Testosterone boosting stack, very hypotetical for now

[bonbon]

ActivaTe 4/d
ReboundXT 2/d

stacked with:

DIM 400mg/d
Pregnenolone 50mg/d
Cissus 1g/d
Cnidium 25% osthole 200mg/d
Dodder 8:1 1g/d
Long Jack 100:1 200mg/d
Tribulus 15% protod. 1.5g/d
Ipriflavone 4g/d
Avena sativa 4g/d


Might be too expensive to use, but in the name of science, whats your opinion? Could you make better one?

[johnfaceman]

Well... I dont know much about science, but this seems like a bit overkill. I would think that testosterone production is not infinite and therefore some of these supplements would be pointless. Can science back that up?... anyone?

[Skigazzi]

\I would think that testosterone production is not infinite and therefore some of these supplements would be pointless.

Pretty good point.

In the name of science, Id use 600mg of 6-OXO for 8 weeks, no other supplement has American University studies, and I cant think of any others that actually used human males in their studies, typically its rats.

Results of the 6-OXO study:
<img src="http://www.ergopharm.net/images/diagrams/6oxo_study.gif">

6-OXO Long Term Study - Sneak Peak

A study was recently completed at Baylor University that looked at the physiological responses to 8 week cycles of 6-OXO. In this study, there were two groups – one that consumed 300mg 6-OXO a day and one that consumed 600mg a day. Each group took the 6-OXO for 8 weeks during which blood samples were taken at intervals throughout the cycle and at 3 weeks after the completion of the cycle. The blood was later analyzed for hormone levels and for toxicity indicators.

The full results cannot be released until the study is peer reviewed, however we can give you a sneak peak at the most important aspect of the study – the influence of 6-OXO upon free testosterone levels.

As you can see from the graph, the 600mg a day group experienced a very substantial increase in free testosterone that was sustained throughout the 8 week cycle. The levels peaked around the 3 week mark, where they measured roughly twice that of baseline levels.

Of particular interest is the fact that after the 3 week washout period, the levels of testosterone for both the 300mg and 600mg groups were pretty much exactly the same as they were at the start of the cycle. This indicates that there are no negative rebound effects upon testosterone levels after cessation of 6-OXO cycles.

It is also important to note that a complete blood panel showed no significant changes in toxicity parameters throughout the course of the cycles.

You can stack all the herbs in the world but you wont beat those numbers.

[solarize]

I have only done blood work on the following natural supp - Diesel Test, but the results were pretty good (below).

This is PRE Diesel Test New Forumla.
Testosterone 23 nmol/L or 663ng/dl (5.0-25.0)
Free Testosterone 70 pmol/L (60.0-130.0)

This is AFTER Diesel Test new Formula. (28 days of use)
Testosterone 28 nmol/L or 806.4ng/dl (5.25.0 is ref range)
Free Testosterone 125 pmol/L (60.0-130.0 is ref range)

This is approximately a 30% increase in Total Testosterone, and about 90% increase in free test.

Would be great to do a comparison study with Activate or NHA stack/DT/6-oxo against each other