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    Where the hell does all this money come from that Obama wants to give away???

    listen to him talk for a short while on TV, he promises to give money and aid to damn near everyone and everything. Is this all through raising taxes? I hear nothing about cutting spending. Where does all this cash come from?
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    Turn around and face the mirror. It's what good socialists do, break the backs of the middle class and create a bigger gap between the rich and poor.
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    Originally Posted by randomhero97 View Post
    Turn around and face the mirror. It's what good socialists do, break the backs of the middle class and create a bigger gap between the rich and poor.
    I hate the fact that you're right
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    Originally Posted by MrGuitar View Post
    listen to him talk for a short while on TV, he promises to give money and aid to damn near everyone and everything. Is this all through raising taxes? I hear nothing about cutting spending. Where does all this cash come from?
    It's called priortizing. You take away from something less important or over budgeted and re-distribute it else where. Sometimes it's good; some times it's bad.
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    Probably from not being in Iraq
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    Originally Posted by MrGuitar View Post
    listen to him talk for a short while on TV, he promises to give money and aid to damn near everyone and everything. Is this all through raising taxes? I hear nothing about cutting spending. Where does all this cash come from?
    See, what liberals do is take away YOUR money, because you don't know the best way to spend it, and give to people that don't have any, because they already spent all theirs and aren't good at getting their own. It's called "wealth redistribution", and it's all the rage nowadays.
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    Did you actually listen?

    Hundreds of billions are being dumped into Iraq at the moment. In addition tax cuts on the wealthy will be repealed.

    The US is not a poor country and this falacy that there simply isn't enough money for some of these programs and yet we can afford to provide for Iraqis is complete garbage.
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    Its either a Tax and Spend liberal or a
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    either way the government is gonna be spending your money, no difference anymore in the partys in that aspect
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    Originally Posted by Ruhanv View Post
    Did you actually listen?

    Hundreds of billions are being dumped into Iraq at the moment. In addition tax cuts on the wealthy will be repealed.

    The US is not a poor country and this falacy that there simply isn't enough money for some of these programs and yet we can afford to provide for Iraqis is complete garbage.
    If the Bush tax cuts are allowed to expire it will affect more than just the uber rich.
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    Originally Posted by Ruhanv View Post
    Did you actually listen?

    Hundreds of billions are being dumped into Iraq at the moment. In addition tax cuts on the wealthy will be repealed.

    The US is not a poor country and this falacy that there simply isn't enough money for some of these programs and yet we can afford to provide for Iraqis is complete garbage.
    The government wastes billions of dollars every year on programs that are shown to have no effect, as well as wasting billions more on projects that DO have measurable effect that the government has no constitutional right or responsibility to be doing. The government is not your mommy, nor is it your friendly big brother there to take care of you and guide you on your way gently through life.
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    Wasn't it Hillary who advocated $5,000 to every American citizen at age 18?
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    Originally Posted by Ruhanv View Post
    Did you actually listen?

    Hundreds of billions are being dumped into Iraq at the moment. In addition tax cuts on the wealthy will be repealed.

    The US is not a poor country and this falacy that there simply isn't enough money for some of these programs and yet we can afford to provide for Iraqis is complete garbage.
    But how long is will his withdrawal take? Won't have the troops out by 2013 so you will still be spending billions of dollars each year in Iraq.
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    Originally Posted by Ruhanv View Post
    In addition tax cuts on the wealthy will be repealed.
    Translation: Increase taxes on the successful and productive members of society
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    Originally Posted by Organichu View Post
    Wasn't it Hillary who advocated $5,000 to every American citizen at age 18?
    I watched one of her interviews, and lost track of the number of times she described how she would Give money to another group. Strangely, she never mentioned who she would Take that money from first.
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    So you're cool with dumping billions into some foreign country (Iraq) but not willing to sacrifice for some of your own people?

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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Translation: Increase taxes on the successful and productive members of society


    The ones who take advantage of every working class person in their own nation? Yeah, sounds about right. And if they have so much money then why should they care if it if given to those who need it? You can't take it with you when you die.
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    Originally Posted by Ruhanv View Post
    Did you actually listen?

    Hundreds of billions are being dumped into Iraq at the moment. In addition tax cuts on the wealthy will be repealed.

    The US is not a poor country and this falacy that there simply isn't enough money for some of these programs and yet we can afford to provide for Iraqis is complete garbage.
    We can't provide for the Iraq's or ourselves at the moment. We need to start paying down the deficit and not spending more and more money and government programs.
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    Originally Posted by twiddyINC View Post
    And if they have so much money then why should they care if it if given to those who need it? You can't take it with you when you die.
    Class warfare at its best.

    I bet there are plenty of people who make less than you. Are you willing to start handing over your "extra" cash until everyone has exactly the same amount? Why shouldn't you actually expect to be rewarded for the effort and productivity you put into your job?
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Class warfare at its best.

    I bet there are plenty of people who make less than you. Are you willing to start handing over your "extra" cash until everyone has exactly the same amount? Why shouldn't you actually expect to be rewarded for the effort and productivity you put into your job?
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    All of you guys that's pro redistribution of weatlth into social programs or giving to the needy or whatever you want to call it, how many of you are filing a tax return this year? Also, for you champions of the poor how much volunteer work do you perform and what kind of charities do you donate to? I won't hold my breath on this one.
    "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

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    Originally Posted by Ibanez View Post
    Strong Straw man.
    What "straw man" was in that reply? The post I was responding to very clearly justified taking money from those who have "so much of it" so it could be handed over to someone else (as in any classic liberal government program). I was simply asking what happens when, eventually, someone decides that you have "too much" money, and there are others more deserving of your hard-earned paycheck.
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    Originally Posted by Ruhanv View Post
    Did you actually listen?

    Hundreds of billions are being dumped into Iraq at the moment. In addition tax cuts on the wealthy will be repealed.

    The US is not a poor country and this falacy that there simply isn't enough money for some of these programs and yet we can afford to provide for Iraqis is complete garbage.
    Seeing as Obama isn't pulling the troops out any time soon...we're back to square One...where does he get the funding?
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    Originally Posted by MrGuitar View Post
    listen to him talk for a short while on TV, he promises to give money and aid to damn near everyone and everything. Is this all through raising taxes? I hear nothing about cutting spending. Where does all this cash come from?
    Originally Posted by Ruhanv View Post
    Did you actually listen?

    Hundreds of billions are being dumped into Iraq at the moment. In addition tax cuts on the wealthy will be repealed.

    The US is not a poor country and this falacy that there simply isn't enough money for some of these programs and yet we can afford to provide for Iraqis is complete garbage.
    Let's ASSUME that the government should spend on those prescriptions Obama has suggested...AND that the United States has the money for them, he still hasn't satisfied the question of HOW he plans to do it. The explanation that he'd divert the money from our Iraq efforts to support his new spending initiatives wants for greater detail. Additionally, he has Congress to account for, which is the branch legally entitled to make spending appropriations.

    Lest Obama mania overtake the entire country, I believe he will face considerable resistance, if not defeat, come general election time unless he begins to give specifics.
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    Originally Posted by DMax7 View Post
    Its either a Tax and Spend liberal or a
    Borrow and Spend conservative

    either way the government is gonna be spending your money, no difference anymore in the partys in that aspect
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