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    Originally Posted by Double_Duece View Post
    That the way I see the comment.

    It has become socialy tolerable to call all whites racist.
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    Originally Posted by smj5351 View Post
    Are you suggesting that all white people are racist?
    read my last post. i clearly say im referring to a good deal of the rich, white people i know.


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    Originally Posted by Double_Duece View Post
    That the way I see the comment.

    It has become socialy tolerable to call all whites racist.
    I suppose it is the antithesis to the thesis of intolerance by whites many decades ago. Nowadays racism isn't only done by whites, it's done by every race.
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    Yeah we will see how he does to appease the Jewish American Community. There has been some instances of Anti-Semetism towards Jews done by blacks and there has been some rocky history between the groups so we will see what happens.
    he should do well considering his mother is jewish, has the birth certificate locked in a safe deposit box in Hawaii
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    Originally Posted by smj5351 View Post
    I suppose it is the antithesis to the thesis of intolerance by whites many decades ago. Nowadays racism isn't only done by whites, it's done by every race.
    did you even both to read my last post? its not about how racist everyone is.
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    This was a pretty terrible thread, OP. How many "white tools" are voting Obama based on reverse racism? Relatively speaking, probably not that many. You're making a fuss about relative non-issues.
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    Originally Posted by IronGuy83 View Post
    This was a pretty terrible thread, OP. How many "white tools" are voting Obama based on reverse racism? Relatively speaking, probably not that many. You're making a fuss about relative non-issues.
    I dunno if you read the long post I made a few back, I'm sorry but there is a large number of white people with this mindset. It may not be the white people you know, but it is in my my world.
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    Originally Posted by Double_Duece View Post
    It is their own responsibility, just as it is mine to better myself, I don't rely on the govt to tell me if I can be successful or not, I go out and make myself successful.
    Dude, when you're talking about a city as a whole, you are flat out wrong. This isn't about anything personal, it's about large groups of people. You knew that, yet you dodged it. It's called selective arguing and I'm not stupid. Next time compare apples with apples.
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    I completely support double dueces's idea that it is everyone's own responsability to better themselves. I believe that the government's role is to make sure people are FREE to PURSUE happiness. i don't think its the govoernment's responsability to make sure everyone IS happy.
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    I'm pretty sure it's the governments job to make sure everybody is on even footing. That is the underlying principle of government.

    So how are overcrowded inner city schools fair to the minorities who are the majority in those schools?

    I'd love to hear you explain that one.
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    Originally Posted by SpiderSense View Post
    I'm pretty sure it's the governments job to make sure everybody is on even footing. That is the underlying principle of government.

    So how are overcrowded inner city schools fair to the minorities who are the majority in those schools?

    I'd love to hear you explain that one.
    really? where did you see that in the constitution? That would be great if we lived in a Utopic society like karl marx detailed in communist manifesto. Unfortunately, we have seen communist governments in practice and, not only are they corrupt, but they are inefficient and everyone winds up poor. Our constitution says the government's job is secure our liberty.
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    Originally Posted by maurer View Post
    I dunno if you read the long post I made a few back, I'm sorry but there is a large number of white people with this mindset. It may not be the white people you know, but it is in my my world.
    I'm not denying that they exist, but they are relatively small in number. Like I said, I'm positive there are far more whites not voting for him because he's black. Racism is still more prevalent than reverse racism.

    Also, "utopic" isn't a word. You're looking for "utopian".

    And I'm from NJ, too.
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    Originally Posted by SpiderSense View Post
    I'm pretty sure it's the governments job to make sure everybody is on even footing. That is the underlying principle of government.

    So how are overcrowded inner city schools fair to the minorities who are the majority in those schools?

    I'd love to hear you explain that one.
    you get what you pay for. Unfortunately, the public school system doesn't work very well for the lower class. its time to try something else.
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    Originally Posted by IronGuy83 View Post
    I'm not denying that they exist, but they are relatively small in number. Like I said, I'm positive there are far more whites not voting for him because he's black. Racism is still more prevalent than reverse racism.

    And I'm from NJ, too.
    You from a rich, country club town?

    btw you're right about utopic, sorry its late.
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    Originally Posted by SpiderSense View Post
    I'm pretty sure it's the governments job to make sure everybody is on even footing. That is the underlying principle of government.

    So how are overcrowded inner city schools fair to the minorities who are the majority in those schools?

    I'd love to hear you explain that one.
    You are approaching socialism very quickly with your ideas.

    The Governments role is to defend your liberties not to ensure you are as succesful or happy as the next person.

    Not every situation is fair in life, but the people that make the best of the hand they are dealt are the ones who succeed.

