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    Why are people so stupid

    You tell somebody they have a strained muscle that will lead to a severe tear in a few weeks if they keep pushing it instead of resting, and the usual response is 'well, what if i cut my bench weight from 260 to 250.....will that be enough to let it heal?'

    I swear, most people are morons.
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    case in point ----------------> http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=717824

    look at the third post, although i can't tell whether he's joking or not
    I have been Michael's number two guy for about five years, and we make a great team. We're like one of those classic famous teams. He's like Mozart and I'm like Mozart's friend. No, I'm like Butch Cassidy and Michael is like Mozart. You try and hurt Mozart, you're gonna get a bullet in your head, courtesy of Butch Cassidy.
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    Originally Posted by Big Ad
    case in point ----------------> http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=717824

    look at the third post, although i can't tell whether he's joking or not
    No kidding, im not sure either
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    Originally Posted by fightingalex
    battle through it bro, use aspirins, tylenols, painkillers etc. you can push through injuries
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    Originally Posted by deserusan
    Wow! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXTTTTTTTTTTRRRRRRRRREEEEEE EEEEEMMMMMMMMMMMEEEE!
    Like Mountian Dew extreme?

    Or Doritos extreme?

    Maybe Xyience CG3 extreme?
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    Originally Posted by AHTTG
    Like Mountian Dew extreme?

    Or Doritos extreme?

    Maybe Xyience CG3 extreme?
    Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle exteme.
    "I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street." - Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Originally Posted by $AJ
    'well, what if i cut my bench weight from 260 to 250.....will that be enough to let it heal?'
    rotf, i found that so funny

    had a back injury a while back, rested up, and started with some real light work tht didnt aggrevate or affect my back in any way (pullups, dips and so forth). finally got back to heavier lifting, my back feels so awesome, ive lost less strength than i thought i would. hurrah for proper resting!

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    We're not nearly as brilliant and awesome as you are $AJ. Back me up, DiamondDelts!

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    You're right $AJ, most people are idiots. But wouldn't i be right in saying that the people you rag on for being stupid are often doing things that you yourself did before you were properly educated?
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    Originally Posted by Big Ad
    case in point ----------------> http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=717824

    look at the third post, although i can't tell whether he's joking or not
    well if we cant tell, the guy with the injury can't tell, and terrible information is one of my biggest pet peeves so he earned a neg
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    Originally Posted by Sonic_Boom
    Anyway what the f*** did your little rant have to do exercises or a you allowed to post pointless dribble because your $AJ? GET A LIFE DICKHEAD
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    Originally Posted by Sonic_Boom
    GET A LIFE DICKHEAD
    Have fun in the red!
    "I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street." - Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Originally Posted by deserusan
    Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle exteme.
    That's pretty extreme dude.

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    Originally Posted by AHTTG
    That's pretty extreme dude.

    "I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street." - Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Originally Posted by Sonic_Boom
    Looks like one of $AJs exercise forum boyfriends is upset.
    My girlfriend may take offense to that.
    "I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street." - Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Looks like a Sonic Boom blew his post right out of the thread.
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    Originally Posted by deserusan
    Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle exteme.

    now THAT is ****in' extreme.
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    Originally Posted by $AJ
    You tell somebody they have a strained muscle that will lead to a severe tear in a few weeks if they keep pushing it instead of resting, and the usual response is 'well, what if i cut my bench weight from 260 to 250.....will that be enough to let it heal?'

    I swear, most people are morons.
    I think it is a condition commonly referred to as dumbicus-benchpressicus. Most people view any exercise as a potential mass building exercise and treat as such UNTIL it comes to the benchpress. Then they turn into pseudo power lifters. They get so obsessed with keeping up the numbers on that exercise no matter what that they forget it is a simple exercise like anything else. People are STUPID when it comes to that one movement.
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    Originally Posted by $AJ
    You tell somebody they have a strained muscle that will lead to a severe tear in a few weeks if they keep pushing it instead of resting, and the usual response is 'well, what if i cut my bench weight from 260 to 250.....will that be enough to let it heal?'

    I swear, most people are morons.
    who cares? if people wanna do things that are gonna cause them some damage, then they deserve the discomfort. if it doesnt affect you, then whats the problem?
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    Originally Posted by $AJ
    Why are people so stupid?

    Thats the million dollar question!!

    I surpose some people just need common sense beaten into them at birth!!

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    Thats the million dollar question!!

