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    Aren't gaining weight

    I've been working out about 7 or 8 months. I went from 150-170 in the first 6 months, but as I got more into it I've improved my diet, ate more frequently, worked out more properly, and have put in more intensity. The 3 month program I am using changes constantly week from week and that's the program I've started with so I am constantly repeating it but I'd imagine my body would never get used to it, kinda like p90x. Do you think my gains have slowed or even stopped because I've reached that point where gains just slow down? I mean I've gained 20 months in 6 months how can I gain another lean 20 pounds in 6 more months?
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    Originally Posted by BePositive View Post
    I've been working out about 7 or 8 months. I went from 150-170 in the first 6 months, but as I got more into it I've improved my diet, ate more frequently, worked out more properly, and have put in more intensity. The 3 month program I am using changes constantly week from week and that's the program I've started with so I am constantly repeating it but I'd imagine my body would never get used to it, kinda like p90x. Do you think my gains have slowed or even stopped because I've reached that point where gains just slow down? I mean I've gained 20 months in 6 months how can I gain another lean 20 pounds in 6 more months?
    Gains will slow as time passes. This is normal. However, stagnancy is not normal and indicative of adaptation surpassing any positive feedback inducing targeting.
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    Gains will slow as time passes. This is normal. However, stagnancy is not normal and indicative of adaptation surpassing any positive feedback inducing targeting.
    Well how often should I expect any gains? For the past two months my weight hasn't changed but I feel like I have gotten bigger.
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    Originally Posted by BePositive View Post
    I've been working out about 7 or 8 months. I went from 150-170 in the first 6 months, but as I got more into it I've improved my diet, ate more frequently, worked out more properly, and have put in more intensity. The 3 month program I am using changes constantly week from week and that's the program I've started with so I am constantly repeating it but I'd imagine my body would never get used to it, kinda like p90x. Do you think my gains have slowed or even stopped because I've reached that point where gains just slow down? I mean I've gained 20 months in 6 months how can I gain another lean 20 pounds in 6 more months?
    Your doing well if you have gained twenty lean pounds in six months. That is really great. Keep up the good work. You will slow down as natural limits are approached but do not be concerned those limits take years and years of hard work and near perfect diets to reach.

    If for the past two months you have not changed as DJ said perhaps its time to check your diet again? You may need to raise the calories since you have been put on more lean weight.


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    Aren't gaining weight
    Im glad you said something bc I kept looking at the title going am i effing stupid why don't I understand that
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    Eat more. As you gain more muscle, your caloric maintenance will increase. So gains will slow, if your diet has stayed the same.
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    Like chazzy said, eat more.

    If your numbers aren't progressing, then you might also think about deloading for a week and then changing up whatever programme you're on. I'm not familiar with what you're doing but changing the programme every week (unless it's minor changes) isn't really a great idea; how can you track progress? Not telling you what to do, of course; just suggesting that sticking to a basic programme AND eating more might net you more gains.
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    Eat 4,500 cals like i do each day, then come back and ask that question.
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    you made noob gains, plain and simple. From here on out gains in size will most likely be slow. The best way to increase the size from now on is to eat more and increase your strength as much as possible. want bigger arms? work up to to your bodyweight+3 plates for reps on dips.(example) Force your body to grow by always beating the weight you did last time, either in reps or more weight.
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    Originally Posted by BePositive View Post
    Well how often should I expect any gains? For the past two months my weight hasn't changed but I feel like I have gotten bigger.
    Stagnant bodyweight is usually due to caloric deficiencies:

    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    Eat more. As you gain more muscle, your caloric maintenance will increase. So gains will slow, if your diet has stayed the same.
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    Nothing quite like newbie gains.
    Gains will slow over time.
    But you are still relatively new to training, so not gaining is likely stemming from a caloric deficiency.
    I.e. you probably need to eat more. You are likely eating more now than you were prior to proper training in the gym, but this is likely now just maintaining your gains.

    Also, check the deload sticky if you haven't already or do not know what deloading is.
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    Thanks guys, I'm pretty sure it's mainly because I'm not getting enough calories. My diet is great, and I eat about 5-7 times a day, but it's so lean that I don't think I get enough cals from it. Lunch for example, is usually 6 oz chicken breast on two slices of whole grain bread, and a cup of veggies. I don't think theres a lot of calories in that, let's say 200 from the bread, 100 from veggies, and 200 from the chicken...that's about 500 calories.
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    Originally Posted by GuyJin View Post
    Like chazzy said, eat more.

