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    Aspire 36 - Palo Alto Labs - Ouch!

    Well, I posted a topic on Anabolic Minds questioning the Aspire 36 product.

    Here is a link to the thread...

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/palo-...6-chinese.html

    It seems a shame that I question a product and get attacked. People attack me and then try to "research me". To me it make no sense that they would research me for attacking a supplement more than they would research the supplement they put into their bodies.

    I am not trying to attack PAL. But, as you can see they have decided to attack me -- even PUBLICLY posting my email address which was given to them in confidence.

    I am hoping PAL will contact me in an attempt to take the high road on this situation.
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    Originally Posted by taylhis View Post
    Well, I posted a topic on Anabolic Minds questioning the Aspire 36 product.

    Here is a link to the thread...

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/palo-...6-chinese.html

    It seems a shame that I question a product and get attacked. People attack me and then try to "research me". To me it make no sense that they would research me for attacking a supplement more than they would research the supplement they put into their bodies.

    I am not trying to attack PAL. But, as you can see they have decided to attack me -- even PUBLICLY posting my email address which was given to them in confidence.

    I am hoping PAL will contact me in an attempt to take the high road on this situation.
    hmmmm, you got banned at AM for being an idiot...thought you'd give bb.com a chance too??..shall we post up that info about you here too bro?
    And when your email has our name in it, think there is a hidden agenda dude?..you've posted this on our forum, on am, bb.com, and a few others...your a troll with intensions of dragging our name through the mud....kinda funny...but very sad

    also, you attacked us, we exposed you for being a troll....seems fair to me. Anyone here can read those thread, and realize you have a hidden agenda....its not hard to tell man. Love how your acting all inocent like we went after you though.....good touch..=)
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    Originally Posted by john123131 View Post
    hmmmm, you got banned at AM for being an idiot...thought you'd give bb.com a chance too??..shall we post up that info about you here too bro?
    And when your email has our name in it, think there is a hidden agenda dude?..you've posted this on our forum, on am, bb.com, and a few others...your a troll with intensions of dragging our name through the mud....kinda funny...but very sad
    I do not have troll intentions. Who can I call at PAL tomorrow during business hours?
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    if you wanted to be mature about this....you could have been. All the calling out and trying to make us look bad wasnt needed. Pm me if you want to be civil and we can discuss what ever you like man. I tried to be polite with your first trash talking thread, and in your second.

    Like I said, your more then welcome to PM me bro.

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    so no pm...right on..didnt think you cared to be civil.....best of luck in your trolling bud.
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    Originally Posted by john123131 View Post
    so no pm...right on..didnt think you cared to be civil.....best of luck in your trolling bud.
    I cannot live on the computer. I will PM later -- ok. Let me just say that all the name calling and personal attacks came from YOU GUYS.

    I will PM you shortly. (in next couple of hours)
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    excellent, another troll
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    excellent, another troll
    Just because someone is concerned does not make them a troll. Try having an open discussion and not ripping on someone. Seriously.

    As reps for a company you should never reduce yourself to name calling and bickering.

    Again, I will PM shortly I only have time for quickie posts right now.
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    Originally Posted by taylhis View Post
    Just because someone is concerned does not make them a troll. Try having an open discussion and not ripping on someone. Seriously.

    As reps for a company you should never reduce yourself to name calling and bickering.

    Again, I will PM shortly I only have time for quickie posts right now.
    based on the title of your thread on AM, your not a "concerned customer" your trying to start something....trying to convince people aspire is something its not, its kind of amusing.

    lol...man we have gone over this, using the name you used as an email, the depth of which you attack my company without ever posting about any other topic on any board, the fact that you've gone on multiple boards to make your outlandsih claims...the fact that you first make a thread saying aspire is crap and gave it a 1 out of 10 then say its cialis....your a joke, people see right through you. We have tried to do things the proper way, tried to handle it like adults, but your not that type of person. You enjoy making call out threads and empty threats with zero evidence. So like I said, post your results....put up, or shut up.

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    Originally Posted by taylhis View Post
    I do not have troll intentions. Who can I call at PAL tomorrow during business hours?
    Please dont waste your time.

    I have done my very best to entertain your questions, I posted educated responses to the reson why you had ZERO effects from the first dose of Asprie36... rather than take advice... you bash the company. Rather than ask questions... you make accusations.