    I surpose some people just need common sense beaten into them at birth!!

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    Originally Posted by $AJ
    You tell somebody they have a strained muscle that will lead to a severe tear in a few weeks if they keep pushing it instead of resting, and the usual response is 'well, what if i cut my bench weight from 260 to 250.....will that be enough to let it heal?'

    I swear, most people are morons.
    Yeah, but you seem to take it to the other extreme. Sometimes I get the impression you workout, get hurt, take 6-8 weeks off, workout for a month, get hurt, take 6-8 weeks off. For a while there it was like every few weeks you were bitching about some injury. Did anyone start a thread up to flame you about that? I'm not riding your nuts here or deliberately giving you a hard time; I've just noticed you constantly overreact when it comes to injuries and tell people to skip training for at least 6 weeks. Tell them to see a doctor, sure, but WTF is with trying to diagnose their problems sight-unseen?

    IMO, it all comes down to the individual. We all have different thresholds of what we're willing to tolerate in order to reach our goals. And not everyone is cut out for it. Are you telling me I'm a moron for thinking that way? This isn't stamp collecting, we're throwing heavy weights around and occasional pain and injuries are always going to be a part of it. Look at all contact sports: who doesn't finish up around 30-35 with a bunch of injuries? So were they morons for taking up football or whatever? They're the risks, accept them or quit and play chess if you can't take it. I've never taken a week off for anything but a flu. Have I tweaked/strained/pulled muscles before? Yes. Did I ever take more than a few days off? No. Why? In every case the problem seemed manageable and I was right. You would have been on the phone to your doctor every time no doubt.

    In fact, just the other day I felt a strain around the rear delt warming up on presses and yes, I trained through it even though it bothered me and I had two people in my ear acting like experts saying "could be your ROTATOR CUFF" (repeat several times). Well guess what? I've trained twice since then, heavy, and not even the slightest twinge. If I'd listened to you I'd still be on the sidelines.

    Serious to me is a torn rotator cuff/biceps/pec/etc. or sharp, acute pain that simply will not go away and seems to be getting worse. Otherwise I'll train lightly or attempt to train around it. It's my body and I can do whatever I like. If I think it's serious I'll rest or see a doctor. Otherwise, I'll train. I've always wondered, have you ever done a physical job in your life, you know, where day in, day out, you're sore, your back hurts, your neck hurts, everything hurts, but you've got to pay the bills? You're always bragging about Porsches and stuff so probably not.
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    Serious to me is a torn rotator cuff/biceps/pec/etc. or sharp, acute pain that simply will not go away and seems to be getting worse. Otherwise I'll train lightly or attempt to train around it. It's my body and I can do whatever I like. If I think it's serious I'll rest or see a doctor. Otherwise, I'll train. I've always wondered, have you ever done a physical job in your life, you know, where day in, day out, you're sore, your back hurts, your neck hurts, everything hurts, but you've got to pay the bills? You're always bragging about Porsches and stuff so probably not.
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    Originally Posted by cRod
    lol
    This will sound strange after that rant, but I like AJ. He just bitches so much about injuries sometimes it's depressing. I'm not one of those guys going around telling people "train through pain, pain is good, pain is just weakness leaving the body," etc. When it comes to my body though, it's a different story. I can do whatever I like and shouldn't have to be told I'm a moron. Sure tell noobs to see a doctor but the stock "take 6-8 weeks off" advice just pisses me off and it has since I joined here
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    Originally Posted by DiamondDelts
    Ah yes. By the golden bat of knowledge!
    My PowerLifting journal!
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=139726173&p=781873953&posted=1#post781873953

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    Originally Posted by jayvee
    who cares? if people wanna do things that are gonna cause them some damage, then they deserve the discomfort. if it doesnt affect you, then whats the problem?

    because I get tired of reading what looks like a pack of retarded monkeys typing at a computer ^_^


    Originally Posted by _Dominik_
    Yeah, but you seem to take it to the other extreme. Sometimes I get the impression you workout, get hurt, take 6-8 weeks off, workout for a month, get hurt, take 6-8 weeks off. For a while there it was like every few weeks you were bitching about some injury. Did anyone start a thread up to flame you about that? I'm not riding your nuts here or deliberately giving you a hard time; I've just noticed you constantly overreact when it comes to injuries and tell people to skip training for at least 6 weeks. Tell them to see a doctor, sure, but WTF is with trying to diagnose their problems sight-unseen?

