Who is the greatest human of all time?

[jehst]

jesus aint god son. hes gods son.

i guess it depends on your belief system. in Catholic school, we were taught that Jesus is 100% divine..that he was God in the flesh. that he was in 100% human form, but God incarnate.

[BNR]

Bob Marley

[freak08]

i would have to say all those who currently serve or have served in the armed forces. They sacrifice everything for us

Thank you

[Masdr]

This man

[Johnnie Rico]

LOL at everyone saying Jesus. I could say it was someone dealing with Paganism or ancient Egyptian mythology because that gave rise to Christianity.

BTW Jesus=God (Holy Trinity)

So the greatest? Who knows. Most influential in modern times possibly Karl Marx.

[HulkRage2006]

Jesus, dumbass.

[ThatDarnKaylaKi]

lead singer of 311, nick hexum

[StrongInChrist]

In terms of simple popularity Jesus might come somewhat close - but even there, I doubt it. In terms of sheer brilliance, Aristotle pwns Jesus in every way imaginable. T

Popularity??? You gotta be kidding me. I can walk outside right now and find 50 people that have NO IDEA who Aristotle is.

How many people outside right now dont know who Jesus is??? /point.

[mr_oo3]

Leonardo da Vinci.

Painter, sculptor, anatomist, engineer, musician.

A master in every field of academia and the arts. The Renaissance Man.

Da Vinci excelled in everything that sets us apart from animals. He was the ultimate civilized man.

Honorable mentions to Julius Ceasar, Marcus Aurelius, Sir Issac Newton.

[Riceboi]

Michael Jackson
Michael Jordan

[joeflex73]

al bundy

Reps!

[Duckenheimer]

Bruce Campbell.

[nuttybl]

no offense to anybody, but if jesus was the son of god how can he a human??

[Duckenheimer]

no offense to anybody, but if jesus was the son of god how can he a human??

Because he was a bipedal primate from the mammalian species Homo Sapiens.

[k_rock]

thing about jesus is his teachings were nothing new. love your neighbour and all that?

not too different from what moses recieved from god when he read out the 10 commandments.

jesus' "tales" are most likely blown out of proporation. historians in his day barely acknowledged him. if he was really performing all those miracles why wouldn't they write it down? instead you gotta believe the book his 12 homeboys wrote.

my choice: johann gutenberg - the only reason why people believe the bible. mass spread with the invention of the printing press.

[ThatDarnDavidKi11111]

lead singer of 311, nick hexum

i agree.

[weissistschoen]

Newton by FAR.

Invented Calculus

Invented gravity

Binomial theorem

Countless other contributions to physics and mathematics.

Newton pwns all.

INVENTED GRAVITY???? I have to meet this guy.

[naturally_big]

Nelson Mandela (no bias)

[swordfish7]

thing about jesus is his teachings were nothing new. love your neighbour and all that?

not too different from what moses recieved from god when he read out the 10 commandments.

Strong ignorance.

jesus' "tales" are most likely blown out of proporation. historians in his day barely acknowledged him. if he was really performing all those miracles why wouldn't they write it down? instead you gotta believe the book his 12 homeboys wrote.

Again, strong ignorance. Do you even know anything about what historians say??? The life and existence of Jesus Christ is probably the most documented event in ancient history. Our entire time scale revolves around his life and death(ie B.C. & A.D.)

my choice: johann gutenberg - the only reason why people believe the bible. mass spread with the invention of the printing press.

Not "believe," READ. Before the printing press and the official english translation authorized by King James, the Millions of people fell under the broad mantel of "Christians" without ever reading the Bible in their native tongue, it was in latin, greek, and hebrew.

[Mew2]

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<this guy



but in all serious, gotta go with jesus. i'm not a christian but if you can conviced people your a god and keep that up for 2 century, you must be doing something right

[CoorsLight]

al bundy

damn str8

[Duckenheimer]

Strong ignorance.



Again, strong ignorance. Do you even know anything about what historians say??? The life and existence of Jesus Christ is probably the most documented event in ancient history. Our entire time scale revolves around his life and death(ie B.C. & A.D.)



Not "believe," READ. Before the printing press and the official english translation authorized by King James, the Millions of people fell under the broad mantel of "Christians" without ever reading the Bible in their native tongue, it was in latin, greek, and hebrew.

Yup.

If nobody knew about Jesus till Gutenberg, why was A.D and B.C. already FIRMLY IN WIDESPREAD USE in Europe for centuries before him?

[k_rock]

swordfish..find me documentation of jesus during his life. a lot of it is skipped in the NT. why would they only let us know how jesus was born and what he did as an adult? what about teenage jesus?

i don't deny his existance, but i doubt a lot of the hersay christianity claims about the guy.

and really, the 10 commandments was all about treating your neighbour well. how did jesus revolutionize the way western thought is? people were loving their neighbours for years as dictated by another divine source.

[jvinci]

Jesus
Aristotle
Leonardo de Vinci
and...

i think Hitler deserves some recognition for almost single handedly destroying an entire race off of this planet. (remember criteria, was 'great' not 'good'). brilliant speaker and strategist. if he didn't get so big headed and try going into russia, this world would be a much different place.

[Duckenheimer]

swordfish..find me documentation of jesus during his life. a lot of it is skipped in the NT. why would they only let us know how jesus was born and what he did as an adult? what about teenage jesus?

i don't deny his existance, but i doubt a lot of the hersay christianity claims about the guy.

and really, the 10 commandments was all about treating your neighbour well. how did jesus revolutionize the way western thought is? people were loving their neighbours for years as dictated by another divine source.

