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    how many sprints should I run?

    Im trying to get faster for football so Ive decided to run a sprint then wait about 30 seconds to simulate actual gameplay.

    how many sprints should I run? SHould I just keep going with 30 seconds or take a 2 minute break every now and then?
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    when we do linear speed work, we never work more than 150 yards total volume. General rule of thumb is to get full recovery between sprints and to STOP when your times get slower than the previous sprint.
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    it works like this.. if you run 10m rest 1min, 20m rest 2min, 40m rest 4min
    see the sequence. You should be fully recovered before your next sprint. If you only wait 30sec you working on endurance/fitness not speed
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    Originally Posted by RugbyStar12
    it works like this.. if you run 10m rest 1min, 20m rest 2min, 40m rest 4min
    see the sequence. You should be fully recovered before your next sprint. If you only wait 30sec you working on endurance/fitness not speed
    That doesn't sound quite right. You don't need that long to recover.
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    you nly need bout 15-20 sec rest in between sprints, for track we ran 22 200s it was the hardest thing ive ever done and we only got bout 30s rest towrads the end but for football you can never go wring with running hills i think theyre by far teh best thing you can do for speed
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    best drill to increase speed :: downhill running...trust me, it works.....or u could tie urself to the back of a car and have a buddy tug u along faster than ur capable of normally running
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    Originally Posted by payton34
    you nly need bout 15-20 sec rest in between sprints, for track we ran 22 200s it was the hardest thing ive ever done and we only got bout 30s rest towrads the end but for football you can never go wring with running hills i think theyre by far teh best thing you can do for speed
    NO if you want to gain speed you need to have FULL recovery... meaning AT LEAST 1min/10m sprinted.
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    Originally Posted by Malodrax
    NO if you want to gain speed you need to have FULL recovery... meaning AT LEAST 1min/10m sprinted.

    foolishness.

    I wish the body would operate in sucha predictable linear patteren, however it doesn't.
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    Originally Posted by moochems
    foolishness.

    I wish the body would operate in sucha predictable linear patteren, however it doesn't.
    if your questioning this fact than you are totally ignorant,
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    Originally Posted by therunners766
    best drill to increase speed :: downhill running...trust me, it works.....or u could tie urself to the back of a car and have a buddy tug u along faster than ur capable of normally running
    My God, take this advice with extreme caution, especially the last part. The above info will make you faster the first time you try them in a relative way. You will be moving faster but you will not be doing the work; your increase will be due to our friends gravity and the propulsion of the car. If you want to increase how fast you can TRULY run by WORKING you'll have to run hills, uphill not downhill. And you'll have to run with weights/parachute/etc. in order to train your body to move with resistance which will in turn make you faster. I have seen many great athletes practice their sprints tied to 45 and 100lb plates dragging them across the field in order to add resistance to their runs; I have never seen anyone tie themselves to the back of a moving vehicle and have it pull them along - that just may move into the number one slot for the "Stupidest Thing I Have Ever Heard." BTW, plyos in the weight room will help with explosiveness off the line, mix them in.
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    malodrax we seem to be out numbered on this one...

    please take our advice... get full recovery between sprints..
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    Originally Posted by Malodrax
    if your questioning this fact than you are totally ignorant,


    I'll agree that being fully rested between each sprint is a good idea for increasing speed from a fully recovered point of view.

    I'd love for you to give some facts to support your "fact" about the linear progression of rest time between sprints. I personally think it's a foolish way to look at it.

    The real question that needs to be answered is, do you need to be faster on one single play, or throughout the whole game? If you need speed during the plays that you won't have had a full recoverey for, then isn't it a bit foolish to solely train from a fully recovered state? I would mix it up a bit, maybe 2-3 days a week of full rest recovery, and 1-2 days of shortened recovery sprint training.


    And to my view on the running up hill thing: It will give you more power on each stride (since there will be more resistance) but speed is made up of length of stride, and number of strides in a given time period. Running up hill doesn't really help either, imo. It's hard to have long stride going up hill, and harder to have more strides in a given time period going up hill. The idea behind running downhill is that you will have to increase your strides/minute in order to stay on top of your feet. It also might help with stride distance as well.

