stubborn fat protocal by Lyle

[B.b. in stress!]

i just wanted to know that if i did this instead of my 45 min. moderate intensity session (as explained in the book), would it help me lose my fat more dramatically, or is it an extreme step into something my body isn't prepared for? also, im around the 20% range of bf, and dont know if it would b safe to jump into something like that when i start. thx!

[Alex88]

20% is not stubborn fat.
Lyle's alpha-mediated cardio methods are for when you are sub 10% and need that last push to lean out your bottom abs.

Just keep doing the 45 minute cardio sessions.

[B.b. in stress!]

alright thx

wait, when u say sub 10%, what exactly does that mean? single digits

[Alex88]

yes

[B.b. in stress!]

i know im gonna stick to the 45 min thing, but what would be the side effects of doing that stubborn fat thing with my composition? fat in general is just stubborn to lose on me anyway

[B.b. in stress!]

anyone?

[Alex88]

Dude, just do regular cardio. Alpha-mediated cardio is obviously more intense, and you burn more calories, hence resulting in a greater fat loss. If you can do that everyday, more power to you. Except you will probably overtrain.
Use common sense.

[B.b. in stress!]

its not that im gonna do it everyday, just once or twice a week. and yes, doing that will mean a decreased volume in working the legs, as stated in the article.

[Morbid_Mind]

Never heard of it in the first place, did a search and it yieled nothing.

[Confucius Taoka]

Yes, please explain Lyle's alpha-mediated cardio...

[LightCrow]

He has the study posted on his message board somewhere, but stubborn fatloss protocal is basically 10-15 minutes of intervals, followed by a 5 minute break, and then 30-60 minutes of moderate intensity cardio. I would seach the bodyrecomp board to get the specifics.

[B.b. in stress!]

ya thats it, but he made a few more changes to that. ive actually made a word document on those posts so i can refer to them. u may have to make the writing bigger though.

[B.b. in stress!]

wait, srry guys, im still confused about that stubborn fat thing:
-r u supposed to do it when u wake up, hence the fasted state?
-y would it b worse to do it throughout the cycle opposed to regular cardio?

i mean the fact is, wouldn't i b burning more fat that way? and yes, i have a high pain tolerance, so i can put up with it.

also he mentions lowering carbs, which is kinda hypocritical cause he says in his book that lowering carbs wouldn't b necessary because carbs in a lowered deficit will already show its effects on lowered insulin, and...well all these other things that i cant remember.

[mediatik]

wow thanks for the protocol i wil definitely try this i mean thats pretty hard but i will try to do it 3 times a week 15 minutes realy hard and then 35 to 40 minutes normal thanks again

[Morbid_Mind]

wait, srry guys, im still confused about that stubborn fat thing:
-r u supposed to do it when u wake up, hence the fasted state?

If you can't do it first thing in the AM do it about 3 hours after a meal.

[B.b. in stress!]

oh right, it says it right there in the article. lol

and yes people, u should do it in a fasted state first thing in the morning. i geuss i missed it somehow

[Alex88]

I don't think you understand the meaning of "stubborn fat". These are places on your body with an abnormally high number of A2 fat cells, and you simply can't lose them without doing an absurd amount of cardio with a huge caloric deficit (which would compromise your muscle mass). They simply are not an issue until you are in single digit %BF levels. At 20%, you don't have "stubborn fat". You just have fat.
So basically, you are subjecting yourself to a torturous cardio regimen targetted at a very specific scenario for no point at all.

[SquattsAndOats]

I don't think you understand the meaning of "stubborn fat". These are places on your body with an abnormally high number of A2 fat cells, and you simply can't lose them without doing an absurd amount of cardio with a huge caloric deficit (which would compromise your muscle mass). They simply are not an issue until you are in single digit %BF levels. At 20%, you don't have "stubborn fat". You just have fat.
So basically, you are subjecting yourself to a torturous cardio regimen targetted at a very specific scenario for no point at all.

This is correct.

OP, if you are 20% fat... you just have that good ol' friendly podgey fat. This fat is a piece of cake to burn as it just takes your standard cardio bouts, healthy eating with clean foods and a whole load patience.

The "Stubborn Fat" Lyle talks about is when you are around 10% Body fat (and I'd say 12% pushing it personally), like this:


Not like this:
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If you're 20% body fat and you use the Stubborn Fat Protocols advised by Lyle... it's not going to be beneficial to you as much as 45 minutes cardio sessions, eating healthy and patience. Maybe fasting will help... but this isn't necessary and it's better to work out in comfort than punishing yourself when there's not that much difference in benefit at this stage.

Once you've brought your body fat % down to 10% and you're basically plateauing from doing the above - THEN it's worth looking at getting super lean by using Lyle's approach.

Anyway. I'm on page 61 of this book (just about to read the 4 protocols - getting excited) and I'm going to start using these these tips as i'm coming up to 10% bf.


Either way - good luck bro! Hope this helps Take care and keep at it!

[sourmash1973]

This is correct.

OP, if you are 20% fat... you just have that good ol' friendly podgey fat. This fat is a piece of cake to burn as it just takes your standard cardio bouts, healthy eating with clean foods and a whole load patience.

The "Stubborn Fat" Lyle talks about is when you are around 10% Body fat (and I'd say 12% pushing it personally), like this:


Not like this:
.

If you're 20% body fat and you use the Stubborn Fat Protocols advised by Lyle... it's not going to be beneficial to you as much as 45 minutes cardio sessions, eating healthy and patience. Maybe fasting will help... but this isn't necessary and it's better to work out in comfort than punishing yourself when there's not that much difference in benefit at this stage.

Once you've brought your body fat % down to 10% and you're basically plateauing from doing the above - THEN it's worth looking at getting super lean by using Lyle's approach.

Anyway. I'm on page 61 of this book (just about to read the 4 protocols - getting excited) and I'm going to start using these these tips as i'm coming up to 10% bf.


Either way - good luck bro! Hope this helps Take care and keep at it!

Dude, this thread is 8 years old!!!!!!

Why do people keep digging up these old threads???

[lee__d]

"Use the search function"

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"Why do people bump old threads"

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[Ammex]

"Use the search function"

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"Why do people bump old threads"

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Lmao

[SquattsAndOats]

Better to bring up old threads than to create new ones!