    IMO, it all comes down to the individual. We all have different thresholds of what we're willing to tolerate in order to reach our goals. And not everyone is cut out for it. Are you telling me I'm a moron for thinking that way? This isn't stamp collecting, we're throwing heavy weights around and occasional pain and injuries are always going to be a part of it. Look at all contact sports: who doesn't finish up around 30-35 with a bunch of injuries? So were they morons for taking up football or whatever? They're the risks, accept them or quit and play chess if you can't take it. I've never taken a week off for anything but a flu. Have I tweaked/strained/pulled muscles before? Yes. Did I ever take more than a few days off? No. Why? In every case the problem seemed manageable and I was right. You would have been on the phone to your doctor every time no doubt.

    In fact, just the other day I felt a strain around the rear delt warming up on presses and yes, I trained through it even though it bothered me and I had two people in my ear acting like experts saying "could be your ROTATOR CUFF" (repeat several times). Well guess what? I've trained twice since then, heavy, and not even the slightest twinge. If I'd listened to you I'd still be on the sidelines.

    Serious to me is a torn rotator cuff/biceps/pec/etc. or sharp, acute pain that simply will not go away and seems to be getting worse. Otherwise I'll train lightly or attempt to train around it. It's my body and I can do whatever I like. If I think it's serious I'll rest or see a doctor. Otherwise, I'll train. I've always wondered, have you ever done a physical job in your life, you know, where day in, day out, you're sore, your back hurts, your neck hurts, everything hurts, but you've got to pay the bills? You're always bragging about Porsches and stuff so probably not.
    well, it doesn't take a med. degree to diagnose a strained tendon

    besides, 3-8weeks off cures almost all ^_^
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    Originally Posted by _Dominik_
    Yeah, but you seem to take it to the other extreme. Sometimes I get the impression you workout, get hurt, take 6-8 weeks off, workout for a month, get hurt, take 6-8 weeks off. For a while there it was like every few weeks you were bitching about some injury. Did anyone start a thread up to flame you about that? I'm not riding your nuts here or deliberately giving you a hard time; I've just noticed you constantly overreact when it comes to injuries and tell people to skip training for at least 6 weeks. Tell them to see a doctor, sure, but WTF is with trying to diagnose their problems sight-unseen?

    IMO, it all comes down to the individual. We all have different thresholds of what we're willing to tolerate in order to reach our goals. And not everyone is cut out for it. Are you telling me I'm a moron for thinking that way? This isn't stamp collecting, we're throwing heavy weights around and occasional pain and injuries are always going to be a part of it. Look at all contact sports: who doesn't finish up around 30-35 with a bunch of injuries? So were they morons for taking up football or whatever? They're the risks, accept them or quit and play chess if you can't take it. I've never taken a week off for anything but a flu. Have I tweaked/strained/pulled muscles before? Yes. Did I ever take more than a few days off? No. Why? In every case the problem seemed manageable and I was right. You would have been on the phone to your doctor every time no doubt.

    In fact, just the other day I felt a strain around the rear delt warming up on presses and yes, I trained through it even though it bothered me and I had two people in my ear acting like experts saying "could be your ROTATOR CUFF" (repeat several times). Well guess what? I've trained twice since then, heavy, and not even the slightest twinge. If I'd listened to you I'd still be on the sidelines.

    Serious to me is a torn rotator cuff/biceps/pec/etc. or sharp, acute pain that simply will not go away and seems to be getting worse. Otherwise I'll train lightly or attempt to train around it. It's my body and I can do whatever I like. If I think it's serious I'll rest or see a doctor. Otherwise, I'll train. I've always wondered, have you ever done a physical job in your life, you know, where day in, day out, you're sore, your back hurts, your neck hurts, everything hurts, but you've got to pay the bills? You're always bragging about Porsches and stuff so probably not.
    Damn! I have never seen the big man from down under this worked up before.
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    Originally Posted by DiamondDelts
    Damn! I have never seen the big man from down under this worked up before.
    i got bored 1/2way through his post ^_^
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    Plus, consider that opinions and reactions to injury of teenagers partly comes from the fact that their bodies are made of self-healing rubber that repairs itself in 2 days and then begs for more fun and excitement. It takes the experience of lingering injury to make them be more cautious. They haven't had that yet, therefore it seems like someone else's problem.
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