem..

or because we aren't getting the meal in the middle of the night..would we lose some effectiveness from keeping MPS constantly elevated?

I know it's not a final plan, but I'm wondering if you have anyone try this who eats just 5.