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    Stupid idiot "expert" nutritionists think they are knowladgeable

    There are so many "expert" "nutritionists" and "dieticians" who think they know everything, but half of them dont know ****. They think they know everything becuase they have degrees in biochemistry and degrees in nutrition.

    Alot of them havnt touched a weight or even had any personal experience in bodybuilding, weight loss, etc. And they think they know it all

    This one "expert" says on her site that 10% protein is a good level of protein, even for bodybuilders. She thinks that anything over 20% is unhealthy and dangerous and is not needed to build muscle.
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    I concur. Stupid people should be rounded up and exiled to some crappy island in the middle of no where. Then when they're all about to starve to death, because they're so stupid, someone should nuke the F******.
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    Originally Posted by Compactamaxxx
    I concur. Stupid people should be rounded up and exiled to some crappy island in the middle of no where. Then when they're all about to starve to death, because they're so stupid, someone should nuke the F******.
    Of course, stupid people rarely realize that they're stupid...
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    Originally Posted by siamesedream
    Of course, stupid people rarely realize that they're stupid...
    Who let you off the island?
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    Originally Posted by Compactamaxxx
    Who let you off the island?
    jealous because he got away and you're still there?
    Glorious PC master race
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    Originally Posted by hittman
    jealous because he got away and you're still there?
    Brown nosing?
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    Brown nosing?
    There, there, good chap! Back to the island with ye!
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    well there is this one teacher at my school with major in nutriton and she does know her ****.
    wait wut
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    Originally Posted by BuildUpNow
    well there is this one teacher at my school with major in nutriton and she does know her ****.

    I said most.... Im talking about the people who think they know it all JUST becuase of their degree. Kind of like a untrained soldier who has read all the combat manuals and thinks he knows everything, so he goes and tries to tell a veteran special-forces guy the best way to fight.
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    Originally Posted by Mtguy8787
    I said most.... Im talking about the people who think they know it all JUST becuase of their degree. Kind of like a untrained soldier who has read all the combat manuals and thinks he knows everything, so he goes and tries to tell a veteran special-forces guy the best way to fight.


    yup just proves how pintless the school system is.

    i love how i see fat skinny trainers at my gym telling other fat people what to do when they look like **** themselves.
    HONEY!
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    I completely agree with that. And then when you try to explain things to them they spout "facts" at you and tell you that you are wrong.

    My science teacher doesn't know a flexor from an extensor.

    "Twenty grams of protein a day is a very dangerous amount and can make you loose muscle mass". I just want to slap her.

    I told her that she could take her Slim Fast shakes and cry to her Weight-Watcher buddies about how fat she is. Then I woke up. -_-
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    i feel the same way about doctors. i've yet to meet one that knows how to do anything except prescribe the prototypical medicine/ treatment
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    Originally Posted by Fred Flinstone
    i feel the same way about doctors. i've yet to meet one that knows how to do anything except prescribe the prototypical medicine/ treatment

    And if its not in their "book", they are completely confused.
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    *LOL*. I can't find the picture so reps for anyone who does find it. There was a conference on how to prevent and treat obesity a few months ago in Washington DC. All the nutritionists who spoke at the conference were fat, it gets even better they had this meeting over lunch, wanna know what was served? Hamburgers and french fries. Idiots. I hate this do what I say not what I do attitude most of these PHDs have.
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    yep, i've heard it all from nutritionists and PT's. The worst are the PT's who think they know their **** just because of their qualification...prime example is one who was telling me that working in the 4 - 8 rep range was a waste of time. So i replied with "what do you suggest?" . "12 reps" he replied..."anything lower is wasting your time in the gym."
    I now know its better to ignore them and get on with what you've gotta do then leave. Also i think the best way to deal with Nutritionists and cocky PT's is just to say "thanks for your advice, I might take it on board. bye". or similar.
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    Nobody that has actually earned a biochemistry degree is an idiot.

    But yeah, lots of "dieticians" don't know what the hell they're talking about.
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    I had a brief argument with this "nutritionist" who told me 10-15% was all you need.

    Like Hue Ghas said, she started spewing fatc to support her side, which ironically, made her look even more foolish. She says that research has proven that most people only need a little bit of protein. LOL. Then she goes to tell me that she has worked with athletes in high schoo and college. She says that reaseach proves, and quotes her favorite "doctor", that even COLLEGE ATHLETES only need about .6 g per pound.

    She cant even grasp the concept that building musscle requires that you stay anabolic, and doing that requires much more protein than staying at equilibrium/catabolic.

    She can have whatever opinion she wants. I could care less. But what pisses me off is that she is spewing this advice to honest, beginning bodybuilders and other people who are trying to get into shape, but dont know where to begin. People who are putting out the effort, but whose efforts are being sabotaged by idiots like herself, and thousands of other "experts"
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    Originally Posted by PaHulkster
    Nobody that has actually earned a biochemistry degree is an idiot.

