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    pregnancy and keto?

    Hi everyone...I have been following a keto diet for several months now and feel better when I don't consume carbs. However, I am now pregnant and I was wondering whether it is still a safe diet to follow or if I should just abandon it until after the baby is born. I still lift 4x a week though not as heavy and I still run about 20 miles a week. What does anyone think?
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    Hey, congratulations, when are you due? How are you feeling?

    The "official" position is that a keto diet is not suitable while you are pregnant. Mind you, the official position is that a keto diet is dangerous and will rot your bones while clogging up your arteries. So I wouldn't get too worked up about that.

    As far as I can find, there is no research done on keto and pregnancy. However, though I ate a standard mixed diet while I was pregnant, I cycled so much (I puked on buses) that I was often in ketosis and it didn't seem to cause any problems. Many women end up in ketosis due to trouble keeping food down.

    Breastmilk is a ketogenic food, and an exclusively breastfed baby is in ketosis for the first six months, until solids are introduced, so it seems logical that ketones are not harmful to a baby.

    My personal inclination would be to exercise as much as feels comfortable, sleep as much as possible, and just eat a clean diet to hunger.

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    My sister-in-law was diagnosed with gestational diabetes and kept it completely under control with a low carb diet. The baby was over 8 lbs and she gained about 15 during the pregnancy.
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    Good point, I forgot about the GD thing.

    There is a lot of research to show that regular moderate exercise helps prevent GD. It also makes you more likely to deliver around your due date, and to have a quicker labour with fewer interventions.

    The general rule is that any activity you practised before you got pregnant, you can continue as long as is comfortable.
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    hi, im a med student, nd i graduate in a month.
    i recently did obstetrics and gynecology so i guess you can take my advice.

    if you are on a keto diet, id suggest you change your diet to a normal balanced one -
    remember, as you are pregnant, you are eating not just for yourself, but for your child. and its in the best interst for a healthy baby for you to have a balanced meal ( not to remove a food group - in this case - carbs)

    the bets perdictor for a good pregnancy is a good antenatal care system - so go to your clinics and have a hospital delivery - its much safer!
    ask your doctors about any further qiestions you may have regarding your diet - im sure they will say the same thing as i am!

    make sure you take folic acid and also some iron tablets - it helps in brain developement and improves intelligence in your kid - the iron is for you cos you may lose some blood during labour!

    as for the woman who was diebetic and had an 8lb baby- this is quite serious - in the uk, this is considered high risk - she would have been on insulin if her glucose tolerance was impaired - 8 lb babies are big and pulling a big kid out of a tiny hole can be a real problem - this is high risks of intra uterine death, arrested descent in second stage ( when your pushing) malrotation ( your baby comes down in the wrong position - making surgery or trauma likely)
    shoulder distocia - the baby gets its shoulder stuck - and you have to force it out - they can damage the nerves in the shoulder. excess bleeding and miscarriage is also more likely -
    if this woman you mention does have another kid, its best for her to have a glucose tolerance test and then to go onto insulin - if its abnormal - oh yeah, she may as well have one done now ( women with gestational diabetes are at higher risk of developing normal diabetes anyways)

    hope this helps.
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    Originally Posted by bxa121
    as for the woman who was diebetic and had an 8lb baby- this is quite serious - in the uk, this is considered high risk - she would have been on insulin if her glucose tolerance was impaired - 8 lb babies are big and pulling a big kid out of a tiny hole can be a real problem - this is high risks of intra uterine death, arrested descent in second stage ( when your pushing) malrotation ( your baby comes down in the wrong position - making surgery or trauma likely)
    shoulder distocia - the baby gets its shoulder stuck - and you have to force it out - they can damage the nerves in the shoulder. excess bleeding and miscarriage is also more likely -
    if this woman you mention does have another kid, its best for her to have a glucose tolerance test and then to go onto insulin
    1. She is not diabetic- she had GD and kept it completely under control with diet.

    2. The OB/GYN was predicting around 6 to 7 lb birth weight.

    3. She had a C-section.

    4. She gave birth at 38 years of age and had her tubes tied.

    Is grammer important in UK medical schools?
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    Originally Posted by johnnyironboard
    1. She is not diabetic- she had GD and kept it completely under control with diet.

