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03-18-2006, 10:42 AM
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canned tuna??
justa quick question everyone says canned tune is very healty high in protein so wen i eat this is it ok to mix it wit like miricale whip and make a tuna sandwhich or should i just eat it right out of the can??
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03-18-2006, 10:44 AM
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Use low fat Miracle Whip, it's not that bad at all.
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03-18-2006, 10:45 AM
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justa quick question everyone says canned tune is very healty high in protein so wen i eat this is it ok to mix it wit like miricale whip and make a tuna sandwhich or should i just eat it right out of the can??
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I used to eat it straight out of the can but that got old quick. I use light mayo and make a sandwich out of it. Tuna is so low in carbs and fat (basically nothing) that you can cheat a little with it. Just don't eat more then 3 cans a week. The mercury is no good.
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03-18-2006, 10:49 AM
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use mustard(if you like mustard) instead of cream IMO. mustard, tuna, tomatoes, pickles and some hot sauce makes the perfect sandwich for me..
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03-18-2006, 10:51 AM
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Just don't eat more then 3 cans a week. The mercury is no good.
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This depends entirely on the type of tuna & company you get it from. Jeeze.
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03-18-2006, 10:52 AM
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I used to eat it straight out of the can but that got old quick. I use light mayo and make a sandwich out of it. Tuna is so low in carbs and fat (basically nothing) that you can cheat a little with it. Just don't eat more then 3 cans a week. The mercury is no good.
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Actually many well known scientists are challenging that theory that tuna is very high in protien. They say now it isnt a health risk unless youre pregnant.
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03-18-2006, 10:53 AM
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I mean high in mercury not protien lol...
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03-18-2006, 10:59 AM
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I mean high in mercury not protien lol...
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edit ur first post... it'll confuse ppl no doubt.
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03-18-2006, 11:03 AM
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dude don't listen to the companys. They obviously will say that so you buy their tuna. All tuna is high in mercury there is no if's and's or but's about it.
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03-18-2006, 11:06 AM
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only 3 cans??? i prob bout 4-5 and i usually put like light mayo relish pepper and lettuce on wheat bread so i figured that was pretty good. what about makin 2 sandwhiches out of one can is 4 pieces of bread bad??? also how is meat from deli like ham and roast beef are they good sources of anything?
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03-18-2006, 11:10 AM
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dude don't listen to the companys. They obviously will say that so you buy their tuna. All tuna is high in mercury there is no if's and's or but's about it.
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i DON'T listen to companys, i view government regulated websites that record mercury levels for most canned tuna products.
Dude, if you don't like tuna because you feel its harmful, then that's fine. But don't start promoting the ban of tuna. It's one of the leanest sources of protein out there and if it'll help me with my goals, i'm eating it.
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03-18-2006, 11:19 AM
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i DON'T listen to companys, i view government regulated websites that record mercury levels for most canned tuna products.
Dude, if you don't like tuna because you feel its harmful, then that's fine. But don't start promoting the ban of tuna. It's one of the leanest sources of protein out there and if it'll help me with my goals, i'm eating it.
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lol!! I absolutley love tuna. But, I also love my body and I don't want to get mercury poisoning. It's not just a myth. I eat 3 cans a week but no more then that. If you want to eat 6 cans a week then so be it. I'm just not willing to take that risk and trying to help others on here. It's not like what I say goes. You can do what you want.
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03-18-2006, 11:24 AM
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i heard that the effect of too much of the mercury can mess with ur concentration, anyone else here this?
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03-18-2006, 11:32 AM
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Stop with the conspiracy theories. Youre not going to die from mercury poisoning from consuming tuna, or from aspartame overdose when drinking diet coke. Jeez, BBer overcompulsiveness.
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03-18-2006, 11:32 AM
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i heard that the effect of too much of the mercury can mess with ur concentration, anyone else here this?
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i'm currently readin an article about mercury poisoning.. hopefully i can help soon.
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03-18-2006, 11:50 AM
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haha conspiracy theories..nah man i jus heard that somewhere, im not overcompulsive about it, i was jus wondering if u guys heard that
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03-18-2006, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by davewins
I used to eat it straight out of the can but that got old quick. I use light mayo and make a sandwich out of it. Tuna is so low in carbs and fat (basically nothing) that you can cheat a little with it. Just don't eat more then 3 cans a week. The mercury is no good.
