*anxiously awaits to see what split the OP decided to go with*
*has doubts that the OP will check a thread he made 3.5 years ago*
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View Poll Results: Which split do you prefer?
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Chest/Triceps and Back/Biceps
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Chest/Biceps and Back/Triceps
390 42.67%
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Thread: Chest/Biceps or Chest/Triceps
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09-25-2009, 04:48 AM #31
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Alchemist of Alcohol
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Journal: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=126418493
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09-25-2009, 10:02 AM #32
I've tried a number of different splits since I posted this. I think I've been happiest with the upper/lower split with GPP on off-days. Something like:
Monday - Upper
Tuesday - GPP
Wednesday - Lower
Thursday - Upper
Friday - GPP
Saturday - Lower
Sunday - Off
That said, I doubt the split makes much of a difference in terms of gains. Ultimately, whatever you can be consistent with is probably the best choice.
-C10PR's ... Goals @ 160 lbs. Bodyweight:
Bench Press - 250 ... 315
Squat - 275 ... 400
Trap Dead - 400 ... 480
Bent Over Row - 195 ... 315
Military Press - 150 ... 160
Pull-Up - BW+150 ... BW + 180
Dip - BW + 170 ... BW + 200
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09-25-2009, 10:04 AM #33
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09-25-2009, 10:12 AM #34
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09-25-2009, 01:52 PM #35
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09-25-2009, 05:52 PM #36
Both combinations work. The journal sections have members who have made gains using one or the other.
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10-04-2010, 05:00 PM #37
Very old thread, but oh well...
If biceps are your lagging part, best to hit them when they are fresh...
Workout: 4 day split(4 on 1 off) with some cardio in there.
Day 1:Shoulders/Triceps
Day 2:Back/Forearms
Day 3:Legs/Calves
Day 4:Chest/Biceps
Day 5:Off/alot of stretching
Traps: mine grow easily, so I just superset them in there somewhere after a set of something....
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10-04-2010, 05:42 PM #38
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Chest/Bi's/Calves
Legs/Abs
Rest
Shoulders/Tri's/Calves
Back/Abs
Rest
Rest
That's my split. I just can't train my tri's or bi's with full intensity if I hit them after chest and back respectively. I feel the best way to hit them is when they are at their strongest. Plus with this split they are getting hit twice a week (once directly, once indirectly).
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10-04-2010, 05:44 PM #39
chest/biceps. i usually feel too sore doing chest/triceps same day and therefore will not be able to preform to the highest i can possibly reach
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10-04-2010, 05:57 PM #40
Chest/tris
Shoulders/traps
Back/bis
Legs
Calves/forearms
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10-04-2010, 06:00 PM #41
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JDJ's 5/3/1 Revamped
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=143074093&page=10
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10-04-2010, 06:24 PM #42
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I've done a lot of different splits but i always go back to chest/triceps, back/biceps, shoulders/traps, legs.
However,
When i DID split chest/bi's and back/tris, i ended up doing a light day/high reps and an entirely separate day for bis/tris....it worked well, but i just dont have that much time to be in the gym between school, work, cardio, the hour of digestion PLUS food prep, the half hr/45 minutes wait after ingesting pre workout stuff etc. Off days are a nice time haha
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10-04-2010, 06:37 PM #43
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I use to work like that but now I do this:
Chest/Calves
Back/bi's
Legs
Shoulders/Traps/Tri's
off
I only do a few exercises for bi's and tri's. They are getting hit as well on Chest and back days. Feeling good with this routine for now.
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10-04-2010, 06:57 PM #44
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In your case, I would prefer chest with triceps.
Bodybuilding is 60% training and 50% diet. Yes that adds up to 110%, because that's what you should be giving it. Change the inside, and the physique will follow.
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10-04-2010, 07:02 PM #45
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10-04-2010, 07:05 PM #46
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10-04-2010, 07:06 PM #47
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My bulking split is:
back/shoulders/traps
rest
chest
rest
arms
abs/legs
rest....
usually most combine back/bis....chest/tris or shoulds...
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10-04-2010, 07:25 PM #48
Honestly both are gay.
Chest & tri are less gay, but still gay.
A non-gay workout would be "upper" or "full body" or "push".
You wonna hit your tri harder? Start with weighted dips! You wonna hit your bi harder? Start with weighted chin-ups! isolations and worrying about tri and bi are teh you guessed it... gay.