    2. The OB/GYN was predicting around 6 to 7 lb birth weight.

    3. She had a C-section.

    4. She gave birth at 38 years of age and had her tubes tied.

    Is grammer important in UK medical schools?
    wow-
    i wouldnt be surprised if the kid didnt have breathing problems

    but i guess the bigger the better is the motto in the US.

    besides, your not the one thats pregnant
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    Originally Posted by bxa121
    hi, im a med student, nd i graduate in a month.
    i recently did obstetrics and gynecology so i guess you can take my advice.

    if you are on a keto diet, id suggest you change your diet to a normal balanced one -
    remember, as you are pregnant, you are eating not just for yourself, but for your child. and its in the best interst for a healthy baby for you to have a balanced meal ( not to remove a food group - in this case - carbs)

    the bets perdictor for a good pregnancy is a good antenatal care system - so go to your clinics and have a hospital delivery - its much safer!
    ask your doctors about any further qiestions you may have regarding your diet - im sure they will say the same thing as i am!

    make sure you take folic acid and also some iron tablets - it helps in brain developement and improves intelligence in your kid - the iron is for you cos you may lose some blood during labour!

    as for the woman who was diebetic and had an 8lb baby- this is quite serious - in the uk, this is considered high risk - she would have been on insulin if her glucose tolerance was impaired - 8 lb babies are big and pulling a big kid out of a tiny hole can be a real problem - this is high risks of intra uterine death, arrested descent in second stage ( when your pushing) malrotation ( your baby comes down in the wrong position - making surgery or trauma likely)
    shoulder distocia - the baby gets its shoulder stuck - and you have to force it out - they can damage the nerves in the shoulder. excess bleeding and miscarriage is also more likely -
    if this woman you mention does have another kid, its best for her to have a glucose tolerance test and then to go onto insulin - if its abnormal - oh yeah, she may as well have one done now ( women with gestational diabetes are at higher risk of developing normal diabetes anyways)

    hope this helps.
    There is so much wrong with this that I don't know where to start.

    Actually I do. 8lb is NOT a big baby. It's a bog standard normal birthweight, the sort of size that you would expect to have a normal labour and natural birth.

    What on earth is this business of "pulling a big kid out of a tiny hole"? Babies get pushed out, not pulled.

    All the statistics show that for woman with a normal pregnancy and no contra-indications, a planned home birth is safer than hospital.

    Do NOT take large doses of extra iron unless you are specifically diagnosed as deficient. High maternal iron readings are associated with a high risk of haemorraging. Folic acid is a good idea, for everyone, not just pregnant women.
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    ^^agreed.
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    Originally Posted by johnnyironboard
    Is grammer important in UK medical schools?
    It's not important in any schools it seems these days here bro! I'm only 26, but even my college professors were complaining to me when I saw them about how dumbed down it had gotten recently!
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    Originally Posted by bxa121
    wow-
    i wouldnt be surprised if the kid didnt have breathing problems

    but i guess the bigger the better is the motto in the US.

    besides, your not the one thats pregnant
    1. He is healthy.

    2. Maybe you are using the metric system and think we are talking about an 8 kg baby.

    3. Did you need med school for that?

    BTW remind me never to get sick in the UK if they let idiots like you in medical school (are you a student or janitor?).
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    To be honest, this has to be some of the worst medical advice I've heard yet in the UK, I wouldn't let it sway your opinion (although it certainly has its problems!).
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    Originally Posted by chimponarope
    To be honest, this has to be some of the worst medical advice I've heard yet in the UK, I wouldn't let it sway your opinion (although it certainly has its problems!).
    If they are all not like him I'll give them another chance
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    Most doctors are more aware, but I reckon that if you are healthy, the best way to go is midwife-led care. Obstetrics is how to deal with birth gone wrong. Midwives are experts in keeping things normal.
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    Originally Posted by johnnyironboard
    If they are all not like him I'll give them another chance
    Might aswell, its free
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    Might aswell, its free
    Free!!- I reconsider my reconsideration-Chairity hospitals are not my first choice.
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    Originally Posted by shopgal
    Hi everyone...I have been following a keto diet for several months now and feel better when I don't consume carbs. However, I am now pregnant and I was wondering whether it is still a safe diet to follow or if I should just abandon it until after the baby is born. I still lift 4x a week though not as heavy and I still run about 20 miles a week. What does anyone think?
    I would suggest you stop the keto diet. For no other reason but you are eating for too and chances are that little guy/girl wants some carbs. he/she told me
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    Originally Posted by Chins
    I would suggest you stop the keto diet. For no other reason but you are eating for too and chances are that little guy/girl wants some carbs. he/she told me
    Sweet Tarts to the rescue. I've seen enough women gain 50+ lbs while pregnant that a lot of them agree with you.
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    Free!!- I reconsider my reconsideration-Chairity hospitals are not my first choice.
    Well not free free, I pay a metric ass load of tax every month for it, but I don't pay for the health service seperately aswell.
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    For what it's worth, my memory of being pregnant is that you will soon find out what you need to eat, and what you need to avoid. I had all sorts of ideas of the ideal pregnancy diet, but my body had other ideas.

