Friend needs size back to get $$$$$$

**RADIRON** · 02-20-2008, 01:58 PM

I have a buddy of mine. A year ago, he was about 240 @ 10% (5?11?). He was pretty impressive and looked like less than 10% to be honest. Anyway, he got injured and that was followed by an extended layoff for family issues. He has a great opportunity to make some serious cash but he needs to look like he did then. He will start back at the gym in a week or two and must get huge again ASAFP. Right now, he?s lost a TON of size and is hovering at about 210. He is naturally pretty lean so even though he?s ripped now, even without working out, his arms, and delts, and lats have pretty much gone the way of Brad Pitt.

I am old-school and always just recommend protein, creatine, and tons of food. Is there anything that can help him pack on the size again pretty quickly? No juice!! He used some PHs waaay back but made the biggest gains without them. I know that muscle memory will play a part but I?m just wondering if there is any help supplement-wise. The training intensity , whey, creatine, and food will be there without worry. This is big time money for him if he can get back in shape quickly.

**Insulin Ihsaan** · 02-20-2008, 02:02 PM

pro-hormones....if hes knowledgeable enouph about them

**87lifter** · 02-20-2008, 02:04 PM

Beta-Alanine
GlycerGrow

**Insulin Ihsaan** · 02-20-2008, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by 87lifter

Beta-Alanine
GlycerGrow

yeah....thats gonna get you jacked fast!11!! LOL

**RADIRON** · 02-20-2008, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Insulin Ihsaan

pro-hormones....if hes knowledgeable enouph about them

How about something a bit safer like Activate Xtreme? Heard a lot of good things about that. Or are you tralking only hardcore PHs?

**BigTime22** · 02-20-2008, 02:31 PM

Bold, Havoc, Sizeon, Real Gains

**RADIRON** · 02-20-2008, 07:18 PM

Any other suggestions?

**RADIRON** · 02-20-2008, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by BigTime22

Bold, Havoc, Sizeon, Real Gains

Bold & Havoc together? How long? Any sides?

**bosox1362** · 02-20-2008, 07:45 PM

At 5'11'', a lean 210 does not look like brad pitt... haha. Pitt is probably 180 soaking wet.

Anyways, tell him to try a X-factor/Activate Xtreme stack... and if he has the money throw in some Size ON, SuperPump250, and some muscle milk (love this stuff for bulking up... haters go away).

That would be one pricey stack, but it is pretty much the best thing you can do out side of PHs.

**Get Big_07** · 02-20-2008, 07:51 PM

look into anabolic xtreme hyperdrol and mass fx

**RADIRON** · 02-20-2008, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by bosox1362

At 5'11'', a lean 210 does not look like brad pitt... haha. Pitt is probably 180 soaking wet.

Anyways, tell him to try a X-factor/Activate Xtreme stack... and if he has the money throw in some Size ON, SuperPump250, and some muscle milk (love this stuff for bulking up... haters go away).

That would be one pricey stack, but it is pretty much the best thing you can do out side of PHs.

cash isn't an issue. if all works out, he'll end up with close to half a mill anyway.

**Achilles_** · 02-20-2008, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by RADIRON

cash isn't an issue. if all works out, he'll end up with close to half a mill anyway.

What kind of job is this?

**RADIRON** · 02-20-2008, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Achilles_

What kind of job is this?

He's an actor. There's big money in asia for huge guys. He's also done some wrassling over there too. Not Mick Foley stuff but just playing big, American guy.

Hey, at your size, you'd be in-demand too. A guy (mostly whites but some blacks too) who's a lean 225+ in asia is like us seeing jay cutler over here. They just eat up American culture and gung-ho, kick-ass type stuff.

**Austin109** · 02-20-2008, 08:15 PM

WTF?! sign my ass up!

**Get Big_07** · 02-20-2008, 08:16 PM

let me find you in a few months when i get that big lol

**warbird00** · 02-20-2008, 08:18 PM

x factor/activate xtreme/lean xtreme/novadex xt ftw

**RADIRON** · 02-20-2008, 08:18 PM

So, with a half mill on the line, my bro needs to get back to where he was. Otherwise, they'll just find some other guy that looks like him.

Anyone have any experience with muscle memory on a large scale? I know that back in the day that Arnold gained about 30 lbs of muscle in a month when he was getting ready for the '80 Olympia after filming Conan I think. Now everyone can start saying that he was probably popping d-bols like candy. lol

**warbird00** · 02-20-2008, 08:19 PM

**** son, with 500k on the line get some real juice, wtf

**RADIRON** · 02-20-2008, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by warbird00

x factor/activate xtreme/lean xtreme/novadex xt ftw

all together as a stack? 8wks or so? what's the deal exactly?

**Get Big_07** · 02-20-2008, 08:20 PM

check out anabolic xtremes hyperdrol and mass fx stack im about to start on it myself ive heard alot of good things about it

**RADIRON** · 02-20-2008, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Get Big_07

check out anabolic xtremes hyperdrol and mass fx stack im about to start on it myself ive heard alot of good things about it

Any sides that you know of?

**warbird00** · 02-20-2008, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by RADIRON

all together as a stack? 8wks or so? what's the deal exactly?

eh, i would do nolvadex/act x/lean xtreme first month WITH XF and at the end of that month XF will start to kick in. SHould be good times

**u5711** · 02-20-2008, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by RADIRON

So, with a half mill on the line, my bro needs to get back to where he was. Otherwise, they'll just find some other guy that looks like him.

Anyone have any experience with muscle memory on a large scale? I know that back in the day that Arnold gained about 30 lbs of muscle in a month when he was getting ready for the '80 Olympia after filming Conan I think. Now everyone can start saying that he was probably popping d-bols like candy. lol

Arnold has some of the best genetics and he was using steroids... I would never use Arnold as a typical example.

**Get Big_07** · 02-20-2008, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by RADIRON

Any sides that you know of?

no they arent phs theres none that ive heard of

**Austin109** · 02-20-2008, 10:34 PM

seriously, if its a half a mil on the line. id use the roids. just be very very careful.

**RADIRON** · 02-21-2008, 09:46 AM

I'm just trying to get as many options as possible for him. Of course, this could help me too since he said that he'll be able to hire me as his trainer, at the studio's expense, and I'll get a free trip to asia land and live large for a while.

**WilsonFisk** · 02-21-2008, 09:56 AM

Seriously get juice if a half mil is on the line...hell if 5k was on the line I would get over my needle phobia so damn fast lol

Especially if he is going to Asia (assuming it is legal in some parts of Asia) then it shouldn't be too hard to obtain.

**FlyingIllini** · 02-21-2008, 10:00 AM

I agree, for that much money do a cycle of steriods.

**jcrue11** · 02-21-2008, 10:41 AM

Seriously with that much $ on the line and prior PH experience he should go that route. I'm not up on that stuff, but I'm sure there are plenty that could offer some good suggestions.

**RADIRON** · 02-21-2008, 11:21 AM

I think juice is not an option. He's had gall bladder problems in the past and his Dad developed prostate cancer early in life. I think that he's afraid to do hard stuff. He didn't have gall bladder probs back when he did hard PHs like 5yrs ago or so. He's open to mild PHs or similar but nothing that'll be taxing on his liver (since the gall bladder is part of the liver).

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