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    Squats vs Deadlifts (is there a difference?)

    I was looking up the difference between squats and deadlifts, and from what I read they are both about the same, work the same muscles ect...

    is this right? If this is true do I still need to incorporated both in to my routine?

    Right now, for my legs, I do Lunges, Squats and jump rope for my calves 2 times a week. So many people deadlift so I was wondering if I should add them in, substitute squats for them or if I am fine doing what I am doing,
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    Originally Posted by andr0id View Post
    I was looking up the difference between squats and deadlifts, and from what I read they are both about the same, work the same muscles ect...

    is this right? If this is true do I still need to incorporated both in to my routine?

    Right now, for my legs, I do Lunges, Squats and jump rope for my calves 2 times a week. So many people deadlift so I was wondering if I should add them in, substitute squats for them or if I am fine doing what I am doing,
    They are not the same and place significantly different stresses on the muscles involved. Although they do work a lot of the same muscles. It's like comparing close grip bench press to a standard bench press. One is for tris, one is for chest, but as a whole they do use the same muscles.

    Squats focus on legs, deadlifts focus on back. Adding them both to any strength/size routine is advised imo.
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    It depends on your goals. If you're looking to put on as much size as possible I'd say incorporate both in your programme.
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    Originally Posted by Ya Boy Dave View Post
    It depends on your goals. If you're looking to put on as much size as possible I'd say incorporate both in your programme.
    i agree. also, some people squat and deadlift in the same week, others have found better results (to maximize recovery) by doing them on alternating weeks.
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    Originally Posted by andr0id View Post
    I was looking up the difference between squats and deadlifts, and from what I read they are both about the same, work the same muscles ect...

    is this right? If this is true do I still need to incorporated both in to my routine?

    Right now, for my legs, I do Lunges, Squats and jump rope for my calves 2 times a week. So many people deadlift so I was wondering if I should add them in, substitute squats for them or if I am fine doing what I am doing,
    They do work mostly the same muscles but the target muscle for each is different, as is the way in which each muscle is stressed.

    I would definately do both, and as others have said, base when you do them on how fast it takes you to recover.

    I personally either do them either on leg day after squats so that I don't have to wait for my legs to recover or I do them on their own day usually paired with some cardio.

    I will be virtually alone on this one because most people do them on back day.
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    squats are an excellent leg mass bulding exercise, deadlifts are an excellent strength exercise.
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    I do Romanian DLs, which work mostly my back, followed by squats, which work mostly my legs. I've done them in either order and I don't find that either tires me out too much to do the other effectively. But I only do 1-2 work sets of each.
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    I do both. Deadlifts strengthen my lower back so I can squat more.
    I believe you'll hit a wall with squats (the bar will feel heavy because your back is weak) unless you compliment with deadlifts.
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    I do them both on the same day...but I do a modified deadlift targetting my lower back without using much legs, aside from hamstrings, at all....
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    I and many others i'm sure are firm beleivers in the squat. I have found squatting to build more muscle mass, but i never go a leg workout without doing both. how much you do this all depends on what your goals are. If you are training to become better at sports then both are must...if you are trying to look good for the ladies or trying to improve your overall appearance both are not needed.
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    How many days a week do you deadlift?

    I was thinking about adding it in to my current routine so it would look something like this. It would be 3 days a week.

    Deadlift 2 x 8
    Squat 3x10-20
    Lunges 3x10 (each side)
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    my opinion is that deadlift is still one of the best ways to build up glutes and hammys. it also adds slabs of muscle onto your back and traps because of the weight and the abs because of the form. squat is the number one mass builder because it utilizes so many muscle fibers but its been proven *most recently in muscle and fitness magazines top 50 best weightlifting tips* that deadlift is the best overall strength builder and forces more gh release than any other lift
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    Lol... ATG squatting hits your quads, hammies, and glutes, Deads hit your Hammies, Quads a little, and Spinal Erectors. They're not substitutable for one another.
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    Squats are a pushing exercise that uses mostly legs.
    Deads are a pulling exercise that uses mostly back.

    They both use a lot of other muscles as well, but the primary movers are different.

    Do both, because they are the most important exercises for building overall mass. (IMO)
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    front squats can also be good if you are trying to hit more than just the legs. front squats are great for core strength.
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    Deadlifts are a great supplemental exercise to your squat. Doing deadlifts I can build up my lowerback and glutes..which are used to squat. If you have a strong lower back then you can squat more period! Do both man. IF you feel comforable both on the same day, however, I dont squat and deadlift on same day, ill eith deadlift and leg press OR squat and do other leg exercises.
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    Both are O.K. exercises, but let me ask you one question - are you doing Donkey Calf Raises? Because if you aren't, you might as well not be working out.
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    Originally Posted by Ecap View Post
    Both are O.K. exercises, but let me ask you one question - are you doing Donkey Calf Raises? Because if you aren't, you might as well not be working out.
    I do either regular calf raises or jump rope for my calves. Is that enough?
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    My deadlifts are on back day and therefore a different day to squats.

    You should only deadlift once a week... unless you're on steroids. Even though you might not be sore after a few days your muscles are still repairing.

    Also, if you squat and deadlift 3 times a week you're likely to burn out and need a week off every 4th or 5th week. I'd change my routine if I were you. Then again, if it's working stick to it.
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    Originally Posted by Ecap View Post
    Both are O.K. exercises, but let me ask you one question - are you doing Donkey Calf Raises? Because if you aren't, you might as well not be working out.
    Lol. I crown thee "the champion of donkey calf raises"! But seriously maybe he wants to compete in strength sports and donkey calf raises are about as usefull there as leg press.
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    I and many others i'm sure are firm beleivers in the squat. I have found squatting to build more muscle mass, but i never go a leg workout without doing both. how much you do this all depends on what your goals are. If you are training to become better at sports then both are must...if you are trying to look good for the ladies or trying to improve your overall appearance both are not needed.
    both are needed no matter what. deadlifts will give you some big thickness in your back and squats will give you legs like trees.
    squats are a MUST for legs and deadlifts are a MUST for back.
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    Originally Posted by jreyes2 View Post
    I and many others i'm sure are firm beleivers in the squat. I have found squatting to build more muscle mass, but i never go a leg workout without doing both. how much you do this all depends on what your goals are. If you are training to become better at sports then both are must...if you are trying to look good for the ladies or trying to improve your overall appearance both are not needed.
    a strong, thick back and big quads are not good for your overall appearance ?
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    yes there is, i dont have to do deadlifts to take a constipated dump.
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    Originally Posted by andr0id View Post
    I do either regular calf raises or jump rope for my calves. Is that enough?
    Haha man I was just kidding. I would say what you do is calf-sufficient as long as you haven't been doing it too long. In otherwords, make sure your routine isn't static for more then 2 months and switch it up.
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    Push-press - 2x5@ 140
    Bodyweight - 168-171lbs
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    I do them both in the same week but same day, I wouldnt advise that. I doubt you could do them both effectly doing them in the same day.

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