using momentum

[b0ngman]

I notice when I use momentum on my lifts I can do many more reps or more weight. On dips today when i went all the way down and Just 'bounced' right out i could easily do 15-20 reps @195 bodyweight. But when I went to the bottom and paused it was way harder! which way is better for building strength and size??? I see this jacked monster in the gym doing upright rows with 205, just bouncing it around, but he smells really bad....

[moochems]

For stength/size not using that momentum is best. Especially for size. Usually, the momentum is used at the weakest part of the lift, sharpening your strong points, and dulling your weak points. Unless you just want to be badass* and lift alot of weight* you should jsut avoid the momentum.

*- In my highschool weight training class, one of the football players show's me how he does deadlifts: Picking it up slighty, allowing it to bounce off the ground then finishing the lift on the concentric of the bounce. He deadlifts more than me (trap bar... I don't really fit in a trap bar) but if it came down to competition style rules I'd definetly pull more off the floor.


Also I'm prettier than he is, so there's some first hand expierence about why momentum=not good for pretty.

[b0ngman]

you're prettier than he is? what are you a ****ing girl?

[nbk]

you're prettier than he is? what are you a ****ing girl?

i think it was a joke mr. bongman

[nics1246]

IMO using momentum to your advantage=cheating
strict form= better results

[$AJ]

bouncing is never good. momentum is unavoidable, but doing **** like bouncing the bar off you or bouncing off of dips WILL lead to injuries

[Dominik]

I notice when I use momentum on my lifts I can do many more reps or more weight. On dips today when i went all the way down and Just 'bounced' right out i could easily do 15-20 reps @195 bodyweight. But when I went to the bottom and paused it was way harder! which way is better for building strength and size??? I see this jacked monster in the gym doing upright rows with 205, just bouncing it around, but he smells really bad....

Until you're at an advanced level where so-called "controlled" cheating and partials might be worth considering (like the pros do), I'd just stick with strict form.

The problem with using momentum at the bottom is you're cheating your muscles out of working hard right off the bat and giving them a free ride until later in the movement. This can be one way of targeting a sticking point, but pausing at the bottom of each rep and taking momentum out of it will force your muscles to overcome maximum resistance from a stretched position on each and every rep. I believe you're see superior results this way and get a lot stronger (by improving explosive strength).

[A-rod]

As an athlete i train my basic exercises with as much explosiveness as possible ,as you lower the bar quickly the muscles and tendons react like a rubber ball , storing energy , but your muscle still have to perform the task , momentum is my friend .....especially on benches , clean and pressses ,PLYO chins and even pressdowns but i dont see the problem with it as long as you are experienced and know how to use it to your advantage by putting more pounds on the freaking bar and overloading your muscles even further !

[WillDeadliftForFood]

I used to bounce a little on the bottom of dips, and I was able to crank out 185 bodyweight + 75. Now I use strict form, I hold a pause at the bottom. I'm only dipping 200 body + 35, but my arms are much, much bigger.

My experience (albeit short) in lifting, the pause really helped mass gains on every exercise I've used it on. The "bounce" may have its place, but I'd be worried about doing it with heavy weights.

But that's just me and all IMO.