    The only form of sprinting I have done at one point was up hill style. After I started doing mainly level ground training, I noticed I was faster (after a month or two). Other variables were changed during this transition though, so I don't know how viable this is. I am confident in level ground sprinting's advantage over uphill sprinting. That doesn't mean I would avoid uphill sprinting totally though.
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    Originally Posted by moochems
    I'll agree that being fully rested between each sprint is a good idea for increasing speed from a fully recovered point of view.

    I'd love for you to give some facts to support your "fact" about the linear progression of rest time between sprints. I personally think it's a foolish way to look at it.

    The real question that needs to be answered is, do you need to be faster on one single play, or throughout the whole game? If you need speed during the plays that you won't have had a full recoverey for, then isn't it a bit foolish to solely train from a fully recovered state? I would mix it up a bit, maybe 2-3 days a week of full rest recovery, and 1-2 days of shortened recovery sprint training.


    And to my view on the running up hill thing: It will give you more power on each stride (since there will be more resistance) but speed is made up of length of stride, and number of strides in a given time period. Running up hill doesn't really help either, imo. It's hard to have long stride going up hill, and harder to have more strides in a given time period going up hill. The idea behind running downhill is that you will have to increase your strides/minute in order to stay on top of your feet. It also might help with stride distance as well.

    The only form of sprinting I have done at one point was up hill style. After I started doing mainly level ground training, I noticed I was faster (after a month or two). Other variables were changed during this transition though, so I don't know how viable this is. I am confident in level ground sprinting's advantage over uphill sprinting. That doesn't mean I would avoid uphill sprinting totally though.
    dude this isn't even an argument... anyhting less than full recoveries btw sprints does not develop speed speed (as a rule of thumb once you slow down ie your sprint time is slower than your previous you should stop)

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    You're missing the intent. Who cares if he's the fastest on the first play of the game? Being able to be fast when you're tired/not fully recovered is what will help.
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    ugh, Im sorry guys

    I should rephrase it or something

    but what I meant was faster on every down, as in sprint endurance.

    but shouldnt you do both?

    resting to full recovery to increase my straight up speed

    then endurance training to keep my speed for every play?
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    Originally Posted by MAS2208
    My God, take this advice with extreme caution, especially the last part. The above info will make you faster the first time you try them in a relative way. You will be moving faster but you will not be doing the work; your increase will be due to our friends gravity and the propulsion of the car. If you want to increase how fast you can TRULY run by WORKING you'll have to run hills, uphill not downhill. And you'll have to run with weights/parachute/etc. in order to train your body to move with resistance which will in turn make you faster. I have seen many great athletes practice their sprints tied to 45 and 100lb plates dragging them across the field in order to add resistance to their runs; I have never seen anyone tie themselves to the back of a moving vehicle and have it pull them along - that just may move into the number one slot for the "Stupidest Thing I Have Ever Heard." BTW, plyos in the weight room will help with explosiveness off the line, mix them in.

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    Originally Posted by moochems
    You're missing the intent. Who cares if he's the fastest on the first play of the game? Being able to be fast when you're tired/not fully recovered is what will help.
    again do some research visit charliefrancis.com.. there is scientific evidence showing that SE training is not nessary for optimal athletic development in sports such as soccer (in fact it has been shownm to have permanant detrimental effects on speed).
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    Originally Posted by Nickdude
    ugh, Im sorry guys

    I should rephrase it or something

    but what I meant was faster on every down, as in sprint endurance.

    but shouldnt you do both?

    resting to full recovery to increase my straight up speed

    then endurance training to keep my speed for every play?
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    I was a pro tennis player for two years.

    Football is kinda start/stop like tennis....

    We trained with cones....sprint 20m, jog back slow 20m....then go again....we alternated this training with hill sprints some days....longer rests with these as they take more out of you.

    These guys are arguing.....I think for a professional sprinter the longer rest is good but for football that kind of training is totally useless.....how are you gonna aclimbatise to a football game with such long resting periods during training?

    I was SO much faster after these sprints....did it for over 4 months...worked for me. Just my opinion here....the rest time of minutes come after a set of 8-10 sprints....
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    Ok, you need full recovery to help build speed! pure speed! you do not need full recovery if you are developing endurance!
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    Ok, you need full recovery to help build speed! pure speed! you do not need full recovery if you are developing endurance!
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