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I don't know, I've been known to kill 3 cans of tuna in one meal and I'm still here
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03-18-2006, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by boyscouT
i DON'T listen to companys, i view government regulated websites that record mercury levels for most canned tuna products.
Dude, if you don't like tuna because you feel its harmful, then that's fine. But don't start promoting the ban of tuna. It's one of the leanest sources of protein out there and if it'll help me with my goals, i'm eating it.
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And here is your proof.
Tuna Industry Confirms FDA Findings on Safety of Canned Tuna
Outlines Inaccuracies and Omissions in Media Reports
Washington, DC; January 27, 2006 -- The U. S. Tuna Foundation today called the continuing series of reports in the Chicago Tribune irresponsible journalism designed to alarm the public about a healthy and popular food when all government studies in the U.S. and abroad confirm that canned tuna is a safe and nutritious food product.
Responding to the sixth article in an ongoing series by the Chicago Tribune, the U.S. Tuna Foundation (USTF) challenged how the newspaper interpreted the findings of new testing data from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) about mercury levels in commercially sold fish. Although the testing data clearly show that the mercury levels in canned tuna products are well within the safe limits established by the FDA, the Tribune article attempts to extrapolate a different conclusion by selectively using only a small data sample.
According to FDA’s latest testing data for mercury levels in commercially sold fish and shellfish, the average amount of mercury in light canned tuna remains at 0.12 parts per million (ppm), which is eight times lower than the very conservative 1.00-ppm limit for commercial fish set by FDA. As a result, FDA has determined that canned light tuna is a low mercury fish that is safe for all Americans.
“It’s time to end the madness about mercury levels in canned tuna,” said Dave Burney, USTF’s Executive Director. “No one is at risk from the minute amounts of mercury in canned tuna. This is the conclusion of the FDA and the public health community.”
The U.S. Tuna Foundation also emphasized that no government study has ever found unsafe levels of mercury in anyone who ate canned tuna. This includes two large studies conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and a recent study by the National Institute for Minamata Disease in Japan, where people eat an average of 145.7 pounds of fish a year, compared to only 16.6 pounds for the average American. According to this study, 72 percent of all Japanese women have significantly higher concentrations of mercury in their systems than U.S. women but without any evidence of health effects for themselves or their children.
As additional evidence, USTF pointed to the findings of a major study by the Harvard Center for Risk Analysis, which confirms that the health benefits of consuming seafood far outweigh any risk due to trace amounts of mercury in fish. Published in the November 2005 issue of the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, the new study concludes that for women of childbearing age, cognitive benefits can be achieved with virtually no negative impact on the developing child if women of childbearing age eat two servings a week of fish that are low in mercury. The Harvard researchers further reveal that if Americans reduce their fish consumption out of confusion about mercury, there will be serious public health consequences, notably higher death rates from heart disease and stroke.
More information about canned tuna and its health benefits is available at the USTF Web site, www.tunafacts.com.
Established in 1976, the US Tuna Foundation (USTF) is the national organization representing the canned tuna processors and the fishermen who supply them and addresses issues ranging from fishing access arrangements to federal and state regulations and domestic marketing.
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03-18-2006, 04:07 PM
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Just don't eat more then 3 cans a week. The mercury is no good.
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Q. Is anyone at risk from consuming too much mercury from canned tuna?
A. Absolutely not. Nobody eating canned tuna in the U.S. has ever consumed the amount of mercury that comes close to what scientists call the “no observed adverse effect level” -- or the level linked to adverse health effects. This is also true in countries like Japan, where consumers eat significantly more tuna and other kinds of ocean fish.
Q. I have heard reports that more than 600,000 babies could be at risk if their mothers eat fish when they were pregnant. Is this true?
A. Absolutely not. Activists who want to change environmental policy have cited this statistic as a way of scaring the public and especially pregnant women. But this estimate is not based on any science. Instead, the activists have distorted a government study designed for another purpose to come up with estimates that make good headlines but have no basis in fact.
Here is the real fact: every scientific study has found is that no one in the U.S. has anywhere near the amount of mercury in their system known to cause a health problem. This is supported by two large studies conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which found all of the women and children studied were significantly below any known adverse effect level (confirming no one is at risk).
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Morbid why don't you do yourself a favor and grow up. If you disagree with me then that's fine. You hate me yet you don't know me. Just another tough guy online that doesn't have the balls to go up to someone and say what they need to say to their face. You're just another one of those guys. This is the internet dude. The internet. It shocks me when I see how immature some people are. Opinions are just like a$$holes, everybody's got one. Because my opinion is different then yours doesn't mean you have to "hate" me. You obviously are a very young individual if you "hate" someone over the internet over a differing opinion.
