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    BMR. awake vs sleeping

    does anyone happen to know off hand how many awake hours a basic daily intake calculator uses?

    my reason for asking this is that i dont want to short change myself due to the fact that sometime im awake a lot longer than normal. on those days im sure i would need to eat more because of the added "awake" time.


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    probably 24-8 (=16)... thats my guess

    i'm pretty sure you burn more cals sleeping than resting anyway, you'd only need to take in a significant amount more calories if you're burning a significant amount of cals.
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    Those calculators have a pretty big fudge factor built into them anyways. The few extra calories from being awake vs. being asleep makes no statistical difference in fat loss. Why is it that you want an hour-by-hour breakdown of your RMR anyways? It is pretty meaningless.
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    just curious thats all. sometimes i dont sleep (i have a very hard time sleeping) and i wanted to know if i should eat more on those days due to the extra hours awake.
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    Originally Posted by u.demartino
    just curious thats all. sometimes i dont sleep (i have a very hard time sleeping) and i wanted to know if i should eat more on those days due to the extra hours awake.
    short answer: it doesn't really make a difference, but you should try to sleep a full 8 hours to avoid the effects of long-term stress on the body (due to things like..... staying up late lol)

    even shorter answer: no!
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    yeah i try everything to sleep. melatonin, valerian root, tea, etc.


    i just ordered some ZMA, we shall see.
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    What about 5-htp? Benadryl also works, probably shouldnt use it very often though.
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    Hmmm...I had thought BMR was your minimum caloric requirement for staying alive...in other words, it doesn't matter how many hours you sleep; your BMR should stay the same.

    The only difference is how much extra you burn when awake due to activity. Is this incorrect?
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    5-htp works pretty well as a sleeping aid, but it is also a minor appetite surpressant.
    5-htp also has the added benefit of being a seratonin booster. (mood booster) Which means it works well for people who are cutting since reduced calories tends to put people on edge.
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    Originally Posted by Alex88
    What about 5-htp? Benadryl also works, probably shouldnt use it very often though.

    never did 5-htp, but benadryl and tylenol PM dont work (they both have the same active ingredients that cause sleep, with added acetaminophen in the tylenol.
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    6 years late, but anyway--

    Originally Posted by u.demartino View Post
    does anyone happen to know off hand how many awake hours a basic daily intake calculator uses?

    my reason for asking this is that i dont want to short change myself due to the fact that sometime im awake a lot longer than normal. on those days im sure i would need to eat more because of the added "awake" time.


    anyone know?

    I was looking into the same thing -- not due to wondering how much to eat based on my sleep, but rather because I wanted to deduce my RMR so that I know what to subtract from my "calories burned" from my HR monitor. If I burn 1,000 calories in a workout that's an hour long, I can't add 1,000 calories to my diet--I know I'm "double-dipping" for that hour, since I already have my total BMR/RMR estimate considered.

    So here's the bottom-line from my research:

    You burn twice as many calories per hour awake as you do asleep. For someone 170 lbs with a BMR/RMR of 2,000 cal per day, my best estimate based on my research is that you're burning 50 cal/hr asleep and 100 cal/hr awake (resting).
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