    Ive acted professionally for the past week while you posted on every forum that google could find for you... but youve clearly shown me that your only intentions are sour.
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    Originally Posted by john123131 View Post
    based on the title of your thread on AM, your not a "concerned customer" your trying to start something....trying to convince people aspire is something its not, its kind of amusing.

    lol...man we have gone over this, using the name you used as an email, the depth of which you attack my company without ever posting about any other topic on any board, the fact that you've gone on multiple boards to make your outlandsih claims...the fact that you first make a thread saying aspire is crap and gave it a 1 out of 10 then say its cialis....your a joke, people see right through you. We have tried to do things the proper way, tried to handle it like adults, but your not that type of person. You enjoy making call out threads and empty threats with zero evidence. So like I said, post your results....put up, or shut up.

    good night

    Anyone can read the thread and see where the personal attacks and name calling started and it wasn't by me. The name I used as email is irrelevant. What is your point?

    What THREATS did I make? People see right through me -- ok, then what is my adgenda?

    Do I really have ZERO evidence that your website says "No Side Effects" when there are some?

    We will talk about this in private and I am sure we will work everything out. I am assuming your hostility is not because I am a concerned consumer but because you think I have an alterior motive. Once you're sure that is not true things will be much more civil.

    Take care. I am sure you are a good person who is just frustrated. Let's avoid the personal attacks like "you're a joke". It is not professional.
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    Here we go again with the aspire36 is cialis bull****.
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    Originally Posted by timmyclax22 View Post
    Here we go again with the aspire36 is cialis bull****.
    Again?
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    Smile Lab Results!

    PAL has posted some LAB RESULTS on Anabolic Minds -- THANKS PAL!!

    Look here to see them: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/palo-...chinese-3.html

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    troll or no troll, i got 2 misses with pal products, in my book=no more buying from them(aspire36,reset-ad) i guess im a non-responder ...-_-
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    Originally Posted by fallenursus View Post
    troll or no troll, i got 2 misses with pal products, in my book=no more buying from them(aspire36,reset-ad) i guess im a non-responder ...-_-
    sorry that you havent had any luck with our products, but it happens bro. But feedback is always appreciated, obviously were always looking to get better.
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    Originally Posted by dancebot View Post
    I'm Glad PAL finally posted their testing results. There was so much unneeded controversy for a great company.
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    Originally Posted by dancebot View Post
    I'm Glad PAL finally posted their testing results. There was so much unneeded controversy for a great company.
    Right. Instead of name calling and unethical behavior they could have just released the results. Which look great.
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    thanks for the support bro.
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    Originally Posted by taylhis View Post
    Right. Instead of name calling and unethical behavior they could have just released the results. Which look great.
    name calling, dude you tried to drag our name through the mud. I called a spade a spade....you were trolling, not questioning, went out of your way to try to bring my company down, and we threw it back in your face....but hey, its cialis right....thanks for posting, have a great day...
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    Right. Instead of name calling and unethical behavior they could have just released the results. Which look great.
    no one was professional enough to ask.

    ie..."hey palo..aspire36 is strong.. do you have a lab showing its clean?"
    Thats all it takes.

    everyone wants to condemn first..
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    Originally Posted by taylhis View Post
    Right. Instead of name calling and unethical behavior they could have just released the results. Which look great.
    The problem is that you have had some sort of weird vandetta against PAL. This is the third anti PAL thread you'e done, the first one being how Aspire was garbage. Whether it was intentional or not, you're a troll.
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    Originally Posted by Palo Alto Labs View Post
    no one was professional enough to ask.

    ie..."hey palo..aspire36 is strong.. do you have a lab showing its clean?"
    Thats all it takes.

    everyone wants to condemn first..
    Of course if there is a problem asking the source will not give you answers. Do some research and you will see that there have been plenty of supplement companies that can show clean lab reports but have later been proven to have tainted products. If you want to know if someone is doing something illegal, chances are asking them might not get you an honest response.
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    It's too bad companies need to deal with crap like this. This is really kind of a sad thread
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    Originally Posted by taylhis View Post
    Of course if there is a problem asking the source will not give you answers. Do some research and you will see that there have been plenty of supplement companies that can show clean lab reports but have later been proven to have tainted products. If you want to know if someone is doing something illegal, chances are asking them might not get you an honest response.
    lol dude give it up. you cried cause there was no lab report, you have one....now you cry cause you say it means nothing. get a fuking life
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