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    What Exactly Happens when you Choke someone out? (serious)

    Do they go unconscious in anaerobic respiration after a while? Or do they just die?

    or do they first go unconscious....and then if you continue the hold....die?
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    Originally Posted by steve39 View Post
    Do they go unconscious in anaerobic respiration after a while? Or do they just die?

    or do they first go unconscious....and then if you continue the hold....die?
    If you get a really great choke on someone they'll go out almost instantaneous...obviously if this is a non-street fight you'll have stoppage as soon as someone 'feels' like they're going out or go out, so there really is no damage...but if you apply the choke for any longer you have the possibility of killing someone....I'm sure a novice would accidentally do something like that here or there. If you're trained in some sort of MMA and apply say a rear naked choke on someone in a bar, you can feel the point where they go loose and limp and you know to drop them..just make sure they lie face down so they don't swallow their tongue and you get a "D'OH!" killing.
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    Originally Posted by TommyTuffGuy View Post
    If you get a really great choke on someone they'll go out almost instantaneous...obviously if this is a non-street fight you'll have stoppage as soon as someone 'feels' like they're going out or go out, so there really is no damage...but if you apply the choke for any longer you have the possibility of killing someone....I'm sure a novice would accidentally do something like that here or there. If you're trained in some sort of MMA and apply say a rear naked choke on someone in a bar, you can feel the point where they go loose and limp and you know to drop them..just make sure they lie face down so they don't swallow their tongue and you get a "D'OH!" killing.
    That's what I was thinking. I asked because I was thinking if I ever got into a fight with a friend and didn't wanna strike him (they're all a lot smaller than me) I would just choke them out....but don't wanna kill them or anything lol

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    if you are doing most chokes correctly they are blood chokes, cutting off blood to the brain...your barrow (sp?) receptors in you brain tell your body to shut it down and go into a sort of "survival mode" thats what makes u go unconcious. if you held that long enough...sure u could kill someone.

    edit...forgot to add to your other question...as long as u let go right after they go out they should wake right back up. as soon as pressure is off the arterys the blood returns to the brain.
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    So basically, unless you know what you're doing...don't try this at home!

    Chokes in situations where you don't want to get into some sort of police riddled knock down drag out fights are probably only good for 'advanced' users anyhow...I think the risk of you damaging someone is higher by choking them out and not know what you're doing than throwing wild punches or taking someone down and blasting them out.

    But who knows? I choked someone out at a convention once who was wildin' out screamin' how he was a tommytuffguy and all his buddies were like "He's UFC! DONT FUK WIT HIM!" which I could tell couldn't possibly be true. I scooped his legs out from under him and positioned myself behind him and passed his ass out, he got up all disoriented like 10 seconds later not knowing where the funk he was.
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    Originally Posted by TommyTuffGuy View Post
    So basically, unless you know what you're doing...don't try this at home!

    Chokes in situations where you don't want to get into some sort of police riddled knock down drag out fights are probably only good for 'advanced' users anyhow...I think the risk of you damaging someone is higher by choking them out and not know what you're doing than throwing wild punches or taking someone down and blasting them out.

    But who knows? I choked someone out at a convention once who was wildin' out screamin' how he was a tommytuffguy and all his buddies were like "He's UFC! DONT FUK WIT HIM!" which I could tell couldn't possibly be true. I scooped his legs out from under him and positioned myself behind him and passed his ass out, he got up all disoriented like 10 seconds later not knowing where the funk he was.

    i disagree. i think a choke is a lot safer than throwing punches...if you catch a good punch on the button and go out as u fall to the ground...wat happens to your head when it bounces off the pavement? that could cause some serious brain damage.

    a true blood choke is fairly safe...passing out is your bodies natural defence to keep it safe, and use all available blood to power ur brain. if you are using an airway choke thats a bit different, and more dangerous than a blood choke.
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    This vid shows what happens

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=IXbHXVPriow
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    I've been out before (x-choke). I didn't even know I was choked out when I woke up staring at the ceiling. I was like WTF am I doing here on the mats? I thought I was dreaming about training for a second until my senses came back. My hands tingled a little and I felt out of it for a minute or so, but other than that it wasn't too bad.
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    if you get into a fight with your friends you don't have to choke them either. You could just put them face down on the ground with a knee in their back, like the cops and ask them if they had enough. Use little force, but if you have to apply a choke don't do a guillatine choke and risk hurting their neck or anything. A simple rear naked will work.
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    brain needs oxygen, oxygen is carried in the body through blood. Choking stops the flow of oxygen to the brain, which causes the shut down. if you hold it long enough it will kill some body.
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    Originally Posted by electrikmt View Post
    This vid shows what happens

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=IXbHXVPriow
    great video man. repped.