    I found, for instance, that I couldn't stomach non-organic vegetables, but organic was fine. I ate a lot of root vegetables and oatmeal and milk, because they stayed down. Just the smell of coffee make me throw up and I was over seven months on before I could stomach tea again.

    Before I got pregnant the first time, I was vegetarian. While I was pregnant, I started eating fish again (lots) and meat (a little). Once the baby was born and I started breastfeeding, I wanted meat four times a day, starting with blood pudding for breakfast.

    You'll probably find that your body will tell you very clearly what you need to eat.
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    Originally Posted by chimponarope
    Well not free free, I pay a metric ass load of tax every month for it, but I don't pay for the health service seperately aswell.
    How much tax do you guys pay? Is it tough to get ahead in the UK?
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    Originally Posted by Eileen
    For what it's worth, my memory of being pregnant is that you will soon find out what you need to eat, and what you need to avoid. I had all sorts of ideas of the ideal pregnancy diet, but my body had other ideas.

    I found, for instance, that I couldn't stomach non-organic vegetables, but organic was fine. I ate a lot of root vegetables and oatmeal and milk, because they stayed down. Just the smell of coffee make me throw up and I was over seven months on before I could stomach tea again.

    Before I got pregnant the first time, I was vegetarian. While I was pregnant, I started eating fish again (lots) and meat (a little). Once the baby was born and I started breastfeeding, I wanted meat four times a day, starting with blood pudding for breakfast.

    You'll probably find that your body will tell you very clearly what you need to eat.
    How many children do you have? You should write a book about the experience- from diet and excercise and delivery all through ending breastfeeding you really know a lot. I wish I had known all of that before hand.
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    Three children, all home births, all extended breastfeeding. Believe me, this came as a shock to me. Before I got pregnant the first time, I had just assumed that I would have the most high-tech birth available (preferably a Star Trek-style "Beam it out" operation). I had planned to breastfeed, but only so that I could eat extra Mars bars.

    Then I started researching, and discovered that the more high-tech the birth, the greater the likelyhood of all sorts of complications (Ireland has a C-section rate of almost 30%, and a tiny breastfeeding rate) and the more it would hurt! So I ended up having them all at home, with a great midwife who did not shout "PUSH" once, and no painkillers.

    What to know a secret? When you're at home and can move to suit yourself, labour feels pretty much like a giant breathing set of squats. The pain involved is that Muscle-worked-to-failure pain, nothing like an injury. In a weird way, it's almost fun.

    And I found that breastfeeding not only had all sorts of benefits for the baby, but for me as well, and it was far less effort than getting up in the middle of the night to heat up bottles.
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    thanks,
    I never thought about it but being at home must have been nice. It would be(was) very stressful to wait until the right time rush to the hospital and then be in a strange place with different people popping in and out of the room all the time( I wonder how hospitals in the US keep things straight you never see the same person twice).

    Your kids are very fortunate.
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    Originally Posted by johnnyironboard
    Your kids are very fortunate.
    I think I'm the lucky one. I've got great kids, and I actually enjoyed having them.

    I can't swear that pregnancy was nine months of joy, that puking on the bus business was no fun for anyone, and the whole thing of what to eat was nine months of worry: no matter what you eat or don't eat, there's some expert somewhere who'll insist it is bad for your baby.

    Yes, not having to plan the trip to hospital was great, and having the same midwife do all the antenatal and after-birth care was wonderful.

    What I had planned for the birth was gentle music, a warm bath and lots of squatting. When labour started, what I actually wanted was to stay upright and dance to very loud rock music. As long as I kept my hips moving, I could handle it. I'd have loved to have seen the reaction of the hospital to that!
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    Originally Posted by johnnyironboard
    How much tax do you guys pay? Is it tough to get ahead in the UK?
    A lot and everything except food pretty much is taxed. Pretty hard to make a really good living, I make over $50k a year and still gonna struggle when I decide to buy a house.
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    Originally Posted by Eileen

    What I had planned for the birth was gentle music, a warm bath and lots of squatting. When labour started, what I actually wanted was to stay upright and dance to very loud rock music. As long as I kept my hips moving, I could handle it. I'd have loved to have seen the reaction of the hospital to that!
    That's great. A far cry from lot's of strangers and forms to sign!!
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    Originally Posted by chimponarope
    I make over $50k a year.
    Around 94K pounds?
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    Think your calculation went wrong somewhere bro, about £30k in pounds. More dollars to the pound.
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