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    Question What is the name of this machine?

    i cannot find any photos but...a description..

    you are tilted at a 45 degree angle, chest facing the direction of the weight, and you pull the weight up towards you with the handles on each side...
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    It's called a T-Bar Row. In the old days, we used to put one end of a barbell in a corner, load up the other, grab the bar just below the plates, and row. The machine you are talking about supports your chest as well, which helps to protect your lower back. It's one of the few actual improvements I really like.
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    Originally Posted by riverman
    It's called a T-Bar Row. In the old days, we used to put one end of a barbell in a corner, load up the other, grab the bar just below the plates, and row. The machine you are talking about supports your chest as well, which helps to protect your lower back. It's one of the few actual improvements I really like.
    No way, I still do 'em the old school way, just like Ronnie does 'em at old Metroflex. He's right though, you're describing a t-bar row machine. They don't all have pads, some work more or less like the bar in the corner trick. The difference is isolation vs. power. You can't really cheat with the machine so it's an isolation exercise, no problem but IMO bb rows are better. I love the old school t-bar rows for pure power.
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    Hi, FarEastBeast. You are probably right, but at 50 I tend to do all my moves real strict. Still use over 4 plates though.
    Whereabouts in Japan are you? In '64 - '66 I lived in Tokyo. Fred Hatch had a health club in the Azabu Towers where I lived for a year. Still have a book I found years later written by him.
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    Her is a pic of a T-Bar Row machine. It belongs to 21guns from Anabolex
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    Originally Posted by riverman
    It's called a T-Bar Row. In the old days, we used to put one end of a barbell in a corner, load up the other, grab the bar just below the plates, and row. The machine you are talking about supports your chest as well, which helps to protect your lower back. It's one of the few actual improvements I really like.

    i still use this method as well. Gotta agree with FareastBeast, its just a better excercise for pure power. In my opinion i hate T-bar row machines because they take away from the raw power of just ripping the barbell up and down while holding on with all you have. Im sure you can get a "more perfect" form on one of these machines but its just not the same.

    I think it is body solid that makes a swivelling barbell holder for bent over 1 and 2 arm barbell rows so that you can safely do these. The only thing i hate about doing the old school method is when you really get up there in weight, the laws of science take over and if it is not securely held down on the side on the floor, you have a problem with the barbell moving all over the place and/or flipping up. OH NO! lol
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    I bought this http://www.pro-fitness.com/single.shtml?c=9&i=51 for my home gym and love it - bombproof build quality.
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    Originally Posted by riverman
    Hi, FarEastBeast. You are probably right, but at 50 I tend to do all my moves real strict. Still use over 4 plates though.
    Whereabouts in Japan are you? In '64 - '66 I lived in Tokyo. Fred Hatch had a health club in the Azabu Towers where I lived for a year. Still have a book I found years later written by him.
    Hey Riverman, missed this the first time around. I'm in Hiroshima actually. Wow, so you were in Tokyo for the Olympics, huh? Pretty cool.

    Re: the thread. Personal preference but I like going strict on barbell rows and using the improvised t-bar as a power movement. Just not a big fan of t-bar machines, especially the chest pad ones. Looks like a good solid unit there though.
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    Always preferred, found the classic hinged T-bars better-not the improvized ones with a bar in the corner, because balance issues with it distract from the movement itself. Classic T-bars are the best rowing movements along with the padded version and hammer rows.
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    Originally Posted by pumpster
    Always preferred, found the classic hinged T-bars better-not the improvized ones with a bar in the corner, because balance issues with it distract from the movement itself. Classic T-bars are the best rowing movements along with the padded version and hammer rows.
    See I always hate trying to balance on that little footplate they have and I prefer using the v-bar for a really good power movement. Again, just preference. Also, I don't have access to a regular t-bar machine at the moment so either way I'm down to the improvised version.
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    Seated Rows are my favourite exercise. I pump it all out for 10 minutes on those machines.
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