    Originally Posted by CR123 View Post
    if you get into a fight with your friends you don't have to choke them either. You could just put them face down on the ground with a knee in their back, like the cops and ask them if they had enough. Use little force, but if you have to apply a choke don't do a guillatine choke and risk hurting their neck or anything. A simple rear naked will work.
    Yeah I don't really like the guillotine.

    I fought a wrestler once....he went for a takedown and i just guillotined him. He tapped out VERY quickly and I could just feel the pain he was going through. Looked really painful for his neck and I almost felt bad afterward.
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    You guys never play space monkeys? Man I played that one night choked myself out like 10 times one night. Either way I was alright, that was a really reallllly gay game and dumb idea though like when I huffed 20+ of those baloons all in the same time frame, I was a moron when I was in elementary school.
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    theres blood chokes and air chokes

    a blood choke like an RNC or a triangle you can still breathe so you dont feel like you're being strangled or anything

    its a weird sensation you just kinda feel like your mind is in a room and the walls are closing in on you

    i think the worst one is a guillotine because some of the time dudes are just cranking it on your windpipe and strangling the **** out of you

    a triangle is way more calming i never feel as panicked
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    I fight in mma and I got choked unconscious the ref let the choke go to long I was out for a bit of time it was a (guillotine choke) pretty much when you hold a
    choke to long you go unconscious you shouldn't be able to hold a choke for over 2-3 minutes the ref let it go for 2 and a half minutes.When you hold a choke for the right time then you shouldn't go unconscious.
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    Originally Posted by MTfighting View Post
    I fight in mma and I got choked unconscious the ref let the choke go to long I was out for a bit of time it was a (guillotine choke) pretty much when you hold a
    choke to long you go unconscious you shouldn't be able to hold a choke for over 2-3 minutes the ref let it go for 2 and a half minutes.When you hold a choke for the right time then you shouldn't go unconscious.
    Surely you must have some brain damage now if you were choked out for 2 and a half minutes? Do you remember the person you used to be? Have your family told you you're different now?
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    Originally Posted by MTfighting View Post
    I fight in mma and I got choked unconscious the ref let the choke go to long I was out for a bit of time it was a (guillotine choke) pretty much when you hold a
    choke to long you go unconscious you shouldn't be able to hold a choke for over 2-3 minutes the ref let it go for 2 and a half minutes.When you hold a choke for the right time then you shouldn't go unconscious.
    uphuckingwotm8?

    If the choke is properly executed then you go out in less than 10 seconds, no matter who you are. In my gym theres an easy rule with chokes, if you know you have the choke in and the person hasn't tapped out in 10 seconds (yes, we count when we get the choke in properly) then you let the choke go, he is either out or you didn't have the choke and there is no point of holding on longer. If he would have held it for more than 30 sec you would have serious brain damage or you would be dead.
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    they go to sleep. like zzzzzz sleep. blood isnt going to the brain so it shuts down

    i know that feel. a brown belt put me in a loop choke (gi bjj) and before i knew it , it felt like my whole body had the same numb feeling that happens when your hand or arm falls asleep..and i heard people talking to me but i couldnt respond. it was cray
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    Put a few guys out with chokes in my time (all street stuff) - everyone knows to tap when they roll.

    As said, a good blood choke hits both arteries running to the brain, and if they are pinched with force (as occurs in a RNC), the guy or gal should go out in about.... 2-3 seconds. After that you'll feel them immediately go limp. This is when I immediately let go regardless of the situation. I have a rather vivid memory of one fellow immediately getting muscular seizures when he went out (eyes open the whole time) before he snapped back.

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