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02-16-2008, 11:51 AM
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Interesting.....
Epibolan contains:
[2, 3-epithio-17a-methyl-etioallocholan-17b-ol]
what do you all think of this?
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02-16-2008, 11:55 AM
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and this one..
The active ingredient in Maxodrol is the compound:
1,4-androstadiene-4-chloro-17a-methyl-3?,17?-diol
a.k.a 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol
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02-16-2008, 12:21 PM
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who has good feedback on these two finds?
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02-16-2008, 12:33 PM
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DOMESKI, where you at bro? Let me see what you think about these two compounds?
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02-16-2008, 12:36 PM
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what are you asking?? what they are?..
1st one is epi based...same compound as epistane/havoc/methyl-e etc
2nd one is Halodrol clone...
never heard of the actual company though
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02-16-2008, 12:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john123131
what are you asking?? what they are?..
1st one is epi based...same compound as epistane/havoc/methyl-e etc
2nd one is Halodrol clone...
never heard of the actual company though
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I just want your opinions on them......
I seen the ad in the back of flex magazine....
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02-16-2008, 12:42 PM
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im not a huge fan of ph's, ill let someone else give their feedback on how they worked for them...
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02-16-2008, 01:05 PM
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Domeski.....
what do you think of these bro....?
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02-16-2008, 01:13 PM
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This one is their hardcore product
Equi-Gain contains:
1,4-androstadiene-3,17-dione
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02-16-2008, 02:15 PM
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just spent 30 minutes writing about these compounds and it got erased. thats pretty fun huh?
Crappies companies that are overcharging for their compounds. quality could be an issue as well.
The 1st is havoc or methylated Epitiostanol. I like this steroid. Good ups, not too many downs. =) go with Havoc brand but there are plenty of good clones.
The 2nd is a ph to Oral Turinabol. The ph is known as halodrol but only clones are available these days. good for strength gains without putting on much size. not many side effects either. Oral Turinabol was used by Olympic Athletes in the 60s and 70s. German scientists prefered the 4-chloro substitution for many of their steroids as it significantly reduced the ability of it to aromatize. German Men and women used these and won gold. super eh?
the last is a ph to Equipose, aka Boldenone Undecylate. Used in race horses. Hence the name Equigain. But the company that produces that uses very shady marketing techniques.
I would go with Bold200 made by iforce. Equipose is an excellent steroid in my opinion. Many comparisons are drawn to Nandrolone (aka Deca Durabolan). However, its more androgenic than Nandrolone so it will illicit a harder physique as well as providing more strength gains. It can aromatize but at only a small rate and in almost a favorable sense. Easily managed as well. Nandrolone has LESS sides overall, but the sides are a pain in the ass. Aside from the standard "Deca-d!ck", prolactin can easily become an issue and drugs such as cabergoline, bromocriptine, selegiline are not as easily accessible as your standard AI's and SERMS.
Equipose will improve improve endurance and overall athletic performance. Also will stimulate appetitie which is a plus for a bulking BB.
BOLD200 is a direct precursor to Equipose. Supposedly the conversion rate is relatively high. I've heard of 15-20%. Many members have seen excellent results with Bold, and the fact that its not methylated is a plus. The only downside i've seen in some cases is lethargy. How this is possible, I have no clue because Boldenone would give you the exact opposite effects.
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Originally Posted by SameolG
Epibolan contains:
[2, 3-epithio-17a-methyl-etioallocholan-17b-ol]
what do you all think of this?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SameolG
The active ingredient in Maxodrol is the compound:
1,4-androstadiene-4-chloro-17a-methyl-3?,17?-diol
a.k.a 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SameolG
Equi-Gain contains:
1,4-androstadiene-3,17-dione
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02-16-2008, 02:16 PM
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PA tell me what you think of these.....DOMESKI, waiting for your feedback too bro....
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02-16-2008, 03:08 PM
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DOMESKI where you at bro?
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02-16-2008, 03:14 PM
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right here man... i posted. look back a few threads. theres yo answer
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02-16-2008, 03:20 PM
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cool thanks, I will stick with my havoc cycyle and throw bold in with it, but I had to stop my cycle because I hurt my elbow and the doc won't let me hit the weights for 3 more weeks, so I will have to start over next month, but I will get my bold on order and another bottle of havoc.....but I have a source for real gear....so I may go that route....
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02-16-2008, 03:22 PM
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DOMESKI check your PM
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04-11-2008, 09:04 PM
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Pharmapro IS a WASTE!!!!!!!!!!
Dude do not waste your hard earned cash on anything pharmapro has to offer. Back in the day they might have had good stuff, but NO MORE! I did a full cycle they offer it was maxodrol, equigain, and stanz. Huge waste of time and money! I only gained 2lbs and that was from in increase of protein. Big WASTE!!!! Now if you could get some noradrol original that stuff was great!!!!!!!!
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12-08-2008, 01:26 PM
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i personally have not used epi-bolan but plenty of my friends have and it has worked great for them. vasularity and size. the one they took was from a different company though so i have no idea how it works from that company
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03-20-2009, 10:43 AM
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Currently starting EPI-bolan cycle, will let you guys know how it turns out.
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03-20-2009, 10:49 AM
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Quote:
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Currently starting EPI-bolan cycle, will let you guys know how it turns out.
