06-18-2005, 07:42 PM #121
07-05-2005, 06:52 PM #122
Easier than you might think.
One piece of advice that ive gotten from a few doctors and nutritionists alike is that if there is one joint support, its just like the guys said about, a Glucosamine Sulfate and Chondroitin mix.
The one thing they told me that i wouldnt have guessed is that almost all brands are the same. You can measure the strength by miligrams, but as far as the difference between brands go, its not as important. So pimp out the cartilage.
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07-05-2005, 09:08 PM #125
Flax seed oil... check out the thread
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10-21-2005, 10:54 AM #128
I am surprised that no one has mentioned NOW Foods Glucosamine & Chondroitin Plus MSM
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/gcm.htmlI'm young, I'm well hung, threat to your intellect .... and I got your prized possession sprung!
11-01-2005, 12:24 AM #129
11-03-2005, 12:12 AM #130Originally Posted by Dylon
Previously I was taking GLC2000 for the past few years
but a friend of mine convinced me that I was overpaying and turned me on to the NOW foods supps and to tell you the truth I cant tell the difference in the 2
11-03-2005, 04:48 PM #131
11-09-2005, 02:16 PM #132
I don't post much but I've had such a dramatic reponse to a product, in such a short time that I had to share.. the Hyaluronic Joint Complex from this site, http://www.no_advertising.com, has really amazed me. Not that this particular brand is the bomb, it just happens to be the one I purchased. Albeit has all the other standard joint compounds in it I'm trying to convince myself it's the Hyaluronic Acid. I didn't have any luck with a glucsamine/msm product from another brand but haven't tried chondroitin either so can't say for sure if it's one ingredient or a combination but my knees haven't felt this good in yrs. And it worked quick, a matter of days, none of this waiting 6 weeks or so.. I've had 2 arthroscopes on my right knee in the last yr and a half and the other ones not much better. Alot of sports thru high school and college, football and track, and of course lifting over the yrs. I'm 42. Anyway just wanted to pass this along. I know how it feels to have crickity knees.
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11-20-2005, 12:36 PM #134
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11-21-2005, 08:11 PM #136
11-21-2005, 08:41 PM #137Originally Posted by bbbd
i'm very surprised no one's mentioned the 2 products that i take (not cuz i take em, but cuz they are VERY solid products):
please feel free to "rip" apart AND/OR "praise" - i want the best out there, and if there is "better" then please tell me.
The first is a product called ArthogenX (by Biogenesis):
Serving Size 4 capsules ArthroGenX
Servings Per Container 30 per serving
Glucosamine sulfate 1500 mg
Chondroitin sulfate 250 mg
Methyl sulfonyl methane (MSM) 500 mg
Cetyl Myristoleate 30 mg
Niacinamide 600 mg
Boswellia serrata gum extract 100 mg
Ginger 50 mg
Turmeric 50 mg
Rosemary 50 mg
The second is a product called ArthoSoothe (by Designs For Health):
*now they must have changed this formula around since i last had the ArthoSoothe (for like the past 1-2 months, i ran out and didn't didn't bother to get more since i had more of the above ArthogenX left) but - correct me if i'm wrong - the ArthoSoothe looks SUPERIOR to the ArthogenX!:
Serving Size: 120 capsules Four capsules contain:
Vitamin B3 (as Niacinamide) 500 mg
Zinc (Zinc Chelazome® Bis-Glycinate Chelate) 10 mg
Selenium (Selenomethionine) 200 mcg
Copper (as Copper Chelazome® Bis-Glycinate Chelate) 1 mg
Manganese 1 mg (as Manganese Chelazome® Bis-Glycinate Chelate) Glucosamine Sulfate 1,000 mg
Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM) 750 mg
N-Acetyl L-Cysteine (NAC) 200 mg
Glycomarine™ (Green Lipped Mussel) 100 mg
Boswellia (Boswellia serrata) (resin) 75 mg [standardized to contain 60% Boswellic Acid]
Turmeric (Curcuma longa) 75 mg [standardized to contain 95% Curcuminoids] Cetyl Myristoleate 30 mg
Hyaluronic Acid 20 mg
Resveratrol (Polygonum cuspidatum) 3 mg [standardized to contain 20% Resveratrol]
Collagen II 2 mg
Other Ingredients: Gelatin (capsule), magnesium stearate.
