which do you prefer? Which one is better for back development??
sorry if these questions are too general, but i cant think of how i can be more specific =(.
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03-04-2006, 06:37 PM #1
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03-04-2006, 07:17 PM #2
underhand allows you to place your biceps in a more powerful position
this means your arms are less likely to give out prior to your back
I'm preferential, in most cases, to either BTN pullups with a grip about 6" outside shoulder width, or hammer-grip chinups, with hands about shoulder-ish width, palms facing each other.
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03-04-2006, 07:19 PM #3
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03-04-2006, 07:29 PM #4
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03-04-2006, 07:30 PM #5
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03-04-2006, 07:33 PM #6
My preference: Overhand
Originally Posted by specr89
It comes down to personal preference. Rotate your forearms from palms up to palms down while feeling your lats and you'll see it only changes what's going on with the arms, not the back. Underhand helps keep your elbows tucked in for greater lat emphasis which would help beginners, but once you know what you're doing you shouldn't have any problems tucking them in with an overhand grip using a shoulder-width grip.
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03-04-2006, 08:38 PM #7
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03-04-2006, 08:39 PM #8
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03-04-2006, 08:50 PM #9
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03-05-2006, 01:24 AM #10Originally Posted by specr89
Not unless you only want to work your arms. Truly garbage form. So if your form starts going down that road, take some weight off.
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03-05-2006, 01:25 AM #11
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03-05-2006, 01:26 AM #12
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03-05-2006, 01:40 AM #13Originally Posted by AHTTG
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03-05-2006, 01:45 AM #14
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03-05-2006, 01:56 AM #15
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Originally Posted by specr89
Rows with an underhand grip place the biceps into a more powerful pulling position but seem to put the lats in a better line of pull. Rows with an overhand grip seem to bring the upper back/rear delts increasingly into play.Last edited by DiamondDelts; 03-05-2006 at 01:58 AM.
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03-05-2006, 09:03 AM #16
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Originally Posted by DiamondDelts
Underhand helps (me) keep the elbows in and the pull will be from mainly the lats. With overhand the elbows travel out a little from the body, and I belive the focuse on the muscles is higher up (^^^"upper back/rear delts"^^^)
So, to answer this....:
Originally Posted by specr89Last edited by MiketheSwede; 03-05-2006 at 09:05 AM.
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03-05-2006, 09:18 AM #17
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03-05-2006, 09:34 AM #18
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03-05-2006, 09:54 AM #19
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03-05-2006, 10:02 AM #20
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03-05-2006, 10:10 AM #21
hmm.....****.
being fairly new and not rowing/deadlifting too much weight though, and using proper form on both, i should be safe for the most part right?
i deadlift with alternative grip. but only deadlift in the 200s. and i only row around 135. using proper from on both, i dont have much to worry about right?
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03-05-2006, 10:11 AM #22Originally Posted by nbk
It depends on a few things... what part of the muscle tears, how bad the tear is etc..
I ruptured my bicep right about where it connects to the tendon, and it took 7 months before I could start to train upper body again.. It didn't hurt bad, but it always hurt.. and it would hurt pretty bad when I tried to lift even 15lbs.. I felt like a burning sensation...
The doctor told me if I got the surgery it would actualy heal faster, but I would have lost range of motion in my arm.. So I waited it out, and I am glad I did... no scar, no loss of range of motion.. I can still tell there was an injury there, but it doesn't prevent me from lifting, and there is no pain...
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03-05-2006, 10:13 AM #23
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Originally Posted by nbk
Also, you can see clearly which bicep Dorian tore if you compare the two.
http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Yates13.jpg
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03-05-2006, 10:17 AM #24
Oh yeah as far as the rowing... I do both, and I think doing one and not the other is selling yourself short.. underhand works the lower lats more, and overhand hits rear delts, and upper back as well...
when you do them underhand keep your arms as close to your sides as possible, this makes a huge difference, and really seems to put the resistance onto the back...
You should be trying not to use your biceps at all.. try to really focus on using your back to lift the weight... it is afterall a back exercise...
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03-05-2006, 10:17 AM #25
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03-05-2006, 10:20 AM #26
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03-05-2006, 10:30 AM #27
I enjoy doing both overhand and underhand bent over rows. I believe that overhand rows develops the upper part of the lats/backs...? and underhand rows hit the lower part of the lats and the mid back...? Im not sure if im right, if anyone knows, feel free to correct me.
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03-05-2006, 10:53 AM #28
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03-05-2006, 10:54 AM #29
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03-05-2006, 11:10 AM #30
sweet, thanks for all the info guys.
I guess ill mix it up every now and then. Right now, im doing underhand because i find that i have more control of the weight (its resting on palms, not the fingers). But as my grip improves/i get used to the movement, ill start to switch it up.
On a totally different note, hows this for a back workout??
rackpulls
bentover rows
weighted chins
weighted hammer chins
???
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