    As far as the inner city schools go, it is called vouchers. If parents don't want their kids going there then they can send them to private school. I would hope that if kids are in an enviroment like that, it would cause them to work harder to become successful and give back to there community not ask the Government to give to there community.
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    You gonna answer the question?
    I believe I just did.
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    Originally Posted by Double_Duece View Post
    The Governments role is to defend your liberties not to ensure you are as succesful or happy as the next person.
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    Originally Posted by maurer View Post
    You from a rich, country club town?

    btw you're right about utopic, sorry its late.
    Yes, an exceptionally rich country club town in Morris County--one of the ten wealthiest counties in the U.S. at last check.

    And SpiderSense, it isn't the government's role to make sure everyone has "equal footing"; it's the government's role to make sure that everyone has equal opportunity. What you do with those opportunities is up to you.
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    I guess he got his answer and got OWNED!!

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    From Morris County too... Chatham specifically. I just know theres a very superior attitude here, and people pretend to like black people without actually respecting them. It's very observable if you choose to notice it. I have also seen the same mentality in some of my relative's towns in CT and NY. I'm glad you haven't observed the same where you are from.

    once again want to say its not all people in my town, just a good portion. They're nice people, I'd call them good people. But its still diabilitation prejudice nonetheless. I can't imagine its just here.
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    Another Obama "change" supporter. I live in Illinois, I have seen what the guy has done for my state.....


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    Originally Posted by maurer View Post
    From Morris County too... Chatham specifically. I just know theres a very superior attitude here, and people pretend to like black people without actually respecting them. It's very observable if you choose to notice it. I have also seen the same mentality in some of my relative's towns in CT and NY. I'm glad you haven't observed the same where you are from.
    I didn't think there were any black people in Chatham.

    I'm from Madison. The few racists here don't bother pretending.

    Personally, I grew up with a lot of black friends. It's really a non-issue for most.
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    Originally Posted by IronGuy83 View Post
    I didn't think there were any black people in Chatham.

    I'm from Madison. The few racists here don't bother pretending.

    Personally, I grew up with a lot of black friends. It's really a non-issue for most.
    Dude, there aren't any black people in chatham. Thats my point lol.
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    Originally Posted by Double_Duece View Post
    You are approaching socialism very quickly with your ideas.
    ***Look everybody Double Deuce and Maurer are doing the "hold hands" move***

    I never said our government, I said government period. The main underlying principle of government is that everybody is on as even ground as possible. That is what is mean by "ensuring liberties" dumb ass.

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    Originally Posted by SpiderSense View Post
    ***Look everybody Double Deuce and Maurer are doing the "hold hands" move***

    I never said our government, I said government period. The main underlying principle of government is that everybody is on as even ground as possible. That is what is mean by "ensuring liberties" dumb ass.

    But good job 69'ing with maurer. I bet everybody that disagrees in this thread could neg you guys much faster than you two can rep each other.
    Look up the Bill of Rights, if gives you your rights as a human being and is what our country was founded on.

    You wanted to know how to fix a problem and I gave you a solution, you want to have the government fix it and that is not the governments job.
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    you asked about how the public school system was fair to minorities. i explained my opinion. then you said you thought the role government is to put everyone on equal footing. In my opinion, equal footing means that you have the same access to all resources and services. Our system is based on earning, and it must be worked for. So I disagree. I explained my belief that our government's function is to maintain liberty. That is, in essence, all I said. And I only repped Double Dueces because I liked his philosophy. I have the liberty to do that, thank god for america. It had nothing to do with ganging up on you.
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    I love the irrational Obama hatred on these forums.

    This is why I support Obama, not because of his views but because he is so awesome at hiding who he really is:

    1) Secret caliph who is so secretive about his plans that he has joined a Christian church for 20 years, far before he had any kind of political position. No doubt this church is merely a front for al-Qaeda! I bet B. Hussein Obama is a cousin of Saddam and has attended some of his more lavish Iraqi parties!

    2) You cannot appreciate Obama's views at all. If you're white, you support Obama only because of your white guilt. If you're black, you support Obama only because he shares the same skin color as you. Obama has no actual viewpoint, he will win by guilt and race association alone.

    3) Obama has no clue about the Constitution, despite his Ivy League Law School degree. Yet a bunch of 16-18 year old Religion/Politics members knows the Constitution better than him. Only teenage members on the internet can decipher what the founding fathers have written about the Constitution.

    All this thread does is support my view that 90% of the R/P regulars are bat**** nutters who are too conceited, arrogant, and tunnelvisioned to not realize how stupid they really are.

    Carry on, as logic has no place on this board. Continue with your reasoning that all white Obama supporters are choosing him because of white guilt. Just leave common sense behind first as it has almost no place on this thread, let alone this board.
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    bump....
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