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    Help me select a new pistol

    I am going to be using it as a carry piece and was very interested in the Glock 33 (I really like the .357 sig round and the new piece will be chambered for it) but I have a Glock 26 and I'm terrified of accidentally getting the mags mixed up - that would be a catastrophe.

    My dilemna is I need something comparable in size and weight chambered for .357 that I won't confuse with my baby glock, needs to be similar quality (please no junk), relatively easy to upgrade (decent trigger is absolutely necessary - I don't mind doing a trigger job but I need to be able to do it myself, get parts, etc.) and accurate.

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    Well since I am a wheel gun man I will disqualify myself, but since you also posted in the Misc section in means you are gonna get some doozie answers..I am on my way there now to post one....he he he he
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    well you want something you can carry? so i wanted the same thing, i went with springfeild..... great company with great products..
    their xd line is great. i have the xd-40, sub compact, small but very powerful!
    they make a 9 like this also, but i know you want power.

    just what i did, good luck!
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    Cool

    I'd recommend the XD as well, I've heard lots of great things about them. I'd go with the .45ACP however, especially since you're going to be using this for carry that extra stopping power is definetely a plus. Can't argue with 13+1 in .45ACP
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    I have a ton of 9mm, 40sw and 45acp pistols guys - I appreciate the input and I know where you are coming from but I'm buying a new one for the specific purpose of owning a small peice in .357 sig.
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    The few I've been looking at for ccw.


    Para s12*45.


    http://www.paraord.com/product/product.html?id=21



    Para carry 12.Too bad I can't find any black ones.
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    Originally Posted by Geno
    I have a ton of 9mm, 40sw and 45acp pistols guys - I appreciate the input and I know where you are coming from but I'm buying a new one for the specific purpose of owning a small peice in .357 sig.
    Alright.How about the Sig P229R in a .357 SIG??It's another one I'm looking at for ccw as well.
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    Originally Posted by notorius1
    Alright.How about the Sig P229R in a .357 SIG??It's another one I'm looking at for ccw as well.
    As of right now it is the frontrunner - simply because I can't find a really small decent polymer gun - wish I could.

    I also hate decockers - I would rather have a stryker fired piece than one I have to slam the hammer down on.
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    Originally Posted by Geno
    As of right now it is the frontrunner - simply because I can't find a really small decent polymer gun - wish I could.

    I also hate decockers - I would rather have a stryker fired piece than one I have to slam the hammer down on.
    two possiblities would be:

    Steyr M357-A1 http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/index.php?id=617
    Springfield Armory 4 inch XD 357 sig (XD9103HCSP06)

    Honestly I don't know much about the Steyr, but the XD's seem to be getting a lot of good reviews lately.

    Of course I'm trying to picture you putting a clip of 357 into a 9mm pistol, and having problems. Really if you like the Glocks, stick with it, and just get 13rnd magazines(like a model 32) for the 357(unless you have that size on the 9mm), then it should never be an issue to spot the right magazine.
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    I haven't been able to ascertain whether or not the magazines will go into the different guns (model 26 and model 33) - going to visit a gun shop and play with the wares soon. If they will go in I have a problem, the fiance has a 26 also and we have glock 9x19 mags laying all over the place now (they all fit the 26, some just stick out the bottom more than others).

    I like the glocks a lot - once you fix the awful trigger (very easy to do) they are extremely good pistols.
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    Why all of the hate on decockers? Other than my 21, I'd rather have a knife than a Glock. I'm just not fond of the trigger safety. I've owned my P-220 since 1990 and have never had an errant discharge from decocking the weapon, I've never seen one either. Mine is getting close to a real tear down and inspection. Now if you want to talk about the Glock 18, now that's a hell of a lot of fun at 1700 rpm.
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    Originally Posted by GREENFEATHER
    Why all of the hate on decockers? Other than my 21, I'd rather have a knife than a Glock. I'm just not fond of the trigger safety. I've owned my P-220 since 1990 and have never had an errant discharge from decocking the weapon, I've never seen one either. Mine is getting close to a real tear down and inspection. Now if you want to talk about the Glock 18, now that's a hell of a lot of fun at 1700 rpm.
    I'm going to agree with GREENFEATHER (about decockers not Glocks), I have put several thousand rounds through my P97D and I carry it fairly often, and have never had a decocker related discharge.
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    Just use one of those metallic colored pens and mark the mags for your .357 Sig so you don't mix them up.
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    Originally Posted by Hartski
    Just use one of those metallic colored pens and mark the mags for your .357 Sig so you don't mix them up.

