Board reps, good or bad.......place your vote

[CHUCK DIESEL]

Ok, not trying to start a heated argument, but <b>IF YOU ARE NOT A BOARD REP. please vote</b> (DON’T VOTE IF YOU ARE A BOARD REP OR HAVE ANY AFFILIATION AT ALL WITH A SUPPLEMENT COMPANY) and voice your opinion on how this board has changed since the rapid increase in members becoming board reps.

I’m a 50/50 person, half rep half not because tech. I’m not a rep because I don’t get free supplements every month to answer questions and "promote" GET DIESEL, but I remember this board about early 2005 was different. Actually from about 2002 to 2005 fall it was a board where a few members were very knowledgeable and some of them if you asked a question would actually research it and post findings for you.

Now most of those guys are affiliated with supplement companies.........and lets just say their posting patterns has changed. This also took away a nice amount of supplement logger because no one wants to read a log from a rep.

<b>ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU ARE A REP, DONT VOTE OR POST HERE. </b> This is for the regular people.

Also non-rep board members, give suggestions on how you think reps can exist without any rep BS, or if you like the board better with reps.

[str8flexed]

personally i think the whole place is saturated with board reps... I think it's really screwing the board personally

[JRRBadBoy4Life]

Reps for starting this thread. To be quite honest I am getting sick and tired of the immaturity of board reps on this forum. The blame game, the deceitfullness, the MR. Know it all( I cant be wrong), the arguing, the bitching and moaning...need I go on. It just gets old and it turns me off to the companies these reps represent. I know everybody on here acts immature at times but yeah, it is getting worse as more reps have been hired. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody in particular, this is a general feeling I have gotten as I have followed various threads. With that being said, I voted yes, its getting out of hand, but there should be rules, specifically for board reps.

And if these rules arent followed, they should be banned accordingly.

[cxm]

I like this board because of the reps and will continue to support them. What I don't like is the BS with one product against another. As long the supplement companies make decent products, there will be customers for all of them. For example if I like "X" product from company "Y", some other individual might like "Z" product from company "W", even though they are basically the same product just minor differences.

[deserusan]

With the good comes the bad. I think it was out of hand for awhile when I first joined but is a lot better now. Overall, they are valuable. The bad ones are more getting called out more and more which is quite entertaining.

[beer20]

Originally Posted by JRRBadBoy4Life

Reps for starting this thread. To be quite honest I am getting sick and tired of the immaturity of board reps on this forum. The blame game, the deceitfullness, the MR. Know it all( I cant be wrong), the arguing, the bitching and moaning...need I go on. It just gets old and it turns me off to the companies these reps represent. I know everybody on here acts immature at times but yeah, it is getting worse as more reps have been hired. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody in particular, this is a general feeling I have gotten as I have followed various threads. With that being said, I voted yes, but there should be rules, specifically for board reps.

And if these rules arent followed, they should be banned accordingly.

i voted yes ,but i pretty much agree with what JRR said above.
i visit a few other boards so maybe thats why it doesnt bother me as much.

[in10city]

It's nice to have them when:
1. They are knowledgeable
and
2. They back statements and opinions up with something more than strawman statements and arguments that they simply blow down.

What I don't like is the "I would not take them together personally, You could stack..." (INSERT PRODUCT HERE) without reasoning.

[martel04]

i think reps are good because the majority of them help people with questions but to many reps pimp there products all the time but i guess thats what your suppose to do to help the company that you represent. i think reps are good but latley it has gotten a little out of hand.

[zhorner]

i chose "yes, but its getting out of hand"

i just hate it when someone has an open mind about all supplements and then all of the sudden, their company's products become the only supps on the planet to them

some are better than others, but i still think it is a little rediculous

[stEam_B()at]

as far as the poll goes i think the reps are going to vote no matter what,but i do beleave the reps are just company posers and most are immature & are only here to pimp their stuff!

[SkinnyFat]

I dont want to start any argument here, but I'll just state my opinion on how I seen things here regarding board reps.

