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    Bicep Isolator?

    I heard about this product from a web page. It supposedly makes your bicep exercises much more efficent. I was wondering if anyone has ever used it. Does it work?
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    i own one, and i really like it. it seems to isolate the bicep and it appears to make curling a lower weight harder, this is because u cannot cheat at all
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    a/b how much did u pay 4 it?
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    r u talking about an arm blaster?
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    TRY THIS! Trust me, it's a great bicep isolation excersise, and it really works. I actually use it in place of isolation curls.

    When you are curling, stick your elbows in your abs, not just locked by your side, but actually with your elbows right in front of you on top of your abs about 5" - 6" apart. They're great, and they really keep you from cheating.

    Just trust me, and try them.
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    I friggin hate the arm blasters. its uncomfortable and i didnt fell any real difference. Standard stand curls did more for me. Try brother curls with a friend. go from 9 down to 1 and then back up in sets. Ex first set 9 they switch to friend and the when they finish that set go to 8 and so on and so on.
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    Arm blasters will reduce momentum. You could just stand against a wall for a cheaper version.
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    i paid 10 dollars for one
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    Did anyone try my excersise posted above???
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    Originally posted by Aetolos
    Did anyone try my excersise posted above???
    I use to do it before, but I don't anymore b/c it's too easy to get leverage.
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    What do you mean it's to easy to get leverage?
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    Aetolos when you have your elbows against your abs you are actually cutting the range of motion of the exercize and providing a surface to help you apply force against. This gives you more leverage so you can lift more. Putting your elbows against your abs is a natrual tendency so that isn't bad necessarily.
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    putting your elbows against your abs is a natural tendancy?
    that's one of the natural tendancies I must have missed out on
    actually it's uncomfortable for me to try to put my elbows on my stomach
    unless I"m doing it wrong
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    not natural
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    Originally posted by firstmark
    Aetolos when you have your elbows against your abs you are actually cutting the range of motion of the exercize and providing a surface to help you apply force against. This gives you more leverage so you can lift more. Putting your elbows against your abs is a natrual tendency so that isn't bad necessarily.
    How would it cut down your range of motion? Let me answer my own question...it doesn't. How would that help you curl more? Once again, I will answer my own question...it doesn't. It actually makes it harder. If your elbows are firmly planted on your abs it would be harder (yes more difficult) to cheat because you can't use your shoulders to help with that little extra thrust motion. I agree with it not being very natural form (it's not far off or outlandish in that respect, but I do see your point). But the main thing is IT WORKS.
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    or u could use a wall...
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    Putting your elbows in your abs CAN'T be good for your joints, even just holding them without weight is uncomfortable. Anyway, you _could_ still rock with your elbow in your abs. Best thing to do is just not ****ing cheat, if your that concerned... then don't! simple. There are many techniques which don't break your arms, lock your elbows into the wall, preacher curl and do slow perfect reps...
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    Originally posted by xTorsyon
    Putting your elbows in your abs CAN'T be good for your joints, even just holding them without weight is uncomfortable. Anyway, you _could_ still rock with your elbow in your abs. Best thing to do is just not ****ing cheat, if your that concerned... then don't! simple. There are many techniques which don't break your arms, lock your elbows into the wall, preacher curl and do slow perfect reps...
    exactly
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    Originally posted by xTorsyon
    Putting your elbows in your abs CAN'T be good for your joints...
    Once again, I will disagree. This doesn't change your joint position at all. End of that. Period. And I never said you couldn't cheat on it, I just said it would help. Of course the key is not to cheat at all (like with any other excersise) So basicaly, don't allow yourself to cheat and quit putting this excersise down.

    I will even go as far to say these are better than preacher curls. They will give you a wider range of motion. With preacher curls, once you have your elbows perpendicular with the ground, you just took all of the stress off of your bicep. And you do not get that with these. Maybe you don't understand exaclty what I am talking about, so if you don't, I will try to get a pic in. Just keep in mind I don't have a digital camera, so it may not be very soon.
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    The range of motion is reduced in a similar fashion to how curling with a barbell has a lesser range of motion than with dumbells.
    The bar itself is stopped at the legs and you can go no farther down while with a dumbell you can curl slightly further back.
    With your elbows against your abs you are also reducing the range of motion in a similar fashion anything that takes the arms from being by your side and instead brings them to more of an angled approach as putting your elbows against your abs does will slightly reduce range of motion. With your arm against your ab you can have more of a bend in your forearm in relation to your upper arm this makes a curl easier than a curl from an absolute dead hang is. If you think this is not so try curling with perfect form without your arm jammed into your abs and see if you can do as much.
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    Also one tends to lean more forward and back and uses abs as a fulcrum to apply leverage against to help the lift up when you have your elbows against your abs.
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    Aetolos as long as you use consistant form and a reasonable range of motion you can progress rather you have your arms against your abs or not on curls. This really is a minor point but you can lift slightly more weight the way you are doing it.
    I would not say arms against your abs is bad for your joints.
    I used to do them more this way.
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    Yeah I know there's not a phenominal difference. I was just arguing my point that these are not less beneficial or dangerous. And that I think they are a good replacement for preacher curls and concentration curls.
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    Originally posted by firstmark
    Also one tends to lean more forward and back and uses abs as a fulcrum to apply leverage against to help the lift up when you have your elbows against your abs.
    One also tends to arch his back when he first starts dead-lifting. Do you see where I am gong with this?
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    Aetolos I bet lots of people doing dumbell curls do it the way you do without even noticing. The body naturally wants to find the most efficient way of doing things.
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    when i curl i put my arms into my sides should i have to use my biceps and i dont swing the barbell up
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    Originally posted by firstmark
    Aetolos I bet lots of people doing dumbell curls do it the way you do without even noticing. The body naturally wants to find the most efficient way of doing things.
    Well, you're gonna need something a little stronger than "I bet" to sufficiently argue your point. I have NEVER seen a SINGLE person try them this way.

    And just to respond to your "The body naturally wants to find the most efficient way of doing things." reply, my body just didn't naturally fall into this position while I was curling one day. I doubt anyone else's would either.
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    I said lots not all or most. And I am sure more than one person does curls your way without realizing it till they look in a mirror or think about it. I used to do them more your way when I went too heavy. And I have seen others do this too so it is done by people and not just one person or two in the world.
    You also see the same type of phenomenon in those who carry heavy long ladders about. They kind of rest the ladder on their obliques rather than holding it farther from their body.

    I bet if you asked a sample of people to hold a large dumbell or duffel bag in a curl position as long as they could that several people out of your sample would start to lean the weight against their abs to give them a more efficient angle for holding the weight and they would also lean back for leverage without even knowing because it is a more efficient way to hold the weight.
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    Originally posted by firstmark
    I said lots not all or most. And I am sure more than one person does curls your way without realizing it till they look in a mirror or think about it. I used to do them more your way when I went too heavy. And I have seen others do this too so it is done by people and not just one person or two in the world.
    You also see the same type of phenomenon in those who carry heavy long ladders about. They kind of rest the ladder on their obliques rather than holding it farther from their body.

    I bet if you asked a sample of people to hold a large dumbell or duffel bag in a curl position as long as they could that several people out of your sample would start to lean the weight against their abs to give them a more efficient angle for holding the weight and they would also lean back for leverage without even knowing because it is a more efficient way to hold the weight.
    What are you trying to say here? I still think that you don't understand. Your elbows are actually planted firmly on your abs. Not on your obliques. Your elbows aren't pinned to your side, they are on your stomach.
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    I was giving a real world example of how people lean weights against their body for leverage rather against the obliques or the abs.
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