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10-04-2010, 07:28 PM #49
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10-04-2010, 08:12 PM #50
So it's been four and a half years since I posted this thread and I came to the following conclusion:
It doesn't really matter. Do whatever you prefer. Genetics and diet play a huge role. Plenty of people have found success doing upper/lower, full-body, and body part splits for decades. Pretty much anything works; no need to sweat the small stuff.
-C10PR's ... Goals @ 160 lbs. Bodyweight:
Bench Press - 250 ... 315
Squat - 275 ... 400
Trap Dead - 400 ... 480
Bent Over Row - 195 ... 315
Military Press - 150 ... 160
Pull-Up - BW+150 ... BW + 180
Dip - BW + 170 ... BW + 200
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10-04-2010, 08:22 PM #51
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09-09-2011, 08:38 PM #52
My work out routine.
I have tried numerous methods, and to be able to work out a muscle group twice in a week and achieve full recovery, I've found this works great:
Monday: Chest/Tris: That Monday i will start out with 4 chest exercises, three of which incorporate the triceps as well, bench/incline/decline, etc...then do one isolated chest exercise. Then i will blast my tris off this planet with 3 isolated tri exercises: extensions, pressdowns in different various forms each Monday.
Tuesday: Back/Bi's/forearms: I will start off with 4 back exercises, 3 of which incorporate the biceps: pull downs, pull ups, rows, etc.. Then do the one isolated Back exersize(Lat pushdowns/ Latt pulldowns widegrip(almost isolated). I SuperSet abs in with the back. Then i will do 4 isolated bicep exercises and SuperSet the obliques.
Wednesday Legs/Shoulders/Traps/: I do 4 Leg exercises incorporating the entire leg and ass while supersetiting 3 calf exercises in. 4 isolated shoulder workouts, 2 isolated traps workouts
Thursday: Now i will start with Triceps first, doing 3 isolated tricep exercises. Then i will do 3 isolated Chest exersizes; flys and cable cross-overs, etc.
Friday: Now i sill start with 3 isolated Biceps first, then continue on to the limited isolated back workouts at my gym: Lat pushdowns, wide grip pulldowns, and to a lesser extent, seated rows.
Saturdays Now I will start with 3 isolated shoulder workouts, then 3 isolated leg workouts supersetted with 3 isolated calf workouts.
Sunday BREAK.
I find that 72 hours is more than enough time for my muscles to rest from Mon-Wed workouts, however I need to have my Sundays off and i think having one day off a week from the gym is paramount to moral and lets me hit those extra sets i put on mon-wed in comparison to thursday-sat a lot harder.
You'll also notice i switch up which muscle starts first so i can hit that muscle fresh at least once a week, which seems to put significantly more nervous system stress on that particular muscle, with a greater weight, helping to increase strength a little.
This is also my hypertrophy workout, trying to promote only muscle growth, and burn calories/fat; not focusing particularly on muscle strength. Therefore, i do 10-12 reps and 60-70 sec breaks between sets not including the supersets. I will do this for 1.5 months, then switch to Strength training, doing 4-6 reps and 2-3 minute breaks.
Every two weeks during my 1.5 month cycle of strength/muscle growth, i will switch my repetition pace from fast as i can to medium speed.
With the 72 hours, hitting a muscle isolated fresh at least once a week, working out each muscle group twice a week, shocking the muscles with different paces/reps/weight/break periods... I gain muscle extremely fast.
Personal note: two weeks ago was my first time back in the gym in 3 years, due to being busy in the military and having back surgery (Fused L5/S1 vertebrae) I am 28 and lifted from 16-25. All i can say is muscle memory ****ing rules, and I'm excited to be back. I'll get pics soon.
Cheers.
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12-05-2011, 03:01 PM #53
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12-09-2011, 02:37 PM #54
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12-09-2011, 06:21 PM #55
this thread is back from the dead
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12-10-2011, 01:25 AM #56
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12-10-2011, 03:16 AM #57
The flexion and adduction properties of Pec Major make this group most efficient for raising a pint glass. Biceps provide contractional leverage towards intake of said beverage. Clearly, the two muscle groups are optimally combined as "Chest/Bicep" day, weekends preferred.
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12-10-2011, 07:37 AM #58
I like chest and tris together but both have advantages. Do want you enjoy man.
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12-29-2011, 07:42 AM #59
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01-26-2012, 02:32 AM #60
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Last night was a 'Chest' day for me.
After a full heavy chest workout my biceps were screaming to be worked.
Did a few sets of dumbell curls and my bi's were pumped as f**k!!!
Chest & Biceps is a great combo.
But work the chest fully FIRST to feel the full glory.
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