*one concern i will point out is the (comparatively lower) amount of chondroiton -
in the ArthogenX, (the 1st formula i posted), there is only 250mg/serv. (which seems a lot lower than some other brands out there... but then again, maybe that's all that is need - i haven't really looked into this)...
as far as the ArthoSoothe (the 2nd formula I posted), i do not see any chondroiton listed in the formula (i think the original formula did have like 100mg/serv, which is even less than what's in the ArthogenX), but the ArthoSoothe does have a NICE blend of other good stuff... so maybe i'll stick with it and supplement with chondroiton? any suggestions? i want the best that's out there ppl!I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter...
11-21-2005, 09:48 PM #138
I dont know if anyone has said this yet bit SCI FIT's Glucosamine Sulfate + CSA works pretty well!"Character -is who you are when no one is watching"-
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11-22-2005, 05:39 PM #139
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there are basically 3 types of joint support ingredients: MSM(methyl sulfonyl methane), glucosamine chondroitin, and glucosamine sulfate. you dont need some special brand or anything with this stuff cuz its all the same, just try to get these three ingredients. i take this thing from trader joes call Joint Support, works great for me.
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I have a buddy of mine that stacked the following. He felt amazing, and he hadn't felt that great in yrs!!! I just bought some TODAY! Can't wait to test it out!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/prima/elast.htmlBeauty is only skin deep, but bad is to the bone!
03-15-2006, 08:19 PM #143
Anyone else have any experience with fluidjoint? I'm 25 and recently my knees have started popping and cracking a lot and are weak (i.e. when I bend down, it's hard to get back up). There's not really any pain, it's just that they are weak and of course they sound like a bowl of rice crispies. No recent injuries and I'm not super active in athletics or anything. I've been using osteo-biflex triple strength for about a month now with no improvement. Just wondering about this fluidjoint stuff, or maybe someone knows of something else to try. Thanks,
03-20-2006, 09:22 AM #144
My chiro (probably the best I've ever had) swears by CosaminDS - says its the only one that has Cl that makes the big difference with Glucosamine. I'm starting it today we'll see if it makes a difference. Here's a link to their site:
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03-24-2006, 03:51 PM #146
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I've tried multipile joint products, none of them help as much ibuprofen. Prescription Ibuprofen is 800mg = 4 advil. Works like a charm and is affordable. Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory medicine is the standard cure for tendonitis. Check it out:
Aspirin is listed, but doesn't work as well for me.
I've also had success with Flax Oil, but after researching, Fish Oil (concentrate) is a better choice for it's EPA and DHA content:
Needless to say, I made the switch to Fish oil. There's all kinds of good information on tendonitis at this link, check it out!
I also take Glycine, since it is the internal amino of collagen:
I've never taken it stand alone, but I like it as a calming neurotransmittor also. Look it up on PDR Health for more info.
Capzasien cream is a champ too. Warning, it burns!
I had mild success with Liquid Glucosamine + Chrodrotin, but it took weeks. I tried TKE Joint Boost and other powdered glucosamine supps and I personally think they are a waste of money!
Hyaluronic Acid makes sense, I might give that a try, but I'm going to put Cissux RX to the test first. Except, the ibuprofen is working so well, it might have to wait!
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03-28-2006, 04:24 PM #147
So is it true that only people around 40+ will benefit from glucosamine, condriotin, and MSM? Some of my joints a pretty messed up and I would like to start taking something.
Besides G/C/MSM, I'm definitely going to start taking flax seed oil. Should I take fish oil as well? If so, how much of each?
03-28-2006, 04:32 PM #148
03-29-2006, 11:51 PM #149
I've been taking liquid g/c called 'joint movement' made by symtec, that I found at walmart, for about a week and a half now, so far no results. I'm wondering if g/c is really what I'm needing to be taking as most people that are trying this supplement seem to have joint pain or arthritis symptoms. I don't have these problems, my knees click and pop and my knees are weak sometimes and sometimes they're not. To be honest it's just unsettling to hear them clicking/popping, as they just started doing it about 6 months ago, any advice? thanks,
03-30-2006, 04:30 PM #150
The clicking isn't painful right? Just annoying? I have that same thing, everytime I crouch down then come back up they click/pop. If I remember correctly, it's just a rough spot on the back of your patella. Sort of like a lump and as the other bones/cartilage rub over it they click. G/C/MSM won't do anything for that. The only way to fix it is surgery but it REALLY isn't worth it.