I've heard chest and shoulders should be trained on the same day because there's less risk of getting injury when the whole area is properly warmed up. If so, should you train the chest or shoulders first?
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02-27-2008, 04:58 PM #1
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02-27-2008, 06:33 PM #5
I would start with compound movements first unless you are trying to bring up a weakness.
yeah, because you can't pair major muscle groups with each other. Like hamstrings and quads. if you do your muscles will fall off.
(ever look into full body, or push pull or upper lower splits. They manage to do shoulders and chest on the same day)Many of life's failures are men who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up.
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02-27-2008, 06:42 PM #6
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02-27-2008, 08:04 PM #7
More intensity would be focusing extra hard on one major muscle group. Intensity is best maintained during a short period of time IMO. As for chest and shoulders on the same day, there is no problem with that. That's like saying you can't do chest and triceps on the same day, same difference. Just don't do it like that forever you know? Switch it up every so often and you'll be fine.
As for injury due to the area not being warmed-up, well I would hope you warm up before working any muscle group, so that should be irrelevantLast edited by Mike0430; 02-27-2008 at 08:06 PM.
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02-28-2008, 06:34 AM #8
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02-28-2008, 08:21 AM #10
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I do shoulders and chest on the same day. Lately I have done my shoulder presses before bench presses because I'd rather build my shoulders than my chest, and I like warming up my shoulders before I hit the bench. It seems safer for me.
You could always just rotate which are you focus on first if you are worried about working one group more than the other.
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02-28-2008, 08:55 AM #11
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You don't have to do anything.
I prefer to do one bodypart per day, to avoid premature exhaustion and increase customization and isolation in the workout.Bodybuilding is 60% training and 50% diet. Yes that adds up to 110%, because that's what you should be giving it. Change the inside, and the physique will follow.
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02-28-2008, 09:06 AM #12
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No hard and fast rule here. Just a matter of preference. I have often done chest on the same day as shoulders with good results. Right now I'm doing chest/triceps/shoulders on the same day. As others have said, there shouldn't be a great advantage in a lower risk on injury since you should be warming up properly for any muscle group anyway.
As far as which one first, I typically have done chest first since I didn't want pre-exhausted delts to be a weak link in my benching/chest work. On the other hand, doing the bench work first leaves the anterior delts a bit fatigued going into shoulder work, so I have at times done shoulders first in the workout to mix things up. That's half the fun - trying different stuff and mixing it up.~Forgiven~
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i disagree. what you are saying is that as long as you go to failure on the iso exercise, what is done before that has no effect when it comes to gains, if i understand correctly. i strongly believe in the power of prioritizing. working back before bi's will result in faster back development and slower biceps development than bi's before back. i think anybody would agree with me there.
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02-28-2008, 10:26 AM #15
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I did shoulders on my chest day a few weeks ago and it was not good. Bench Press involves the shoulders and incline has alot of shoulder involvement.
Anyways I did my full chest workout, flat, incline, decline, and flys. Then I went to Barbell Shoulder Pres and I was repping at least 20 pounds less then I normally do. Then dumbell shoulder press I was 15 pounds less.
That was a one time thing, I went back to my same old routine now.
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