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    Originally Posted by jag09 View Post
    we were having this discussion when we were lifting the other day. How many black kickers do you see in the NFL?
    I have seen one black kicker in college but I think he was mixed.
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    I think Owen Schmitt and Jacob Hester will both do some damage in the league even if their going to be fullbacks
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    Originally Posted by Chris In D.C. View Post
    John "The Diesel" Riggins

    I can't believe he hasn't been mentioned yet, how many SB rings does he have???
    The point is we have named like what 10 white RB's? Every starting, backup, and even third string RB in the NFL right now is not caucasian.. Except for MAYBE 1-2... and it doesnt bother me, I'm just saying I dont know why it is that way. It just seems like white people are naturally slower, less agile, and hold more bodyfat due to genetics.
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    I don't think we'll ever see an elite NFL corner
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    Originally Posted by jag09 View Post
    we were having this discussion when we were lifting the other day. How many black kickers do you see in the NFL?
    Or black QB's.
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    Originally Posted by acornsing View Post
    yea hes not white.
    wasnt he like half white?
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    Originally Posted by xKKx7 View Post
    wasnt he like half white?
    No dude lol


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    Originally Posted by xKKx7 View Post
    wasnt he like half white?
    no he was just ligh complectied
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    i think black people typically have a higher concentration of fast twitch muscle fibers than whites and/or higher natural testosterone. blacks dominate the quick and explosive positions in america's top games. they also have better frames for the sport

    to ignore the obvious genetic difference is just plain stupid. ~13% of America is black, ~70% of theNFL is black, ~85% of the NBA is black and ~98% of USA's Olympic sprinters, long jumpers and high jumpers are black.

    I mean, HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    you are obviously going to have superstar white athletes out there and truly unathletic black people out there, but numbers aren't lying
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    Originally Posted by xKKx7 View Post
    wasnt he like half white?
    wtf??
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    Originally Posted by TNLB38 View Post
    no he was just ligh complectied
    o my bad
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    Originally Posted by vanvan22 View Post
    Or black QB's.
    there is a easy reason for this
    kickers, punters and qb's require less athletic ability than rbs and dbs

    i guarantee there are more white kids playing football in HS than black kids. skill is the main factor for these positions. since athletic ability is not the determining factor for these positions, the trend is closer to the white player-black player-ratio set back in HS
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    Originally Posted by RnR View Post
    there is a easy reason for this
    kickers, punters and qb's require less athletic ability than rbs and dbs

    i guarantee there are more white kids playing football in HS than black kids. skill is the main factor for these positions. since athletic ability is not the determining factor for these positions, the trend is closer to the white player-black player-ratio set back in HS

    great thread.
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    Originally Posted by vanvan22 View Post
    Or black QB's.
    Your joking right?

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    You need to look at the socio-economic factors involved in this.

    How much of America's young black population is out playing soccer every weekend? How many of them have their parents driving them everywhere to play these games? The answer is probably <1%. That is your answer to the black kicker question. Not that all kickers are soccer players, but its a damn good start to a NFL kicking career. Most of those kids are out playing basketball on their block for hours on end per day.
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    Originally Posted by Davidv602 View Post
    Your joking right?

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    lol..i was being sarcastic...
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    Originally Posted by vanvan22 View Post
    lol..i was being sarcastic...
    Ok i was going to say, how much football do you watch

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    Originally Posted by Davidv602 View Post
    Ok i was going to say, how much football do you watch

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    you're saying there are a lot of black qbs in the nfl....

    besides kicker, punter and OL ( not sure, it seems their are slightly more whites here) Qb is the only position with more whites than blacks (probably by a 4 or 5 to 1 ratio)
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    Blacks are genetically better at the RB position. **** those shallow scientific studies, or being politically correct or w/e blacks are born better running backs then whites. Now im not saying that all blacks are genetically better then whites, or that the average black has better genetics then the average white. It might be one of those two, it might be that blacks have a better chance of being genetically gifted but their is a reason that most starting running backs are black, and the reason is genetics.
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    I remember reading this story about this white dude who was an RB and they wouldn't let him start in college (wasn't a D-1 I don't think) because even though he was more skilled and athletic than everyone else his (white) coach told him "I can't have a white runningback!".

    I think it's a combination of genetics, social expectations, and willpower to succeed that typically thrusts the black athlete over the white one when it comes to speed positions.

    However, Kevin Curtis for the Eagles is my role model. (white boy wr, runs a 4.2, fastest player on team)

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    no he was just ligh complectied
    Strong fail at grammar.
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    Originally Posted by RnR View Post
    you're saying there are a lot of black qbs in the nfl....

    besides kicker, punter and OL ( not sure, it seems their are slightly more whites here) Qb is the only position with more whites than blacks (probably by a 4 or 5 to 1 ratio)
    But that most likly willl change in a few more years.
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    Originally Posted by acornsing View Post
    You would think by now, there would be a few elite white Rb, Wr, Cb, & etc.
    Wes Welker(WR) led the NFL in receptions and he's white
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    You guys know any asian players? I'm hoping one day I'll have the chance. I guess I can see how genetics can play into asians. Asians aren't really big boned, not that much to work with, but those are genetically big boned, probably still have some possibility, but seriously, asians don't really excel in sports too well.
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    Originally Posted by ewong11692 View Post
    You guys know any asian players? I'm hoping one day I'll have the chance. I guess I can see how genetics can play into asians. Asians aren't really big boned, not that much to work with, but those are genetically big boned, probably still have some possibility, but seriously, asians don't really excel in sports too well.
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    Originally Posted by ewong11692 View Post
    You guys know any asian players? I'm hoping one day I'll have the chance. I guess I can see how genetics can play into asians. Asians aren't really big boned, not that much to work with, but those are genetically big boned, probably still have some possibility, but seriously, asians don't really excel in sports too well.
    Timmy Chang is an Asian quarterback in the CFL? Does that count? :P
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    Originally Posted by Riotact View Post
    Timmy Chang is an Asian quarterback in the CFL? Does that count? :P
    Haha, Kinda

    I was hoping there would be a full asian guy.
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    He is full Asian...just not in the NFL :P
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    I think you have to look at this in a broader point of view. The NFL and NBA are the primary media sports in america, probably followed by baseball. Imagine if hockey were the primary sport america watched, or you lived in minnesota, can any of you name 5 black hockey players off the top of your head? I didn't think so. (If you haven't played hockey before, then you really have no idea the type of athlete you need to be to play).

    Take Europe for example, Rugby and Soccer are probably the mainstream sports in those countries (and many of those players are making the transition to play here). Same scenario, name 5 black rugby players off the top of your head. Exactly, you don't know any. So, we automatically assume white athletes are better rugby players? Nah.

    There are most examples, but i don't feel like typing anymore.

    Black, white, asian, whatever...it's desire and determination that gets you where you want to be, not skin color.
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