I think some reps can really learn alot from the SNS crew. Eventhough they are a handful of reps, they do not spam threads with their products, bump threads about ingrediants in their products, or start arguments with other supplement companies. They are very professional and I think thats the way all reps should behave. The Ergo reps also behave in such professional matter, as well as some other company reps.

Do I like the idea of reps ? Yes.

I offer advice when I can, but having a rep (or two) to give accurate advice about their products is needed here. Many have helped me through personal messages, which im grateful for, as well as bringing a ton of knowledge to these boards.

What I dont like though, is that this place has become a war zone. Before reps were introduced, almost all the members were friendly. Now its more of company x vs. company y and in some cases it has gotten a little personal. This shows lack of professionalism towards the company they represent, and Im sure Im not the only one who has noticed this.

[Dimitar]

Originally Posted by CHUCK DIESEL

Also non-rep board members, give suggestions on how you think reps can exist without any rep BS, or...

I've seen people giving negative/ neutral feedback on a product and the reps start asking about their training and diet, trying to find fault with them in the first place, 'proving' that the product wouldn't have worked because of that. First of all, anyone's diet and training could be improved, but when a supplement works, it works, though suboptimaly. Secondly [and lastly], judging from their logs, some of those reps are the last people I will take training/ diet advice from or even let them scrutinize mine.

[deserusan]

Originally Posted by Dimitar

[and lastly], judging from their logs, some of those reps are the last people I will take training/ diet advice from or even let them scrutinize mine.

LOL! That is so true.

[jkeithc82]

I won't vote, but all I can say is I try my best day in and day out.

[McDugan]

Really - reading this board now adays is like reading the news paper. It's mostly b.s. Just not much news anymore.

[NoNameNecessary]

Personally, I believe this is one of the better boards on the internet. However, I feel the board as a whole has lost some objectivity due to the increased presence of a few certain companies. I have no problem whatsoever with board representatives, as long as they are helpful in answer questions pertaining with their company, and with information NOT pertaining to their respective company.

I myself, voted yes, because I believe as a majority most of the board representatives are helpful. Many of them are the more active and more knowledgable members of this forum, and without them, this forum may not even be where it is today. In fact, I believe they are less of the problem, and people who follow them blindly are the problem. I feel all in all, too many consumers, members of this board and not, put their eggs in one basket before doing any research for THEMSELVES.

[CanadaBBOY]

It's good because you have a large group of people trying to answer questions and learn as much as they can so that they can 'prove' themselves to their company and their peers and do a good job. Most reps do a good job of staying fairly neutral and not doing too much shameless pimping so for the most part it's ok.

It's bad because most of the better known regular members are now reps, leaving very few of us knowledgeable vets around who aren't attached to a company. Also once a member becomes a rep they need to change their attitudes a little and hold back on some of their honest opinions (to stay professional, neutral, and avoid legal troubles).


I think overall the board is better due to their presence, but it isn't without it's faults. It's really easy for people to now get info on many products that they want to try, and instead of being told to use the search function many people are now being given straight answers by the reps (I’m not suggesting that the search function shouldn't be used first, but sometimes people have specific questions that they cannot find in pre-existing threads, at least without hours of sifting through dog ****).

[JRRBadBoy4Life]

Originally Posted by CHUCK DIESEL

<b>ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU ARE A REP, DONT VOTE OR POST HERE. </b> This is for the regular people.
.

I love how reps listen so well

[Ephedra]

Originally Posted by McDugan

Really - reading this board now adays is like reading the news paper. It's mostly b.s. Just not much news anymore.

^^^

[zhorner]

Originally Posted by Dimitar

Secondly [and lastly], judging from their logs, some of those reps are the last people I will take training/ diet advice from or even let them scrutinize mine.

the best post so far...nice

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[mr00bill]

IMO its ****ing up the board,

I wont say they're the most knowledgeable, but they're the most active members on the board, and they shouldn't be focusing on just one product line. Not to mention some of the **** they've been up to lately is just ridiculous.

The cons outweigh the pros IMO

[Lurker 501]

Originally Posted by McDugan

Really - reading this board now adays is like reading the news paper. It's mostly b.s. Just not much news anymore.