The 10 commandments were one thing.

The difference between moral teachings in the Old and New Testament were pretty vast, despite obvious similarities.

Old Testament:
"An eye for an eye".

New Testament:
"Turn the other cheek."

And the gospels were NOT all written by people who lived alongside Jesus.

[StrongInChrist]

swordfish..find me documentation of jesus during his life. a lot of it is skipped in the NT. why would they only let us know how jesus was born and what he did as an adult? what about teenage jesus?

i don't deny his existance, but i doubt a lot of the hersay christianity claims about the guy.

and really, the 10 commandments was all about treating your neighbour well. how did jesus revolutionize the way western thought is? people were loving their neighbours for years as dictated by another divine source.

Actually there were 613 commandments inforced by the ancient Jews and many of them were terribly imoral. Jesus pretty much turned the traditional jewish way of thinking upside down. It was "eye for an eye" until Jesus introduced "turn the other cheek". Just one small example.

Oh and incase you didnt know this Socrates didnt have any writings of his own. He was vaguely mentioned by a few ancient writers. I guess we should forget about him too right?
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Socrates

Plato only boasted 7 manuscripts dating to more than 1000 years after his death. And no one discredits Plato now do we?

http://www.allaboutthejourney.org/bible-manuscripts.htm


"Interestingly, this manuscript evidence far surpasses the manuscript reliability of other ancient writings that we trust as authentic every day. Look at these comparisons: Julius Caesar's The Gallic Wars (10 manuscripts remain, with the earliest one dating to 1,000 years after the original autograph); Pliny the Younger's Natural History (7 manuscripts; 750 years elapsed); Thucydides' History (8 manuscripts; 1,300 years elapsed); Herodotus' History (8 manuscripts; 1,350 years elapsed); Plato (7 manuscripts; 1,300 years); and Tacitus' Annals (20 manuscripts; 1,000 years)."


Compared to the NT:

The manuscript evidence for the "New Testament" is also dramatic, with nearly 25,000 ancient manuscripts discovered and archived so far, at least 5,600 of which are copies and fragments in the original Greek. 4 Some manuscript texts date to the early second and third centuries, with the time between the original autographs and our earliest existing fragment being a remarkably short 40-60 years

[kay_kakes]

Jesus
Aristotle
Leonardo de Vinci
and...

i think Hitler deserves some recognition for almost single handedly destroying an entire race off of this planet. (remember criteria, was 'great' not 'good'). brilliant speaker and strategist. if he didn't get so big headed and try going into russia, this world would be a much different place.

No reference to last semster's hw assignment?

[GFleXXX2]

oh hai guise

i am

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[XAU]

A good book to read "The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History" by Michael H. Hart

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_100
http://www.dlmark.net/hundred.htm
http://www.amazon.com/100-Ranking-In.../dp/0806513500

He listed the top 100 most "influential" and gave his explanation for each person. Great book!

? Muhammad ? Isaac Newton ? Jesus Christ ? Buddha ? Confucius ? St. Paul ? Ts'ai Lun ? Johann Gutenberg ? Christopher Columbus ? Albert Einstein ? Louis Pasteur ? Galileo Galilei ? Aristotle ? Euclid ? Moses ? Charles Darwin ? Shih Huang Ti ? Augustus Caesar ? Nicolaus Copernicus ? Antoine Laurent Lavoisier ? Constantine the Great ? James Watt ? Michael Faraday ? James Clerk Maxwell ? Martin Luther ? George Washington ? Karl Marx ? Orville and Wilbur Wright ? Genghis Kahn ? Adam Smith ? Edward de Vere ? John Dalton ? Alexander the Great ? Napoleon Bonaparte ? Thomas Edison ? Antony van Leeuwenhoek ? William T.G. Morton ? Guglielmo Marconi ? Adolf Hitler ? Plato ? Oliver Cromwell ? Alexander Graham Bell ? Alexander Fleming ? John Locke ? Ludwig van Beethoven ? Werner Heisenberg ? Louis Daguerre ? Simon Bolivar ? Rene Descartes ? Michelangelo ? Pope Urban II ? 'Umar ibn al-Khattab ? Asoka ? St. Augustine ? William Harvey ? Ernest Rutherford ? John Calvin ? Gregor Mendel ? Max Planck ? Joseph Lister ? Nikolaus August Otto ? Francisco Pizarro ? Hernando Cortes ? Thomas Jefferson ? Queen Isabella I ? Joseph Stalin ? Julius Caesar ? William the Conqueror ? Sigmund Freud ? Edward Jenner ? Wilhelm Conrad Roentgen ? Johann Sebastian Bach ? Lao Tzu ? Voltaire ? Johannes Kepler ? Enrico Fermi ? Leonhard Euler ? Jean-Jacques Rousseau ? Nicoli Machiavelli ? Thomas Malthus ? John F. Kennedy ? Gregory Pincus ? Mani ? Lenin ? Sui Wen Ti ? Vasco da Gama ? Cyrus the Great ? Peter the Great ? Mao Zedong ? Francis Bacon ? Henry Ford ? Mencius ? Zoroaster ? Queen Elizabeth I ? Mikhail Gorbachev ? Menes ? Charlemagne ? Homer ? Justinian I ? Mahavira ?

Runner-ups:

? St. Thomas Aquinas ? Archimedes ? Charles Babbage ? Cheops ? Marie Curie ? Benjamin Franklin ? Mohandas Gandhi ? Abraham Lincoln ? Ferdinand Magellan ? Leonardo da Vinci ?

[4nicate]