    This is what I've settled on. A new 33 is in the works along the required trigger parts to make it not suck.

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    Originally Posted by GREENFEATHER
    Why all of the hate on decockers? Other than my 21, I'd rather have a knife than a Glock. I'm just not fond of the trigger safety. I've owned my P-220 since 1990 and have never had an errant discharge from decocking the weapon, I've never seen one either. Mine is getting close to a real tear down and inspection. Now if you want to talk about the Glock 18, now that's a hell of a lot of fun at 1700 rpm.

    It hurts my soul to drop the hammer on a loaded chamber. I have a 10mm s&w that I've put a ****load of rounds through with no problems and I know of exactly no one who has ever had a problem with a decocker but I can't bring myself to get used to it - I flinch every time I do it.

    I couldn't stand my ammo bill if I regularly shot an 18 so I'll have to pass. I do have a class III xm15 (converted by a friend of mine) by Bushmaster but it hurts my wallet to shoot it much so it mostly just sits in the safe.
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    Originally Posted by Geno
    This is what I've settled on. A new 33 is in the works along the required trigger parts to make it not suck.

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    Hell, even the lighter 5.5 lb. Glock triggers suck balls compared to a nice adjustable trigger on a 1911.
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    Originally Posted by Geno
    I am going to be using it as a carry piece and was very interested in the Glock 33 (I really like the .357 sig round and the new piece will be chambered for it) but I have a Glock 26 and I'm terrified of accidentally getting the mags mixed up - that would be a catastrophe.

    My dilemna is I need something comparable in size and weight chambered for .357 that I won't confuse with my baby glock, needs to be similar quality (please no junk), relatively easy to upgrade (decent trigger is absolutely necessary - I don't mind doing a trigger job but I need to be able to do it myself, get parts, etc.) and accurate.

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    Originally Posted by Hartski
    Hell, even the lighter 5.5 lb. Glock triggers suck balls compared to a nice adjustable trigger on a 1911.
    You need to handle one that's done right - breaks very crisply at 2.7lbs after the correct amount of take up for a twostage (.5"). Use the 3.5lb competition trigger package from top glock or glockmeister, polish the living snot out of everything metal that touches each other and replace the stryker spring with a reduced power version. Takes a lot of time (2-3 hours) but it's not hard at all.
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    Originally Posted by Geno
    You need to handle one that's done right - breaks very crisply at 2.7lbs after the correct amount of take up for a twostage (.5"). Use the 3.5lb competition trigger package from top glock or glockmeister, polish the living snot out of everything metal that touches each other and replace the stryker spring with a reduced power version. Takes a lot of time (2-3 hours) but it's not hard at all.

    Yeah, but it'll never be as nice as a crisp 1.5 lb trigger on a single action.

    I had Timney customize the trigger in my A-Bolt to the point of stupidity. It was adjustable from .5-3 lb. On the lowest setting, if you thought hard enough it'd fire.
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    Originally Posted by Hartski
    Yeah, but it'll never be as nice as a crisp 1.5 lb trigger on a single action.

    I had Timney customize the trigger in my A-Bolt to the point of stupidity. It was adjustable from .5-3 lb. On the lowest setting, if you thought hard enough it'd fire.
    Yep - can't make it that clean.
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    But, the last time I shot a Glock, the 5.5 lb trigger was the best you could get. I'd like to try out a fully customized one sometime.
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    Originally Posted by Hartski
    But, the last time I shot a Glock, the 5.5 lb trigger was the best you could get. I'd like to try out a fully customized one sometime.

    Next time you come through AL shoot me a PM. I've got one 26 that's pretty slick, another that's got the parts in it but no polishing (it's light but still real bad creepy and crunchy) an dI'll have 33 that's slicked up by the end of the month.

    Also got a range in the yard - makes shooting easy.
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    Originally Posted by Geno

    Also got a range in the yard - makes shooting easy.
    I've got a quarry behind the house. If I get a new shottie this weekend, I'll be exploding some milk jugs filled with water.
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    Originally Posted by Hartski
    I've got a quarry behind the house. If I get a new shottie this weekend, I'll be exploding some milk jugs filled with water.

    I hear you - good luck at the gun show.
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    Originally Posted by Geno
    I hear you - good luck at the gun show.
    On second thought, I probably shouldn't spend that much money this weekend. I may have to settle for a new tactical flashlight and a sweet new knife or 'hawk.
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