hi all, im a rugby league player but play rugby union for school 8 weeks out of the year. I play flanker or any forward position and have no idea what to do. When I played full back i got the ball from the 20 then ran it up against a wall of defense, then got tackled and lost the ball..
hmm im the fastest forward in the comp and not sure if i should bulk and get slower..
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11-26-2008, 03:17 AM #1591
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11-26-2008, 03:19 AM #1592
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11-26-2008, 03:27 AM #1593
true.. just a bad assumption I have.. where I'm from technique doesnt mean much its just about shotting people and intimidation.. that being said theres nothing better then getting the ball on a tap and making a line break for a 60 metre try..
ive got about 15 weeks to the first game and not sure what i should be doing..
im thinking cell tech and optimum whey..? with 2 gym sessions a week?
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11-26-2008, 03:33 AM #1594
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11-26-2008, 10:43 AM #1595
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Ive got a few questions....for you guys
1)Like for bodybuilders, should a db bulk then cut in the peroird of trainning during the off season for football?
2) If i im bulking then is it ok to sweat a little while working out, cause i feel like i can get a better work out by moving at a faster pace, so i tend to sweat more, but i want to gain more weight?
3) what are some great vertical work outs i can work on and any over all great DB(more safety stuff) work outs that i can do?
thanks you guys jeff
edit: just read the bulking/cutting post in this thread.....just can some one answer question 3 for me?Last edited by J3ff187; 11-26-2008 at 10:46 AM.
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11-26-2008, 10:49 AM #1596
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3) Vertical Jump Bible
4) TeenBodybuilding.com > For Sports > Football > All the DB ArticlesI rep U.S. Marines on sight.
9/26 - 165lb, 245 bench, 345 squat, 430 deadlift ,205 powerclean, 4.75 40, Must haz moar speedz and x-plosion :(
5'6" and completly flat-footed with almost 0% arch
Rugby right now...hopefully can be a runningback next year for football
Everyone wants to fight until they get punched in the mouth
Negged because I refused to nuthug a cocky f*ggot
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11-26-2008, 12:37 PM #1597
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been a couple weeks
Hi all. it's been a while since I've posted here, figured I'd see how everyone is doing. Played a match this weekend myself. Got a chance to play flanker, #8, and inside center (where before I had been relegated to being a much too tall hooker), scored a 40m try as well! I really liked getting the ball consistently at center, but it involved a little more standing around than I'd like (getting plenty of opportunity to catch my breath was nice though). It think I'll stick to the pack. We kinda threw a ragtag team of social players together to play a local club's B-side. Lost 10-15, but it wasnt bad considering none of the players on my side had ever played with each other before.
Things went well and I got an invitation to come practice with them and play with their A-side once I learn the game a little bit more. Just in time for the official league play this next Spring. Hope everyone is playing well.
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11-26-2008, 01:03 PM #1598
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11-26-2008, 02:48 PM #1599
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i thought calves had like <5% factor in jumping?
althoug i could be mistaken..I rep U.S. Marines on sight.
9/26 - 165lb, 245 bench, 345 squat, 430 deadlift ,205 powerclean, 4.75 40, Must haz moar speedz and x-plosion :(
5'6" and completly flat-footed with almost 0% arch
Rugby right now...hopefully can be a runningback next year for football
Everyone wants to fight until they get punched in the mouth
Negged because I refused to nuthug a cocky f*ggot
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11-26-2008, 03:22 PM #1600
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11-26-2008, 03:27 PM #1601
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well he would be better off doin glutehams than calf raises i think...rite?
I rep U.S. Marines on sight.
9/26 - 165lb, 245 bench, 345 squat, 430 deadlift ,205 powerclean, 4.75 40, Must haz moar speedz and x-plosion :(
5'6" and completly flat-footed with almost 0% arch
Rugby right now...hopefully can be a runningback next year for football
Everyone wants to fight until they get punched in the mouth
Negged because I refused to nuthug a cocky f*ggot
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11-26-2008, 03:44 PM #1602
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You're not getting what I'm saying. It's not a matter of what he would be better off doing. It's a matter of taking everything that can help you and doing it, not doing the main things that seperates good results from great.
This:
Squat
SLDL
Calf Raises
Is better than this:
Squat
SLDL
Not a big differance, but a differance none the less."All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us." Gandalf The Grey
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11-26-2008, 04:11 PM #1603
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11-26-2008, 04:17 PM #1604
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11-26-2008, 04:20 PM #1605
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11-26-2008, 04:24 PM #1606
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11-26-2008, 04:53 PM #1607
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Why would you use the time working on your calves when your plyos will be enough, plus the plyos are where the explosive aspect comes from, wouldn't you want them to be at 100% when you're doing them?
And where is this "ongoing debate?" Calves are mostly Type II fibers. Low reps focus more on Type II fibers. Since you and I could both probably stack most calf machines to their max and still be able to do five reps, where is the point?
And yes, they will affect your plyos...been there, done that, if they are fatigued from lifting, your body switches to utilizing oxygen as its source for your calves since most of your ATP is spent up, oxygen system = Type I slow-twitch fibers.U.S. Army Veteran
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11-26-2008, 05:00 PM #1608
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11-26-2008, 05:03 PM #1609
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I don't do calves anymore because of the effects on plyos...well, now that I'm graduating I probably will.
Just because you don't feel it doesn't mean it's not happening...take for example in baseball, someone swinging three bats, then going out there with just one so that the bat is light as a feather. Bat speed actually decreases from normal bat speed after swinging with three bats as a warm-up, even though the athlete doesn't feel it one bit, and actually feels like they are swinging it faster. It is because they have activated the Type I fibers. If you have done calves one day, and have not allowed them to recover and have done plyos, you may not "feel it" but if you were to test yourself, you would be less explosive in general because your ATP stores aren't fully replenished yet, and your body has to rely more on the Type I, oxygenated fibers.U.S. Army Veteran
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11-26-2008, 11:37 PM #1610
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11-27-2008, 02:10 AM #1611
Repped..... F*** I wish people would stop thinking that supplements are the be all and end all!! Get a decent diet and training plan and then when you are working to your max start to think about supplements!!
Oh and i also think to the original poster.... you should probably learn the rules of rugby union!! If your taking the ball in every time and losing it... your not helping your team that much!! Learn the art of rucking and mauling!!OFFICIAL RUGBY THREAD http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107034291
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11-28-2008, 08:42 AM #1612
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What sort of food/drinks do you guys have before a match to give you energy? during matches i feel so sleepy i really dont know why, its not that im unfit or that i dont get enough sleep so im guessing its that im not eating enough carbs before the game. im thinking of trying out this maximuscle viper stuff https://www.gnc.co.uk/sports-nutriti...er/product.htm
does anyone have any experience with this or a simular product?
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11-28-2008, 10:17 AM #1613Position: Number 8 & Lock
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12-04-2008, 04:02 PM #1614
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Hi guys,
A while ago I mentioned a fitness training method that is great because
1) you can customize it to your own needs, or everyone in your team
2) any number of athletes can train at the same time eg one coach can monitor 1 athlete or 100 athletes, all of whom will be performing and individualized session
3) it has been shown to not only improve endurance but also speed (in some cases 5% decrease in 40m in TRAINED athletes).
Anyway, I've got some down time so I'm putting it down in an article or such to give away (or at least NOT sell) and was curious, what medium do people prefer? Ebook/ article or audio file? I am also looking at a movie file combining both aspects.
Any thoughts?http://www.rugbycoaching.org
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