Judging by your sig I would have to put you in the 14-16 year old range.
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From the magazine "Health Smart Today" Daphne Zuniga's personal battle with mercury poisoning.
HS: What exactly is Mercury poisoning and what are the dangers of it??
DZ: First of all, I found out that one out of six people have toxic levels of mercury in their bodies in this country. They focus on women by saying one out of six women of childbearing age are toxic with mercury. They say that because mercury severely affects unborn children, the fetus. It is the neutrotoxin....basically a heavy metal that comes from coal power plants and the pollution in these plants, and it's a byproduct of that. It comes from other things too. If you can believe it, there are nine chlorine plants in the country and those nine have pretty much the same amound of mercury as 1,300 coal power plants. It goes out into the air as a heavy metal. It doesn't disintegrate; it falls down and ends up in our water bodies, like in the ocean, lakes and rivers. Fish eat it. When it gets into the water the algae in the water turns it into another kind of mercury, which is called methol mercury, which becomes even more toxic. The fish eat it and it stays in the fish and then we end up eating the fish. The fish that are the most toxic, because of their size and their age (they live the longest) are swordfish and albacore tuna. Those are the two fish that are on everybody's warning list because they have a lot of mercury. I didn't eat red meat or chicken, so I was eating fish for the last 20 years as my main source of protein. I was eating fish - from canned tuna to the deli, whole foods right in the case - three to four times a week. Ironically, people who are bodybuilders or who are in my industry and have to stay thin, eat a lot of protein and low carbs, like a salad with tuna or sushi for example. This stuff is loaded with mercury. When I found out that the numbers were so high, I got myself tested from my doctor who gave me a heavy metal test. Unfortunateley, it isn't a common test. It's becoming more so because people are learning that so many more people are toxic. Those tests for blood, they don't test for heavy metals regularly. I found out I was double the safe level of mercury in my body. So basically, that's what it is. You get it from the food chain; you get it from fish. You also get it from fillings.
The article goes on but I don't feel like typing out the rest. This is an actress (melrose place and beautiful people) that suffered with mercury poisoning over many years of eating tuna and I assume other fish. I guess a lot of you are too young to realize the way the world works. Money makes the world go round and company's and websites will lie to keep the product on the line. They want as many customers as they can and if there were websites that insisted on mercury poisoning "rumors" then these tuna companies would lose a LOT of money. So instead of hating me for having my rightful opinion on the matter do a little more research and don't believe everything you read. This is from somebody who actually had mercury poisoning. It's obviously a slow process, but if you do eat too much tuna for a long time you will get mercury poisoning.
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The article goes on but I don't feel like typing out the rest. This is an actress (melrose place and beautiful people) that suffered with mercury poisoning over many years of eating tuna and I assume other fish. I guess a lot of you are too young to realize the way the world works. Money makes the world go round and company's and websites will lie to keep the product on the line. They want as many customers as they can and if there were websites that insisted on mercury poisoning "rumors" then these tuna companies would lose a LOT of money. So instead of hating me for having my rightful opinion on the matter do a little more research and don't believe everything you read. This is from somebody who actually had mercury poisoning. It's obviously a slow process, but if you do eat too much tuna for a long time you will get mercury poisoning.
I posted an article from the FDA and the Safety of canned tuna. Everybody is intitled to an opinion wether they think its rightful or not. You just told the person to do more reaserch but in the same sentence told them not to beleive everything they read, what gives? Don't get me wrong, IMO the Tuna/Mercurey is no different then the Eggs/Colesterol or the milk/PWO meal also proven unfounded.
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also how is meat from deli like ham and roast beef are they good sources of anything?
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should probably stay away from most deli meats man, they have quite a bit of added sodium and preservatives + fillers + sugars. BEEF and PORK are fine and have good amino profiles just get the stuff raw and cook some up yourself.
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should probably stay away from most deli meats man, they have quite a bit of added sodium and preservatives + fillers + sugars. BEEF and PORK are fine and have good amino profiles just get the stuff raw and cook some up yourself.
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Processed meats are not too good, might as well go to subway. I will sometimes cook up a roast and eat of that, lots of garlic and onions.
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i guess i cant be too healthy then i eat a can of tuna a day sometimes 2 a day..