    But yeah, lots of "dieticians" don't know what the hell they're talking about.
    You have a point. But just becuase you have a biochemistry degree, and you know which chemicals break down and combine with other ones during X bodily process, doesnt mean you know what you are talking about when it comes to actual, real life situations.
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    I should start a "Nutritionists Don't Know Diddly" club. =/
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    Originally Posted by Mtguy8787
    You have a point. But just becuase you have a biochemistry degree, and you know which chemicals break down and combine with other ones during X bodily process, doesnt mean you know what you are talking about when it comes to actual, real life situations.
    When those real life situations involve biochemistry it does. Bodybuilding isn't exact science or even close to it really. Everybody just ballparks things, and goes by what usually works. Even if you are very exacting you never figure out how much of each macronutrients you really need for maximum results. There are too many variables in too complex of a system to really apply strict science to bodybuilding.
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    Originally Posted by PaHulkster
    When those real life situations involve biochemistry it does. Bodybuilding isn't exact science or even close to it really. Everybody just ballparks things, and goes by what usually works. Even if you are very exacting you never figure out how much of each macronutrients you really need for maximum results. There are too many variables in too complex of a system to really apply strict science to bodybuilding.
    Nicely put.
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    Yeah, there are even diet calculators online that won't let you put more than 20% for your protein portion of your diet. It's pretty pathetic. I guess they want it to be Planet Fitness Cardio Bunny world out here or something...
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    Originally Posted by Mtguy8787
    There are so many "expert" "nutritionists" and "dieticians" who think they know everything, but half of them dont know ****. They think they know everything becuase they have degrees in biochemistry and degrees in nutrition.

    Alot of them havnt touched a weight or even had any personal experience in bodybuilding, weight loss, etc. And they think they know it all

    This one "expert" says on her site that 10% protein is a good level of protein, even for bodybuilders. She thinks that anything over 20% is unhealthy and dangerous and is not needed to build muscle.
    ok ok...

    I know nothing about becoming a nutritionist. However these individuals have qualifications for a reason. I am sure they know more than "****"..

    You dont need to touch a dumbell to know what you have to eat and what macronutrients are best etc....

    And i think people who have a degree in nutrition dont do it because they want to become an accountant or a lawyer. They do it because they want to specialize in that field......

    What doofus wakes up one day and say hey i will do a degree in nutrition, it will get me far......

    Its a pretty relevant degree. For being a nutrition person..
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    Originally Posted by Hue Ghas
    I completely agree with that. And then when you try to explain things to them they spout "facts" at you and tell you that you are wrong.

    My science teacher doesn't know a flexor from an extensor.

    "Twenty grams of protein a day is a very dangerous amount and can make you loose muscle mass". I just want to slap her.

    I told her that she could take her Slim Fast shakes and cry to her Weight-Watcher buddies about how fat she is. Then I woke up. -_-
    Actually I agree with her on that, 20 grams a day would make many people lose mass.
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    Originally Posted by sumguy
    Actually I agree with her on that, 20 grams a day would make many people lose mass.

    Did you understand my post?
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    Originally Posted by sumguy
    Actually I agree with her on that, 20 grams a day would make many people lose mass.
    I think he meant she was saying 20 grams was too MUCH.

    The nutritionist that I talked to thinks that the ideal protein range is 10-15%, even for bodybuilders
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    It was put into the context that 20 grams of protein a day was too much.

    Edit: ^^^ Thank you for clarifing.
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    I ingest more than twenty grams of protein every time that I fart. No qualified nutrionist will tell you twenty grams of protein a day. Hacks aren't applicable.
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    Originally Posted by Mtguy8787
    I had a brief argument with this "nutritionist" who told me 10-15% was all you need.

    Like Hue Ghas said, she started spewing fatc to support her side, which ironically, made her look even more foolish. She says that research has proven that most people only need a little bit of protein. LOL. Then she goes to tell me that she has worked with athletes in high schoo and college. She says that reaseach proves, and quotes her favorite "doctor", that even COLLEGE ATHLETES only need about .6 g per pound.

    She cant even grasp the concept that building musscle requires that you stay anabolic, and doing that requires much more protein than staying at equilibrium/catabolic.

    She can have whatever opinion she wants. I could care less. But what pisses me off is that she is spewing this advice to honest, beginning bodybuilders and other people who are trying to get into shape, but dont know where to begin. People who are putting out the effort, but whose efforts are being sabotaged by idiots like herself, and thousands of other "experts"

    How the hell do you know 10-15% protein isnt enough to make gains? Because the side of your protein jug says it isnt? You all laugh and say you need more protein.. and yes I take in more protein than that too, but I wouldnt argue with somebody qualified and say that its a requirement. Its just the way my diet is. In all likelyhood 15% protien is probably all you need to make gains assuming its a high quality source.
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    Originally Posted by Mtguy8787
    I had a brief argument with this "nutritionist" who told me 10-15% was all you need.

    Like Hue Ghas said, she started spewing fatc to support her side, which ironically, made her look even more foolish. She says that research has proven that most people only need a little bit of protein. LOL. Then she goes to tell me that she has worked with athletes in high schoo and college. She says that reaseach proves, and quotes her favorite "doctor", that even COLLEGE ATHLETES only need about .6 g per pound.

    She cant even grasp the concept that building musscle requires that you stay anabolic, and doing that requires much more protein than staying at equilibrium/catabolic.

    She can have whatever opinion she wants. I could care less. But what pisses me off is that she is spewing this advice to honest, beginning bodybuilders and other people who are trying to get into shape, but dont know where to begin. People who are putting out the effort, but whose efforts are being sabotaged by idiots like herself, and thousands of other "experts"
    ummm....

    ive gained a pretty decent amount of mass (140 to 210 in 3 years) on less protein than that. My ratio was mayb .4-.5g/lb

    All I did was "supplement" with LOADS of carbs . And no I am NOT fat! I can "see" my abs .

    I'm not saying that the whole 1-3g/lb for protein is a crock, but I do believe that some people simply benefit more from consuming carbs...
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