Can some of you members/ Personal Trainers give me advice? (Pictures)

[Darkwatcher758]

I look so small muscle wise but so fat.. I want to get cut then gain some bulk but have not seen any decent results. Especially in the chest area, I really work that out but it still sags. Skin issues?

I've been working at incline for 185lbs, it's pretty easy to do. I can do about 4x8 without breaking a sweat and I try to add weight every week. The thing is I work out my chest the most but it doesn't seem to be changing much. I can flex it and control it more but when I flex it goes in like dimples and I honestly think its extra skin.

Is it due to the fact that I was obese at one point and now I'm not? I already had a tummy tuck would not like to get anymore surgery I rather to do it myself but overall it looks like my skin is having a hard time staying on my body and I would like to look more normal without a shirt one and feel embarrassed. I lift everyday and take bodybuilding serious yet without a shirt looks like I'm just some fat kid.

Can anyone give me some advice?

[void11]

You need to provide more details on routine and diet. It could be that you're still carrying excess fat around the chest. Lifting to gain more muscle mass in the chest doesn't remove the fat.

[AbAbber2k]

You have loose/excess skin from losing so much weight. IMHO cutting and bulking is the wrong way to go about things because even if you get yoru BF low, your skin is going to sort of hang off you and hide your definition. Do a slow, clean bulk. The more muscle mass you put on, the tighter your skin will get and THEN you can cut.

[Jneves]

You say you want to cut and then bulk, and also your trying to build up your chest.

So what exactly are you trying to do right now?

If you want to build up your chest that would happen when your trying to add muscle mass not when your trying to cut.

It does look like you have some loose skin and some fat on your chest. To take care of that you have the right idea, you need to lose some fat and add more muscle. It just sounds like you havent commited 100% to one or the other. Pick a goal(lose fat or add muscle) and go for it.

[GreenWave1]

Congratulations on losing the weight. I think AbAbber2k gave you good advice. Take your time and keep on pushing it. You'll get there.

[Darkwatcher758]

I'll be a specfic as possible but I am at work so I have to rush some things up.. I live on my own so my fridge has things only I can buy and eat.

To name some off my head these are the food groups I stick with:

Wheat Breat
Raw Almonds
Cottage Cheese
Eggs
Hot Sauce
Chicken
Turkey burgers
Veggies
Turkey slices
Tuna
apples

That's all I can think of as of now.

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Example Meals (this is almost everyday) ( Currently trying to get lean)
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5:30am - 5 eggs, 4 whites (1 whole) , 1 piece of wheat toast, 1/2 cup cottage cheese
8:00am - casein protein
9:30am - handful of raw almonds
11:00am - Green Apple
12:00pm - Chicken with Veggies
2:00pm - Chicken with Veggies (again) (smaller amount)
3:00pm - Whey protein shake
5:00pm - Raw almonds, no2 drink , fat burners (pre-work)
6:00pm - 7:45pm (GYM)
8:00pm - Whey Protein
8:30pm - Some sort of protein, Veggies, some cottage cheese
9:00pm - sometimes raw almonds or casein shake
10:30 - Sleep

It's about the same thing everyday unless I forget to bring a shake with me to work..

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Lifting:

4 routines per muscle group, 2 muscle groups per day, 4x8 reps
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Mondays: Chest/Triceps
Tues: HIIT / ABS
Wed: OFF day
Thurs: Back/Biceps
Friday: HIIT/ Abs
Sat: LEGS/ Shoulders
Sun: HIIT/ABS , sometimes more if I'm bored

Chest Routines:

Butterfly machine (4x8) increasing weight each time till I max.
Incline (4x8) increasing weight each time
Regular (4x8) increase
Decline (4x12) increase)
Chest Press (5x8) if chest doesn't feel maxed or pumped

[Darkwatcher758]

My body doesn't change whether i bulk or cut. and I just am getting a little sick and tired of putting so much effort and not even looking half decent. I'm not going hard on myself but when you work so hard at something you would want some decent results.

[AbAbber2k]

My body doesn't change whether i bulk or cut. and I just am getting a little sick and tired of putting so much effort and not even looking half decent. I'm not going hard on myself but when you work so hard at something you would want some decent results.

How much lean mass did you put on during your last bulk? Because of the state of your skin, you're going to have to gain significantly more in order to see results than someone with tighter skin.

[Darkwatcher758]

How much lean mass did you put on during your last bulk? Because of the state of your skin, you're going to have to gain significantly more in order to see results than someone with tighter skin.

I gave up about after 4 months, it was depressing I couldn't fit in any of my clothes and I had a fat face.. I just didn't feel very sociable and stayed home a lot.

maybe I did it wrong, but I just want something that can give me some results be it a bulk or cut I just figured with a cut i can at least see abs but that isn't even working..

my chest is really embarrassing though.. It just looks like I never lifted a piece of weight in my life.

[Darkwatcher758]

any other suggestions to throw in.

[GreenWave1]

There is no universal answer. If you want your chest to grow, then hit it with different movements (and rep ranges) and techniques (drop sets, rest pause, super sets, etc.) to see what it responds to. If it's not responding, try something else. Not everyone responds the same way to the same training. You need to find what works for YOU.

Stick with it, you'll get where you want to go. You've done the hardest part already (committing to training and losing the weight).

Good luck!

[zarg02]

OP, if you are having trouble with loose skin, fill it up. Do it right and take it slow, and get strong. The muscle will fill up loose skin just like fat would. Start with a nice basic routine like Bill Starr's 5x5, (just my personal preference. Plenty of other routines out there) and work on those big lifts like deads and squats.

Additionally, drink lots of water as that will help you retain skin elasticity.

[One More Time]

Congrats...How much did you lose? I was sorta in your shoes. My chest tightened/is tightening up more, but I still have loose skin in the stomach. How long you been lifting? Also, I know exactly what you mean about bulking. I think it is a self esteem issue...It makes me sick to think about purposely gaining weight. That is one of the main reasons I have been trying to just do recomp.

[NY Money Mike]

how long ahve u been doing the diet and lifting u stated aboev?

[Darkwatcher758]

I've been doing the same routine for about 2 months now..

I lost 120lbs.. and to be honest guys losing that weight wasn't as challenging as the **** I'm going through now. my strength has increase but thats about it..

[NY Money Mike]

I've been doing the same routine for about 2 months now..

I lost 120lbs.. and to be honest guys losing that weight wasn't as challenging as the **** I'm going through now. my strength has increase but thats about it..

2 months is NOTHING. COngrats on the weight but it takes time to put on muscle. Keep doing what youre doing and train HARD. report back in a year

[DCDave]

You have loose/excess skin from losing so much weight. IMHO cutting and bulking is the wrong way to go about things because even if you get yoru BF low, your skin is going to sort of hang off you and hide your definition. Do a slow, clean bulk. The more muscle mass you put on, the tighter your skin will get and THEN you can cut.

This sounds like good advice to me.