[CanadaBBOY]

My statements were quite general, and not all reps are very knowledgeable and some of their 'nominations' have been based on 'broism' and their high activity on the boards. But there are a few out there that really know their ****.

[Ephedra]

80 members viewing and I counted 13 reps. Nuff said.

[CrazyTall]

I think it sucks
Its bad when I have absolutely nothing to do, so I figure Ill log on and read and make a few posts, and after 30 min I totally give up and am fully frustrated. This board used to be something I used to look forward to. I used to not be able to wait till I got home from work to check my subscribed threads, PM's, and Reps. Now I can hardly force myself to open the forums. Its such a complete waste of internet bandwidth IMO. Anyone who lifts seriously and has any sense of what they are doing does NOT need this message board. All the conflicting "advice" (and I say that term loosely) will do more harm than good.
The only real purpose this board had was to sit back and chill with your friends, but now you cant do that, cause god forbid 1 person *cough Lebronjames cough* doesnt like it, then the Mods come and delete the threads and ban anyone who has the audacity to question their internet authority.


I know Ive gone way off topic, but thats the way I feel everytime I spend more than 5 minutes on this poor excuse for a board.
Peace!

[JRRBadBoy4Life]

Originally Posted by mr00bill

and they shouldn't be focusing on just one product line.

Actually many of the reps continue to keep logs for products of other companies. Not that that is necessarily a good thing. I don't think a rep would be a rep very long if he was honest and said in his log a specific supplement works better than the supplement he represents. Thats likely to lose some sales, though it may be honest.

[zhorner]

Originally Posted by JRRBadBoy4Life

Actually many of the reps continue to keep logs for products of other companies. Not that that is necessarily a good thing. I don't think a rep would be a rep very long if he was honest and said in his log a specific supplement works better than the supplement he represents. Thats likely to lose some sales, though it may be honest.

^^^which is what many people dont like about the whole "rep" thing. it all boils down to honesty

[CanadaBBOY]

Originally Posted by CrazyTall

I think it sucks
Its bad when I have absolutely nothing to do, so I figure Ill log on and read and make a few posts, and after 30 min I totally give up and am fully frustrated. This board used to be something I used to look forward to. I used to not be able to wait till I got home from work to check my subscribed threads, PM's, and Reps. Now I can hardly force myself to open the forums. Its such a complete waste of internet bandwidth IMO. Anyone who lifts seriously and has any sense of what they are doing does NOT need this message board. All the conflicting "advice" (and I say that term loosely) will do more harm than good.
The only real purpose this board had was to sit back and chill with your friends, but now you cant do that, cause god forbid 1 person *cough Lebronjames cough* doesnt like it, then the Mods come and delete the threads and ban anyone who has the audacity to question their internet authority.


I know Ive gone way off topic, but thats the way I feel everytime I spend more than 5 minutes on this poor excuse for a board.
Peace!

Thats why I focus on my diet/training/friends/girlfriend, and most importantly school, and use these forums to waste time here and there and to post logs, etc... Unfortunatly every new product gets rave reviews, but rarely does it ever perform well once you actually go out and buy a bottle. Has anyone else noticed that?

I'm not saying that is true for EVERY product and review, but it does seem to happen a lot. Anyone remember Product X from LG, or basically anything from LG?

[zahriya]

Originally Posted by Ephedra

80 members viewing and I counted 13 reps. Nuff said.

i dont think the issue is whether or not they cant view the thread. im sure theyd like to hear the oppinions of others so maybe they can better themselves in the future. chuck asked them not to post or vote but if someone where attack a certain rep i think the no post rule doesnt apply anymore to that person. it would be like making a thread saying Ephedra cant post here then bashing you. surely ud like to defend yourself.

going back to the real question here i do think it has gotten out of hand. for example when someone asks how much cee to take before and after, u have bout 30000 replies to check out their product when in reality the person has the product and just wants the question answered. maybe there should be a separate section specifically stating questions for company repts

[G.W. Hayduke]

I would've voted X-Factor as best supp but didn't see it on the poll... personally, I would choose it over any other stack--even Cell-Tech--but that's just my personal opinion.