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03-21-2009, 10:54 PM
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I purchase both the hardcore stack and pct stack from pharmapro. For starters there was awfull comunication from the company and It took forever to get my products since they were on back order. Which i was never told until i called them. I think i waited about 2 weeks. A scary experience considering i shelled out about $300 for everything and thought id have my stacks in 2-3 days.
Now i did start the hardcore stack and the first part im taking is the maxadrol. Tuesday coming up will be 2 weeks. So i started on 3/10/09. My strength and muscle definately increased already. My weight was 163 lbs and im now 167.8 lbs. But i think i might have put on a little bit of fat due to not enough of a lean diet and not enough cardio. Tues i think im supposed to add the next compound called stanozabol to the stack. So ill post a Before the stack pic and then a pic 4 weeks into the cycle.
The stack is 8 weeks then ill begin my PCT stack which is another 4 weeks.
My profile pic is the most recent pic taken right before the stack.
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03-25-2009, 02:09 PM
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Well i did my weekly weigh in yesterday. I weighed in @ 170 lbs. So thats 7 lbs total i put on so far since my start weight @ 163 lbs. It doesnt look like i put on much bodyfat so far but i need to find my fat clicker/pincher to confirm that. Strength seems to be up pretty good. A couple weeks ago i strugled to barely get up 2of the 60lb dumbells during overhead press. Last night i did it with no problem and blew out 2 sets of 8. I think i should of pushed 70 lbs instead but well try again next week and see. I have crazy stretch marks on my biceps going down to my forearms and on my chest. So far not bad. Thursday is legs, this Sat. is chest/triceps, Sun. is back/biceps. Im curious to see how i do.
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06-12-2009, 10:43 PM
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So much for posting pics and keeping up to date.Time didnt allow it. In a nutshell i was impressed by weeks 5 and 6, i looked and felt stronger. One of the guys i work with told me how jacked i look. And my neighbor thought i was messing with a cyle cause he said i got big pretty quick. But when i started on the PCT stack i started losing my gains. My arms were about 16" and went down to almost 15.5" s....I noticed i looked a lot smaller in a lot of my before and after pics. I started curling 70 lbs on the e-z bar and then bumped up to 110lbs in no time. But then i slowly went back down in strenght and now curl about 80 lbs. Id like to try the stack again but try a different PCT. But the hardcore stack is so expensive i might just try something else like spawn.
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07-25-2009, 11:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlterEdge78
So much for posting pics and keeping up to date.Time didnt allow it. In a nutshell i was impressed by weeks 5 and 6, i looked and felt stronger. One of the guys i work with told me how jacked i look. And my neighbor thought i was messing with a cyle cause he said i got big pretty quick. But when i started on the PCT stack i started losing my gains. My arms were about 16" and went down to almost 15.5" s....I noticed i looked a lot smaller in a lot of my before and after pics. I started curling 70 lbs on the e-z bar and then bumped up to 110lbs in no time. But then i slowly went back down in strenght and now curl about 80 lbs. Id like to try the stack again but try a different PCT. But the hardcore stack is so expensive i might just try something else like spawn.
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Just a suggestion: Try Cyclo Bolan from Infinite Labs. I aslo took maxadrol and epi bolan. Maxadrol did not give me the results i was looking for and I was happy with epibolan (benched 400 for the first time when i was on it) but was not happy that my gains went away so quickly (w/in a month). With Cyclo Bolan 90% of my gains stayed. my weight only dropped 7 lbs and i had gained 15-20 in 8 weeks. My strength dropped a little in the 2nd week off of it but started regaining it in the 3rd. Everyone that i talked to thought i was taking some serious stuff. It's worth a shot if you really wanna try and gain something with out hitting the illegals.
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08-07-2009, 11:16 PM
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Thanks for the advice. Ill check it out. Yea the Epibolan did the most for me as well. But like you said, id say with in a month i lost most of my gains and strength.
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Just a suggestion: Try Cyclo Bolan from Infinite Labs. I aslo took maxadrol and epi bolan. Maxadrol did not give me the results i was looking for and I was happy with epibolan (benched 400 for the first time when i was on it) but was not happy that my gains went away so quickly (w/in a month). With Cyclo Bolan 90% of my gains stayed. my weight only dropped 7 lbs and i had gained 15-20 in 8 weeks. My strength dropped a little in the 2nd week off of it but started regaining it in the 3rd. Everyone that i talked to thought i was taking some serious stuff. It's worth a shot if you really wanna try and gain something with out hitting the illegals.
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08-07-2009, 11:34 PM
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I forgot to ask, do you think Testro Grow 2 HP would make for a decent PCT?
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08-12-2009, 08:18 AM
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I forgot to ask, do you think Testro Grow 2 HP would make for a decent PCT?
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Yeah that looks like a decent pct. you could also look at Powerful by USP Labs or Tribulus by All American EFX. They both seem pretty decent as far as the rate of testosterone goes. After my first cycle of Cyclo Bolan i did not take a PCT. The directions said it was recommended but not required. So I decided against it and just kept my protein intake high and used Animal Pack. I did pretty good with out it. This time however i think I'm going to give Powerfull a shot. I'm taking Jacked (a PWO product) by USP right now and am happy with it. So hopefully I'll be happy with Powerful as well.
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