Which do you guys like better? Which is better for triceps?
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03-25-2006, 12:48 PM #1
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03-25-2006, 04:16 PM #9
SKULLS SHOULD NOT EVEN BE AN EXERCISE. The bar goes behind and all the way down BEHIND the head. Much more effective, less stress on the elbows.
Use an E-Z curl or hammer grip bar, or two hands around the end of one dumbbell.
Bizarre the misinfo, how many think they're the same thing.
Dips & CG benches do not hit the same areas.Last edited by pumpster; 03-25-2006 at 04:20 PM.
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03-25-2006, 04:21 PM #10Originally Posted by JOHN GARGANI
and the S.K. (I've now heard head-banger lol and forehead-smasher) is more isolation, and my elbows are fine.Time To Re-Schedule
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03-25-2006, 04:26 PM #11
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Tyrbo: you are lucky, because , for many of us, those skull crushers were just hell on the elbows......
yes, it is true: with lying extensions, you are definitely getting momentum from your lats in starting the motion, but when you finish it off, it is all triceps, and the net effect is , as I have said, you can handle much heavier weight.....
it is a modified cheat, designed to protect your elbow joints......
but YOU, my Superman friend, have BIONIC JOINTS!!!! LOL.....
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03-25-2006, 04:33 PM #12
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03-25-2006, 04:38 PM #14Originally Posted by JOHN GARGANI
(I've never done the extension before, and I've never seen guys in my gym doing it, but it seems a lot better)
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03-25-2006, 04:58 PM #17
Both can be hell on elbows IMHO... I can attribute at least a few boughts of tendonitis soley to them. However, John has it right, extensions > skulls.
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03-25-2006, 05:25 PM #19Originally Posted by JOHN GARGANIWe are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, Then, Is not an act, But a habit. - Aristotle
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03-25-2006, 06:20 PM #22
Extensions are not cheats at all; momentum is controlled by the user. For example, if the bar is brought down behind the head to touch the bench there's no momentum.
Skulls using good form are not the same as extensions, aren't nearly as good a stretch or as effective. Skulls target the muscle closer to the elbow, which is not the main part of the triceps. In addition, going anywhere near failure with skulls is dangerous.
Seated version's best done leaning back against a back support.
Lying versions are many, some very much like pullovers. One version is called the pullover and press. These are the best size builders along with seated extensions.Last edited by pumpster; 03-25-2006 at 06:38 PM.
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I myself switch between lying tricep extensions (ez bar, not db) and seated overhead extensions as my main mass excercises.
If I got this right, by your descriptions, you're saying the skullcrusher is a tricep extension done to the forehead with the upper arm pretty much perpendicular to the floor.
The lying tricep extension is the same motion with the upper arms tilted back so that the weight and bar ends up behind the head.
Both motions have the elbows locked into their respective positions?
If I remember right, I think I do slightly more weight with skullcrushers, but mostly do lying extensions."When my opponent contracts, I expand. And when he expands, I contract.
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03-25-2006, 06:52 PM #26
The difference in weight's unimportant, it's the feel in the muscle.
Elbow positioning's not that important-some say it is, I haven't found that to be the case at all. Don't have to be close together. Just do the movement fairly strictly, then add some cheats at the end. Try different bars-hammer grip, E-Z curl, etc.
Another version worth trying is extensions that resemble pullovers in that the weight is lowered much lower off and below the bench, then raised back up using the usual extension motion. Don't worry about elbow positioning.
Bench dips are a great alternative to dips or close-grips.
http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/exerc...extensions.htm
http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/exercise3/jmpress.htmLast edited by pumpster; 03-25-2006 at 07:16 PM.
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