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The article goes on but I don't feel like typing out the rest. This is an actress (melrose place and beautiful people) that suffered with mercury poisoning over many years of eating tuna and I assume other fish. I guess a lot of you are too young to realize the way the world works. Money makes the world go round and company's and websites will lie to keep the product on the line. They want as many customers as they can and if there were websites that insisted on mercury poisoning "rumors" then these tuna companies would lose a LOT of money. So instead of hating me for having my rightful opinion on the matter do a little more research and don't believe everything you read. This is from somebody who actually had mercury poisoning. It's obviously a slow process, but if you do eat too much tuna for a long time you will get mercury poisoning.
I posted an article from the FDA and the Safety of canned tuna. Everybody is intitled to an opinion wether they think its rightful or not. You just told the person to do more reaserch but in the same sentence told them not to beleive everything they read, what gives? Don't get me wrong, IMO the Tuna/Mercurey is no different then the Eggs/Colesterol or the milk/PWO meal also proven unfounded.
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I'm just saying I believe somebody who experienced it firsthand then some company or some website (that is usually in relation to the company for $$ reasons). I am more of a person that needs facts for proof. This actress was clearly eating tuna for her main source of protein for 20 years and she ended up developing mercury poisoning. It's not something that happens overnight but it can happen. Companies are out for one thing and thats money. They can care less about the mercury. They are not going to kill their sales by telling the truth. That's my opinion. Everybody can have their own opinion on it. I have no problem with that. When somebody says he hates me because I believe this then he's clearly immature. I'm not talking about cutting tuna out of your diet at all. 3 cans of tuna a week is plenty. There are many other sources of protein that you can get by on. If you decide to eat more then 3 or 4 cans a week then that's completley up to you.
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Did she grow up downstream of a chlorine plant? I'm just pointing out that it may not have been the tuna.
She also says she found out 1 in 6 has toxic levels. Anyone have a real study that confirms that?
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Did she grow up downstream of a chlorine plant? I'm just pointing out that it may not have been the tuna.
She also says she found out 1 in 6 has toxic levels. Anyone have a real study that confirms that?
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The fact that she ate tuna as her main source of protein for over 20 years would not put any questions in my mind. Not too many people on here can honestly say they ate tuna 3-4 cans a week for over 20 years so really nobody can dissprove this. I'm not saying that eating tuna is bad and everybody shouldn't eat it. I'm just saying that it should be watched closely and at the very least talked about with your doctor. I wouldn't recommend eating more then 3 cans a week but that's just me. There really is no right or wrong answer. It's just my suggestion.
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I don't know, I've been known to kill 3 cans of tuna in one meal and I'm still here
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Sorry, but that is one of the stupidest f**king things i've heard in a long time...mercury poisoning isn't like cancer or the flu, it's not going to just pop up and kill you....it's the equivalent of say, eating huge amounts of saturated fats and cholesterol like bacon and ribs everyday...it's going to increase your risk of developing diseases of senescence (getting old...)...you will have a greater CHANCE of developing many diseases as well as a higher CHANCE of those diseases being much worse than they would normally. Notice i use CHANCE because it's not a garantee. Some people smoke for 50 years and live until they are 90, but does that mean smoking is good for you? Hell no, it's an atypical case and basing all your arguements on atypical cases has no merit, and psychologists even have a term for this error: Representative bias....
I think the US needs some serious education reforms...then maybe there wouldn't be so many ignorant people trying to spread their ignorance like some highly infectious disease...
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lol!! I absolutley love tuna. But, I also love my body and I don't want to get mercury poisoning. It's not just a myth. I eat 3 cans a week but no more then that. If you want to eat 6 cans a week then so be it. I'm just not willing to take that risk and trying to help others on here. It's not like what I say goes. You can do what you want.
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You dont know what your talking about. Last year when I was cutting for a big Boxing tournament, I leterally ate nothing but tuna for 3 months. As many as 10 cans a day, and when I cheated, it was with a Tuna sub from subway. It took me 3 months of this to develop Mercury Poisoning, and the traces were so light that from the time I contracted any symptoms, to the time I was back to eating tuna was less than 72 hours.
I still eat tuna on a regular daily basis usually between 2 - 3 cans a day.
If you are still super paranoid about this, sub canned Salmon. Little more expensive, but same nutritional goodness, and taste alot better (less fishy), oh and of course about a third of mercury contents of tuna.
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