    If your numbers aren't progressing, then you might also think about deloading for a week and then changing up whatever programme you're on. I'm not familiar with what you're doing but changing the programme every week (unless it's minor changes) isn't really a great idea; how can you track progress? Not telling you what to do, of course; just suggesting that sticking to a basic programme AND eating more might net you more gains.
    Jason C. Powell changes his routine frequently. Different things work for different people.

    P.S. Not saying you're wrong; just suggesting that the OP keeps an open mind.
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    Originally Posted by superheronumba1 View Post
    Jason C. Powell changes his routine frequently. Different things work for different people.

    P.S. Not saying you're wrong; just suggesting that the OP keeps an open mind.
    Does he do a full overhaul, or switch out a few exercises, or switch up his rep ranges? (curious)
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    Originally Posted by superheronumba1 View Post
    Jason C. Powell changes his routine frequently. Different things work for different people.

    P.S. Not saying you're wrong; just suggesting that the OP keeps an open mind.
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    Fair enough.

    Hate to admit it, but I was unaware of who Jason Powell is. Googled his name and it seems he's a very good natural bodybuilder. Whatever; he's advanced--and that makes a lot of difference. If someone is advanced then they might benefit by switching things up every time out--when you have all the mass you need then focusing on this or that bodypart first may help more--but IMO if you're just starting out I think it best to keep everything basic and progressive whilst not changing all that much. "Change" for me means upping or lowering the reps slightly i.e. from 5-8 to 8-12 or changing the workout order i.e. benches, then inclines, then flyes to inclines, then benches, then flyes--that sort of thing.

    Agreed with the "Keeping an open mind," part. Sometimes a little change is good; sometimes it's too much of a good thing.

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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    Does he do a full overhaul, or switch out a few exercises, or switch up his rep ranges? (curious)
    Honestly, I would love to show you where I found out about his workout program. Here is a link to a organization that he and his wife started. I can't remember where exactly I read about his workouts, but I do remember that he always switches the rep ranges. Monday it's 3-6, Wednesday 6-8, Friday 10-15 or something along those lines. He always mixes the order that he does this too. If I can find the page I was talking about earlier I will link it in here. Otherwise, feel free to sate yourself on his website. I signed up on there since I live in Sugar Land.

    http://www.therealspot.org/group/fol...age=2#comments

    I actually go to the same gym that his wife goes to, and I even saw him working out there once (I didn't know who they were at the time).

    Really inspiring to see a natural bodybuilder that big. It doesn't hit you the same unless you see him in real life.
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    Originally Posted by superheronumba1 View Post
    Honestly, I would love to show you where I found out about his workout program. Here is a link to a organization that he and his wife started. I can't remember where exactly I read about his workouts, but I do remember that he always switches the rep ranges. Monday it's 3-6, Wednesday 6-8, Friday 10-15 or something along those lines. He always mixes the order that he does this too. If I can find the page I was talking about earlier I will link it in here. Otherwise, feel free to sate yourself on his website. I signed up on there since I live in Sugar Land.

    http://www.therealspot.org/group/fol...age=2#comments

    I actually go to the same gym that his wife goes to, and I even saw him working out there once (I didn't know who they were at the time).

    Really inspiring to see a natural bodybuilder that big. It doesn't hit you the same unless you see him in real life.
    Bookmarked, I'll read it when I get a chance.

    That kind of switching makes more sense. It isn't a full overhaul, which is generally what we are trying to get newbies to stray away from. They read about muscle confusion, and that you should change your routine often, etc etc. So they will do complete overhauls every 4 weeks.

    In reality (IMO), you should stick to your same general workout, and adjust rep ranges, maybe switch out a couple exercises now and then, mix up your order, etc, and you will have all the "muscle confusion" you need.
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    Sounds similar to what Eric Broser does--I think he posts here as "Sixth Sense." Power/Rep Range/Shock programme--he says it can be watered down a bit for those less advanced.

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    Aren't gaining weight
    yes...i arent gaining weight
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